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harry in montreal · 8 July 2016, 09:02 AM

This is a pretty sad sight. Only Leonardo with a laser welder could restore this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Awesome-Vint...MAAOSwhOVXfTa7

dysondiver · 8 July 2016, 09:07 AM

looks like two drill bits beaten in and snapped off ,,, good grief

AS1 · 8 July 2016, 09:12 AM

whoa!!

iliketime · 8 July 2016, 09:19 AM

:( pass

Yousefsl · 8 July 2016, 10:12 AM

It's hard to look at

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watchgroupcorp · 8 July 2016, 10:16 AM

Something tells me that those lugs resulted when somebody got a great idea to customize his watch -- after he had just polished off an entire case of cold ones. I'm actually interested in acquiring that watch. #addedtowatchlist I can fix it up nicely. #greatdeal?

jban5 · 8 July 2016, 10:24 AM

I would get little joy from finding that even for nearly nothing at the flea or a yard sale, except it does look like it has a decent dial, the movement is clean, the back is usable so, as a donor

J!m · 8 July 2016, 10:35 AM

Give the case to Michael Young for a few months and see what happens...

drifter01 · 8 July 2016, 10:39 AM

How can he state: "Case condition: Overall excellent condition," ??

77T · 8 July 2016, 11:02 AM

Seller less than trusted describer of condition methinks

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linesiders · 8 July 2016, 11:17 AM

Well...

springer · 8 July 2016, 11:28 AM

From an auction by Jeff Hess...very sad to see, especially after reading the description by Georgia. To call this watch awesome is definitely not what I am seeing.

Described by: Georgia TLSS
Title: Awesome Vintage Rolex Oyster Tudor Prince Gilt Dial Running Submariner 2 Restore
Description: Offering for your consideration a classic genuine Awesome Vintage Rolex Oyster Tudor Prince Gilt Dial Running Submariner 2 Restore. The dial is extraordinary with gilt hah markers. Mild fading on dial. Bezel has heavy fading. Good luck to all bidders.
Serial number: 624237
Reference #: 7528/ 701670?
Caliber # n/a
Manufacturer: Rolex
Circa: 1968

jban5 · 8 July 2016, 02:46 PM

Maybe it is a joke

forgedblades · 8 July 2016, 02:49 PM

probably involved in some sort of accident

Kiaraff · 8 July 2016, 05:27 PM

I say, military spcg!

freefly · 8 July 2016, 06:59 PM

Wow, those drill-bit "spring bars" are just....

I also don't think I've ever seen a winding crown mangled quite to that extent, ever...

I am sure it will be frankened with a fake case, crown, and braclelet and back up on eBay in no time, lol...

acf321 · 8 July 2016, 07:17 PM

Sorry, but YUK. Looks like it's been mauled by a pack of dogs.

fizz · 8 July 2016, 09:11 PM

That looks like it was worn by a bomb disposal expert during the Vietnam war.

mapalfa · 8 July 2016, 09:46 PM

It's on my watch list.

The lugs are screwed, but if those drill bits can be removed without doing further damage then a fixed bars conversion, done by interference fitting some decent SS bar then carefully trimming, would make things look a whole lot better. My biggest worry is the concave damage to the upper edge of the lugs isn't leaving much room for maneuver if the drill bits need to be machined out.

Crystal can be polished. Bezel insert looks amazing. CGs are OK. Back isn't as bad as some I've seen. Movement looks tidy and seems to be running. Crown is easy to replace, as is the tube and stem.

Worst case [pun intended] scenario, as said above, it's got some decent donor parts.

davidpg · 8 July 2016, 11:34 PM

I'd wear that thing daily as is (except for the crown...would install a vintage one). I think it's awesome.

offrdmania · 9 July 2016, 12:41 AM

Walk into a watch show with that thing on as-is. I bet it would draw a crowd for sure

Cryten · 9 July 2016, 01:40 AM

One careful lady owner?

Rybour · 9 July 2016, 01:45 AM

only worn on Sundays to church ...
Lord save this watch.

jban5 · 9 July 2016, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offrdmania

Walk into a watch show with that thing on as-is. I bet it would draw a crowd for sure

A totaled car on the freeway also draws a crowd (of eyes at least) but I wouldn't want to be the owner.

crowncollection · 9 July 2016, 08:34 AM

Horrible

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springer · 9 July 2016, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drifter01

How can he state: "Case condition: Overall excellent condition," ??

He has several threads in the watchout section about some of his other auctions. Some of his responses were quite unbelievable - but true.

adam78 · 10 July 2016, 12:03 AM

A parts watch for sure. Sad, because he has been a respected expert, and years ago I bought my awesome gilt 1016 from him, as well as a super original 2940. I suspect he offers little oversight of his staff, which is criminal.

lhanddds · 10 July 2016, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

He has several threads in the watchout section about some of his other auctions. Some of his responses were quite unbelievable - but true.

They tend to over embelish.

Hpozzuoli · 10 July 2016, 12:28 AM

Hess bills themselves as fine auctioneers. I would never consider anything about that watch desirable. It is in give away condition. Sometimes I pass on cars because they just can't be saved or will simply cost too much vs what they will be worth.

shawnmarz · 13 July 2016, 03:52 AM

Welp, I'm currently the highest bidder.
This will be a fun project to post on the forums.

8 July 2016, 09:02 AM	#1
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	Someone did a number on these lugs This is a pretty sad sight. Only Leonardo with a laser welder could restore this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Awesome-Vint...MAAOSwhOVXfTa7

8 July 2016, 10:39 AM	#9
drifter01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NC Watch: 5500 Air-King Posts: 633	How can he state: "Case condition: Overall excellent condition," ?? __________________ Dave Ace of Clubs "Never mind the track. The track is for punks. We are Road People. We are Cafe Racers." - Hunter S. Thompson

8 July 2016, 11:02 AM	#10
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,016	Seller less than trusted describer of condition methinks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

8 July 2016, 11:17 AM	#11
linesiders 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,503	Well... Attached Images __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

8 July 2016, 11:28 AM	#12
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	From an auction by Jeff Hess...very sad to see, especially after reading the description by Georgia. To call this watch awesome is definitely not what I am seeing. Described by: Georgia TLSS Title: Awesome Vintage Rolex Oyster Tudor Prince Gilt Dial Running Submariner 2 Restore Description: Offering for your consideration a classic genuine Awesome Vintage Rolex Oyster Tudor Prince Gilt Dial Running Submariner 2 Restore. The dial is extraordinary with gilt hah markers. Mild fading on dial. Bezel has heavy fading. Good luck to all bidders. Serial number: 624237 Reference #: 7528/ 701670? Caliber # n/a Manufacturer: Rolex Circa: 1968 Attached Images __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

8 July 2016, 09:07 AM	#2
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	looks like two drill bits beaten in and snapped off ,,, good grief

8 July 2016, 09:12 AM	#3
AS1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NYC / Milan Watch: 6263 Posts: 3,938	whoa!!

8 July 2016, 09:19 AM	#4
iliketime "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Jack Location: NYC Watch: 16570, 16710 Posts: 1,535	:( pass

8 July 2016, 10:12 AM	#5
Yousefsl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: UK Posts: 300	It's hard to look at Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

8 July 2016, 10:16 AM	#6
watchgroupcorp Banned Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Tim Strong Location: Thornton, CO USA Watch: Rolex 1665 DRSD Posts: 102	Something tells me that those lugs resulted when somebody got a great idea to customize his watch -- after he had just polished off an entire case of cold ones. I'm actually interested in acquiring that watch. #addedtowatchlist I can fix it up nicely. #greatdeal?

8 July 2016, 10:24 AM	#7
jban5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Watch: 5513~1675x2~1680~ Posts: 523	I would get little joy from finding that even for nearly nothing at the flea or a yard sale, except it does look like it has a decent dial, the movement is clean, the back is usable so, as a donor

8 July 2016, 10:35 AM	#8
J!m "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Jim Location: Connecticut Watch: this! Hold my beer Posts: 2,839	Give the case to Michael Young for a few months and see what happens...

8 July 2016, 02:46 PM	#13
jban5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Watch: 5513~1675x2~1680~ Posts: 523	Maybe it is a joke

8 July 2016, 02:49 PM	#14
forgedblades "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: Dave Location: Memphis Watch: 16610LV/CokeGMT II Posts: 396	probably involved in some sort of accident

8 July 2016, 05:27 PM	#15
Kiaraff "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 116	I say, military spcg!

8 July 2016, 06:59 PM	#16
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	Wow, those drill-bit "spring bars" are just.... I also don't think I've ever seen a winding crown mangled quite to that extent, ever... I am sure it will be frankened with a fake case, crown, and braclelet and back up on eBay in no time, lol...

8 July 2016, 07:17 PM	#17
acf321 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Adam Location: Sydney Watch: 14270 /16610 Posts: 142	Sorry, but YUK. Looks like it's been mauled by a pack of dogs.

8 July 2016, 09:11 PM	#18
fizz "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: UAE Posts: 384	That looks like it was worn by a bomb disposal expert during the Vietnam war.

8 July 2016, 09:46 PM	#19
mapalfa "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Robin Location: West Wales Watch: ing the grass grow Posts: 571	It's on my watch list. The lugs are screwed, but if those drill bits can be removed without doing further damage then a fixed bars conversion, done by interference fitting some decent SS bar then *carefully* trimming, would make things look a whole lot better. My biggest worry is the concave damage to the upper edge of the lugs isn't leaving much room for maneuver if the drill bits need to be machined out. Crystal can be polished. Bezel insert looks amazing. CGs are OK. Back isn't as bad as some I've seen. Movement looks tidy and seems to be running. Crown is easy to replace, as is the tube and stem. Worst case [pun intended] scenario, as said above, it's got some decent donor parts.

8 July 2016, 11:34 PM	#20
davidpg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Montreal Posts: 9	I'd wear that thing daily as is (except for the crown...would install a vintage one). I think it's awesome.

9 July 2016, 12:41 AM	#21
offrdmania 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,998	Walk into a watch show with that thing on as-is. I bet it would draw a crowd for sure __________________ TRF Member 11738

9 July 2016, 01:40 AM	#22
Cryten "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Terrafirma Posts: 2,655	One careful lady owner?

9 July 2016, 01:45 AM	#23
Rybour "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 125	only worn on Sundays to church ... Lord save this watch.

9 July 2016, 08:34 AM	#25
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Horrible Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

10 July 2016, 12:03 AM	#27
adam78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,830	A parts watch for sure. Sad, because he has been a respected expert, and years ago I bought my awesome gilt 1016 from him, as well as a super original 2940. I suspect he offers little oversight of his staff, which is criminal. __________________ Cheers, Adam

10 July 2016, 12:28 AM	#29
Hpozzuoli Banned Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Henry Location: Rhode Island Watch: Rolex Posts: 990	Hess bills themselves as fine auctioneers. I would never consider anything about that watch desirable. It is in give away condition. Sometimes I pass on cars because they just can't be saved or will simply cost too much vs what they will be worth.

13 July 2016, 03:52 AM	#30
shawnmarz 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Shawn Location: Los Angeles Posts: 321	Welp, I'm currently the highest bidder. This will be a fun project to post on the forums. __________________ Instagram: @shawnitoh

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