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DSJ · 6 August 2008, 06:47 AM

This thread:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=47879
needs a poll, so I'm starting it!

Will the Oysterquartz (or a modern equivalent like the Seiko Spring Drive) return to the Rolex lineup in the next 20 years?

BigHat · 6 August 2008, 06:50 AM

Gonna include a place to vote?

If not --- hmmm, 20 years is a long time. I vote yes, to some type of advancement that involves moving electrons.

DSJ · 6 August 2008, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigHat

Gonna include a place to vote?

If not --- hmmm, 20 years is a long time. I vote yes, to some type of advancement that involves moving electrons.

I was working on it! I didn't realize that the thread posts before I complete the poll.

Steven79 · 6 August 2008, 07:21 AM

I would never spend more than $300 bucks on a quartz watch. so with that being said, if Rolex created a quartz watch for $300 sure I'd buy one. But hey, we all know thats not going to happen.

I hate quartz.

SLS · 6 August 2008, 07:24 AM

I never cared for the look of the OQ, and with the high service costs every couple of years, forget it!
~Scott

Tony-GB · 6 August 2008, 07:26 AM

I kinda like the idea of a quartz Rolex. Like having a girlfriend that does things the wife doesn't do.

Nice and sleazy....... yum

SLS · 6 August 2008, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

I kinda like the idea of a quartz Rolex. Like having a girlfriend that does things the wife doesn't do.

Nice and sleazy....... yum

OK...well, yeah, I want one, when you put it that way

~Scott

subman999 · 6 August 2008, 08:49 AM

A quartz watch costs about 50 cents to produce, I wouldnt pay 25 cents for one!

Jimbits76 · 6 August 2008, 11:18 AM

I voted yay but nay.

Then again....never say never!

J

tylertx · 6 August 2008, 12:35 PM

The thing about the original oysterquartz was that it was very advanced for its time, even for a quartz watch. It had a very nicely finished movement and was super accurate. If you ever see pictures of the oysterquartz movement, it's quite impressive. So, if Rolex brought out an Oysterquartz II, it would have to be equally nicely finished and be advanced compared to today's quartz watches. If they could make something like that, and the price was good, then i'd be interested.

mickeydainish · 6 August 2008, 01:04 PM

You have a interesting way to put these things into perspective, Tony... count me in....... =:-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

I kinda like the idea of a quartz Rolex. Like having a girlfriend that does things the wife doesn't do.

Nice and sleazy....... yum

folexhater · 6 August 2008, 01:14 PM

Sure why not, after all, it's still a Rolex!

topcat30093 · 6 August 2008, 03:36 PM

IMO I hope not.

BigHat · 6 August 2008, 11:08 PM

Holy crap. Over half of the watch nuts would get one if they were made. Really surprising. Any questions if they'd sell to the masses now?

Trurolexer · 6 August 2008, 11:27 PM

The only Rolex I never buy is OysterQuartz...So sorry...

mikey · 6 August 2008, 11:47 PM

Forget a Oysterquartz 2. I would rather own a Vintage Oysterquartz with its unique case/bracelet design and must I say this thread is worthless without pics!

Perdu · 7 August 2008, 04:12 AM

I would have one. It's a myth that all quartz watches are created equal.

arttay10 · 7 August 2008, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

I kinda like the idea of a quartz Rolex. Like having a girlfriend that does things the wife doesn't do.

Nice and sleazy....... yum

Put me me down for one of those !!!

Spare201 · 19 September 2008, 07:20 AM

Oysterquartz is not JUST a quartz watch. I invite somone on here to photo the movement in a oysterquartz and and a celini quartz. just so ppl not in the know can see what they are talking about. The oyster quartz is more like a mechanical watch with a electronic escapement at the end of the going train. We are talking about a quartz watch that was thermocompensating BEFORE breitling ever even conceived the idea of making superquartz watches. (mid nineties)

We are talking about a watch that takes joy in the fact that is a quartz manufactured by rolex, in an oyster case. A case that is the most radical departuresfrom the typical oyster case and bracelet architecture. Not only was this case specifically made to distinguish the fact that it possesed the ONLY accoustic shaped case that rolex ever has produced to emphasize the sound of it ticking.

In my opinion the oysterquartz is really a step beyond anything produced with a battery. My reason for saying this? In a conventional Quartz movement with a center sweep hand there is a part inside of it called a stator the stator is attached to a pinion which the second hand is mounted to. The impulse to the stator makes the watch tick. In a oysterquartz, it still has a stator but the stator is arranged @ a 90 degree to the pallet and that pallet interfaces with a modified escape wheel. Also a traditional quartz utilises a Choke of sorts to regulate to advance or retard the rate. The Oyster quartz's regulating device more closely resembles a Reostat, essentially a like a gain on an amplifier

Quicksilver · 19 September 2008, 07:35 AM

I was of the opinion that Rolex should not sully their hands again with quartz. However, Spare's post has realy intrigued me. I like the idea of a watch case designed to accousticaly enhanced the sound of the tick ! Maybe we should give it a chance.

Don't think it will happen though.

Jocke · 19 September 2008, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey

Forget a Oysterquartz 2. I would rather own a Vintage Oysterquartz with its unique case/bracelet design and must I say this thread is worthless without pics!

Why not, they are cheap and unique.

Here you can see a OysterQuartz who I found in some bad
condition. He needs some kind of refreshment and here I
will show you how nice he could be.

Here is how he looks and he have a hard life behind him.

To fix him I have to get some 800 waterproof sandpaper
and I will go slowly on him with the sandpaper. I have
to go on the bracelet in one way so the lines will be
straight ahead agains the bracelet. Start from the back
and go nice and easy and very slow. You will see if you
go to fast it´s easy to get some crossed lines. When I´m
finish with that I use a sandpaper sponge who look like this.

I bought the sponge in a auto spareparts shop and it´s soft
so it will follow the bracelet. Here is the result.

After that I will use a Dremel machine with some polishing
trundles and some polish compound/wax to get the high polished
surfaces shine like a mirror.

Maybe we should take a look inside too?

Rolex cal 5035

All the parts ready to be putted together.

Then I put a new crown and tube and the final result
looks like this.

It ticks once every seconds, so many believe it´s a fake.

I hope you enjoy the tour.

Jocke

swatty · 19 September 2008, 07:57 AM

Great tour , thanks Jocke

DSJ · 19 September 2008, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spare201

Oysterquartz is not JUST a quartz watch. I invite somone on here to photo the movement in a oysterquartz and and a celini quartz. just so ppl not in the know can see what they are talking about. The oyster quartz is more like a mechanical watch with a electronic escapement at the end of the going train. We are talking about a quartz watch that was thermocompensating BEFORE breitling ever even conceived the idea of making superquartz watches. (mid nineties)

We are talking about a watch that takes joy in the fact that is a quartz manufactured by rolex, in an oyster case. A case that is the most radical departuresfrom the typical oyster case and bracelet architecture. Not only was this case specifically made to distinguish the fact that it possesed the ONLY accoustic shaped case that rolex ever has produced to emphasize the sound of it ticking.

In my opinion the oysterquartz is really a step beyond anything produced with a battery. My reason for saying this? In a conventional Quartz movement with a center sweep hand there is a part inside of it called a stator the stator is attached to a pinion which the second hand is mounted to. The impulse to the stator makes the watch tick. In a oysterquartz, it still has a stator but the stator is arranged @ a 90 degree to the pallet and that pallet interfaces with a modified escape wheel. Also a traditional quartz utilises a Choke of sorts to regulate to advance or retard the rate. The Oyster quartz's regulating device more closely resembles a Reostat, essentially a like a gain on an amplifier

GREAT post! I'm starting to get the hankering for an OQ again!

Spare201 · 19 September 2008, 09:29 AM

Thanks for the illustrations, Jocke. I hope you and I have given some of the members a deeper understanding of the OQ. BTW are you a watchmaker for a AD, or a afficionado with some skill? It is always cool to meet another Watchmaker, trained or untrained, on the forums.

Jason Spring · 19 September 2008, 10:04 AM

Rolex has deposed Rolex oysterquartz brevet in the 1990's, so, yes I think one day they will make an other oysterquartz.

Chris in Melbourne · 19 September 2008, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spare201

Oysterquartz is not JUST a quartz watch. I invite somone on here to photo the movement in a oysterquartz and and a celini quartz. just so ppl not in the know can see what they are talking about. The oyster quartz is more like a mechanical watch with a electronic escapement at the end of the going train. We are talking about a quartz watch that was thermocompensating BEFORE breitling ever even conceived the idea of making superquartz watches. (mid nineties)

We are talking about a watch that takes joy in the fact that is a quartz manufactured by rolex, in an oyster case. A case that is the most radical departuresfrom the typical oyster case and bracelet architecture. Not only was this case specifically made to distinguish the fact that it possesed the ONLY accoustic shaped case that rolex ever has produced to emphasize the sound of it ticking.

In my opinion the oysterquartz is really a step beyond anything produced with a battery. My reason for saying this? In a conventional Quartz movement with a center sweep hand there is a part inside of it called a stator the stator is attached to a pinion which the second hand is mounted to. The impulse to the stator makes the watch tick. In a oysterquartz, it still has a stator but the stator is arranged @ a 90 degree to the pallet and that pallet interfaces with a modified escape wheel. Also a traditional quartz utilises a Choke of sorts to regulate to advance or retard the rate. The Oyster quartz's regulating device more closely resembles a Reostat, essentially a like a gain on an amplifier

Reading this thread I am stunned at the ignorance and snobbery displayed by those lambasting the Oysterquartz.

After doing some homework on the Oysterquartz I recently purchased a Ref 17000 and love it!

I was already fortunate to own a SS Daytona, ND Sub, Pepsi GMT Master, Explorer and Milgauss and the Oysterquartz was a perfect addition to my small collection.

Frankly, I am stunned by those comparing the Oysterquartz movement to other quartz movements. The 5035 movement is a masterpiece!

Did you know that when the Oysterquartz was first released it sold for more than a Date Sub, GMT Master or even a Daytona!

My take on the Oysterquartz is if you can find a nice 17000, grab it!

Oh, and as for the expensive servicing every 2 years - that's rubbish! A battery change is all that is needed every 2.5 years and regular service every 5-7 years.

Hey, I've got my Oysterquartz so I'm happy!

Kind regards

Chris in Melbourne

BigHat · 19 September 2008, 11:24 PM

When these were first released I REALLY wanted one but couldn't justify the expense. They were sold in the military exchange system then. A friend bought one and I had to stare at it nearly every day. We were all dummies about watches. The Subs that others bought with the acrylic crystals badly needed to be regulated but who knew about that (LOL) and we were stuck in Okinawa anyway. Sadly, that's what turned me off to Rolex and lead to 10 years of fine watch buying while ignoring Rolex completely.

Jocke,
AGAIN, awesome pics and great work on that watch. it was like taking a trip back to the mid-80s.

View Poll Results: Will the Oysterquartz Return?
Yes, and I'll likely get one!	4	9.52%
Yes, and I might get one.	11	26.19%
Yes, but I'd only get one if they made a Professional	0	0%
Yes, but I'd never get one.	4	9.52%
No, Oysterquartz is gone forever, I hope I get one someday!	4	9.52%
No, Oysterquartz is gone forever, I'll never get one.	18	42.86%
What's an Oysterquartz?	1	2.38%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

6 August 2008, 06:47 AM	#1
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	Will the Oysterquartz return? This thread: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=47879 needs a poll, so I'm starting it! Will the Oysterquartz (or a modern equivalent like the Seiko Spring Drive) return to the Rolex lineup in the next 20 years? __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

6 August 2008, 07:26 AM	#6
Tony-GB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Oxfordshire, UK Watch: 116680 & 116622 Posts: 3,953	I kinda like the idea of a quartz Rolex. Like having a girlfriend that does things the wife doesn't do. Nice and sleazy....... yum __________________ "...why oh why, didn't I take the blue pill...?" http://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/ www.cheetah.org

6 August 2008, 03:36 PM	#13
topcat30093 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: England Posts: 5,460	IMO I hope not. __________________

7 August 2008, 04:12 AM	#17
Perdu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Gary Location: GMT-6 Watch: GMT Posts: 3,350	I would have one. It's a myth that all quartz watches are created equal. __________________ Omega Seamaster 300M GMT Noire Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 8500 Benson 1937 Sterling Silver Hunter

6 August 2008, 06:50 AM	#2
BigHat Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Matt Location: Arlington, VA Watch: Lange One MP Posts: 4,043	Gonna include a place to vote? If not --- hmmm, 20 years is a long time. I vote yes, to some type of advancement that involves moving electrons.

6 August 2008, 07:21 AM	#4
Steven79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Steven Location: Houston Watch: Sub Posts: 1,175	I would never spend more than $300 bucks on a quartz watch. so with that being said, if Rolex created a quartz watch for $300 sure I'd buy one. But hey, we all know thats not going to happen. I hate quartz.

6 August 2008, 07:24 AM	#5
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	I never cared for the look of the OQ, and with the high service costs every couple of years, forget it! ~Scott

6 August 2008, 08:49 AM	#8
subman999 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: UK Posts: 28	A quartz watch costs about 50 cents to produce, I wouldnt pay 25 cents for one!

6 August 2008, 11:18 AM	#9
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	I voted yay but nay. Then again....never say never! J

6 August 2008, 12:35 PM	#10
tylertx "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 9	The thing about the original oysterquartz was that it was very advanced for its time, even for a quartz watch. It had a very nicely finished movement and was super accurate. If you ever see pictures of the oysterquartz movement, it's quite impressive. So, if Rolex brought out an Oysterquartz II, it would have to be equally nicely finished and be advanced compared to today's quartz watches. If they could make something like that, and the price was good, then i'd be interested.

6 August 2008, 01:14 PM	#12
folexhater Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: kel Location: Los Angeles Posts: 481	Sure why not, after all, it's still a Rolex!

6 August 2008, 11:08 PM	#14
BigHat Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Matt Location: Arlington, VA Watch: Lange One MP Posts: 4,043	Holy crap. Over half of the watch nuts would get one if they were made. Really surprising. Any questions if they'd sell to the masses now?

6 August 2008, 11:27 PM	#15
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	The only Rolex I never buy is OysterQuartz...So sorry...

6 August 2008, 11:47 PM	#16
mikey "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA Watch: Oysterdate 6694 Posts: 2,713	Forget a Oysterquartz 2. I would rather own a Vintage Oysterquartz with its unique case/bracelet design and must I say this thread is worthless without pics!

19 September 2008, 07:20 AM	#19
Spare201 Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Spare201 Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1970 Day-Date Posts: 197	Oysterquartz is not JUST a quartz watch. I invite somone on here to photo the movement in a oysterquartz and and a celini quartz. just so ppl not in the know can see what they are talking about. The oyster quartz is more like a mechanical watch with a electronic escapement at the end of the going train. We are talking about a quartz watch that was thermocompensating BEFORE breitling ever even conceived the idea of making superquartz watches. (mid nineties) We are talking about a watch that takes joy in the fact that is a quartz manufactured by rolex, in an oyster case. A case that is the most radical departuresfrom the typical oyster case and bracelet architecture. Not only was this case specifically made to distinguish the fact that it possesed the ONLY accoustic shaped case that rolex ever has produced to emphasize the sound of it ticking. In my opinion the oysterquartz is really a step beyond anything produced with a battery. My reason for saying this? In a conventional Quartz movement with a center sweep hand there is a part inside of it called a stator the stator is attached to a pinion which the second hand is mounted to. The impulse to the stator makes the watch tick. In a oysterquartz, it still has a stator but the stator is arranged @ a 90 degree to the pallet and that pallet interfaces with a modified escape wheel. Also a traditional quartz utilises a Choke of sorts to regulate to advance or retard the rate. The Oyster quartz's regulating device more closely resembles a Reostat, essentially a like a gain on an amplifier Last edited by Spare201; 19 September 2008 at 07:35 AM.. Reason: spelling grammar

19 September 2008, 07:35 AM	#20
Quicksilver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: David Location: London+Guangzhou Watch: ing watches Posts: 2,603	I was of the opinion that Rolex should not sully their hands again with quartz. However, Spare's post has realy intrigued me. I like the idea of a watch case designed to accousticaly enhanced the sound of the tick ! Maybe we should give it a chance. Don't think it will happen though.

19 September 2008, 07:57 AM	#22
swatty 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,415	Great tour , thanks Jocke

19 September 2008, 09:29 AM	#24
Spare201 Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Spare201 Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1970 Day-Date Posts: 197	Thanks for the illustrations, Jocke. I hope you and I have given some of the members a deeper understanding of the OQ. BTW are you a watchmaker for a AD, or a afficionado with some skill? It is always cool to meet another Watchmaker, trained or untrained, on the forums.

19 September 2008, 10:04 AM	#25
Jason Spring "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: France Posts: 300	Rolex has deposed Rolex oysterquartz brevet in the 1990's, so, yes I think one day they will make an other oysterquartz. __________________ visit my blog : http://watchparabellum.blogspot.com/ Enjoy your visit !!!!!!! -- WTB:Rolex Submariner ref 5513 --

19 September 2008, 11:24 PM	#27
BigHat Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Matt Location: Arlington, VA Watch: Lange One MP Posts: 4,043	When these were first released I REALLY wanted one but couldn't justify the expense. They were sold in the military exchange system then. A friend bought one and I had to stare at it nearly every day. We were all dummies about watches. The Subs that others bought with the acrylic crystals badly needed to be regulated but who knew about that (LOL) and we were stuck in Okinawa anyway. Sadly, that's what turned me off to Rolex and lead to 10 years of fine watch buying while ignoring Rolex completely. Jocke, AGAIN, awesome pics and great work on that watch. it was like taking a trip back to the mid-80s.

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