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porsche911 · 14 August 2008, 04:43 AM

I just purchased a Submariner from a friend that needed the money. First thing you notice is no cyclops!! I read that Rolex put them on most all Date models but a few Subs didn't have the cyclops. Anyone here have any other explaination. Maybe previous owner had glass replaced.
It's a 16800 83500XX which makes it an 84 I believe. Thanks for your help. Newbie here and I like this forum already. It's as good as my Pcar forum, lots of knowledge and good people to help. Here I'll try to upload a photo, not good a close-ups.

Rockrolex · 14 August 2008, 04:59 AM

Welcome to TRF. Some people remove the cyclops for whatever reason I'm not sure. Maybe they don't want a heavier SD.

porsche911 · 14 August 2008, 05:06 AM

Sorry about the double post. didn't see the first one come up. Thanks I find this forum with quality, knowledgable people that makes a big difference in where I play on line. I've learned a lot in the last few days.

stevemulholland3 · 14 August 2008, 07:35 AM

the 16800 is fast becoming the next hot collectable-as it is still in the price range of the mid level collector-yours is a latter model with the minuet markers encased in white gold.
the earlier most desirable of the 16800's are the ones with the matte dial with-out surrounds-but your is still very nice.
I dont believe that rolex ever put out a sub without the magnification bubble-it must have been removed.
hope I helped.
steve

veefour · 14 August 2008, 11:34 AM

Wellcome to TRF!. Dial on your watch may be a service one as 8.3mill. should have a matte one.

stevemulholland3 · 14 August 2008, 12:38 PM

I have seen both dial styles in that serial range,purportedly they switched to only the late dial style between 8,4 and 8,6(from what I have been told)

mickeydainish · 14 August 2008, 12:54 PM

I dunno... but that is a super looking sub. Congrats...!! :-)

Mrdi · 14 August 2008, 12:58 PM

So which P car forum do you frequent?

No Cyclops is like after market wheels on the 911

Porsche · 14 August 2008, 01:20 PM

Off Topic, sorry to barge in, but...

Hi there "Porsche 911" and welcome from another noobie, the ORIGINAL Porsche... methinks there will now be some confusion... these WIS guys may not be too savvy with the differences between a 1986 model and a 1990 model! Hey you WIS's, mines the white one, his is the grey one! (I may have to change my avatar... ha ha)

Anyway, congrats on the watch (and the car too). Is it the same vintage as the P-car? Was that a special year for you?

Regards, John (the original Porsche)

PS. Guess I'll have to change my name and avatar anyway when I buy that Ferrari!!!

PPS. Think I'm going to go "green" and become a Pledge member - this has prompted me to throw my money in the hat and stop bludging, this site is well worth a few $. Steve, I'll PM you once I have Paypal'ed. Check back in a while guys and I should have a green name, Cheers....

GMTJOHNNY · 14 August 2008, 01:26 PM

All this P-Car stuff is too much not to reply!
Nice watch- Take it in to RSC for a service and have them refinish it and put a new crystal in if you wan it. Sure is a nice piece.
Sure would be cool to see a cyclops on the dash clock - especially in the new model 911's.

porsche911 · 14 August 2008, 11:09 PM

My p-car is an 87 Granite Green Metallic, matching leather interior. I like the no cyclops look and had read somewhere that Rolex did indeed not have on all models. It's also a sapphire which is nice. My other watch is a Tag 4000 model. There is some character to this watch with a few marks on the side of it. Maybe that's when he had the crystal replaced. Thanks for the info guys. No need to change avatars I like any p-car.

ps. Rennlist is my second home.

14 August 2008, 04:43 AM	#1
porsche911 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Leonard Location: stockbridge,ga Watch: Submariner Posts: 58	Rare or Not? I just purchased a Submariner from a friend that needed the money. First thing you notice is no cyclops!! I read that Rolex put them on most all Date models but a few Subs didn't have the cyclops. Anyone here have any other explaination. Maybe previous owner had glass replaced. It's a 16800 83500XX which makes it an 84 I believe. Thanks for your help. Newbie here and I like this forum already. It's as good as my Pcar forum, lots of knowledge and good people to help. Here I'll try to upload a photo, not good a close-ups. Attached Images

14 August 2008, 04:59 AM	#2
Rockrolex TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: God Location: Washington, D.C. Watch: What do you think? Posts: 37,967	Welcome to TRF. Some people remove the cyclops for whatever reason I'm not sure. Maybe they don't want a heavier SD. __________________ Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular. *Tosser Cabinet Member* Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

14 August 2008, 11:34 AM	#5
veefour "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canary Islands Posts: 520	Wellcome to TRF!. Dial on your watch may be a service one as 8.3mill. should have a matte one. __________________ 16800 Matt (1986) Avatar pic by Jocke

14 August 2008, 01:20 PM	#9
Porsche 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: John Location: ɹǝpun Watch: and learn Posts: 2,986	Hey, that's me not you! Off Topic, sorry to barge in, but... Hi there "Porsche 911" and welcome from another noobie, the ORIGINAL Porsche... methinks there will now be some confusion... these WIS guys may not be too savvy with the differences between a 1986 model and a 1990 model! Hey you WIS's, mines the white one, his is the grey one! (I may have to change my avatar... ha ha) Anyway, congrats on the watch (and the car too). Is it the same vintage as the P-car? Was that a special year for you? Regards, John (the original Porsche) PS. Guess I'll have to change my name and avatar anyway when I buy that Ferrari!!! PPS. Think I'm going to go "green" and become a Pledge member - this has prompted me to throw my money in the hat and stop bludging, this site is well worth a few $. Steve, I'll PM you once I have Paypal'ed. Check back in a while guys and I should have a green name, Cheers.... __________________ Obey Gravity, it's the Law! ROLEX --- SEIKO --- HEUER TRF REHAUT T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M Last edited by Porsche; 14 August 2008 at 01:25 PM.. Reason: typos and more comments!

14 August 2008, 01:26 PM	#10
GMTJOHNNY "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: LONG ISLAND, NY Watch: 2007 DAY DATE 18KT Posts: 1,378	All this P-Car stuff is too much not to reply! Nice watch- Take it in to RSC for a service and have them refinish it and put a new crystal in if you wan it. Sure is a nice piece. Sure would be cool to see a cyclops on the dash clock - especially in the new model 911's. __________________ ROLEX DAY DATE 118238 (2007) ROLEX DAY DATE 18238 (1997) ROLEX GMT 16750 PEPSI (1987) ROLEX AIR KING 14000 (1991) ROLEX GMTIIC TT 116713LN (2008)

14 August 2008, 05:06 AM	#3
porsche911 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Leonard Location: stockbridge,ga Watch: Submariner Posts: 58	Sorry about the double post. didn't see the first one come up. Thanks I find this forum with quality, knowledgable people that makes a big difference in where I play on line. I've learned a lot in the last few days.

14 August 2008, 07:35 AM	#4
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	the 16800 is fast becoming the next hot collectable-as it is still in the price range of the mid level collector-yours is a latter model with the minuet markers encased in white gold. the earlier most desirable of the 16800's are the ones with the matte dial with-out surrounds-but your is still very nice. I dont believe that rolex ever put out a sub without the magnification bubble-it must have been removed. hope I helped. steve

14 August 2008, 12:38 PM	#6
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	I have seen both dial styles in that serial range,purportedly they switched to only the late dial style between 8,4 and 8,6(from what I have been told)

14 August 2008, 12:54 PM	#7
mickeydainish Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Michael Location: LaLa Land Watch: Sub Date 16610 Posts: 1,757	I dunno... but that is a super looking sub. Congrats...!! :-)

14 August 2008, 12:58 PM	#8
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	So which P car forum do you frequent? No Cyclops is like after market wheels on the 911

14 August 2008, 11:09 PM	#11
porsche911 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Leonard Location: stockbridge,ga Watch: Submariner Posts: 58	My p-car is an 87 Granite Green Metallic, matching leather interior. I like the no cyclops look and had read somewhere that Rolex did indeed not have on all models. It's also a sapphire which is nice. My other watch is a Tag 4000 model. There is some character to this watch with a few marks on the side of it. Maybe that's when he had the crystal replaced. Thanks for the info guys. No need to change avatars I like any p-car. ps. Rennlist is my second home.

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