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Old 6 October 2016, 06:54 PM   #1
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jewelry .... Tool watch

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Old 6 October 2016, 08:30 PM   #2
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The Seiko is much more of a tool watch and although the newer Subs are more flashy, they can still be used as one if the owner intended.
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Old 6 October 2016, 08:42 PM   #3
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With those choices, jewelry.
If the top pic was a SD. Tool.
Most Rolexes today are worn as jewerley.
Having paid as little as $500 for GMTs & Subs in the 70s in those days they were tool watches.
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Old 6 October 2016, 09:13 PM   #4
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If its still capable of being used for the purpose for which it was designed then its still a tool watch in my view (regardless of price or aesthetics). You can dive with a new Rolex Sub so it fits the criteria of a genuine tool watch even if many people buy them for purposes other than diving.
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Old 6 October 2016, 09:23 PM   #5
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I get where you're going, but both are equally capable tool watches.
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Old 6 October 2016, 09:37 PM   #6
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All of my Rolex watches are tools.
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Old 6 October 2016, 09:46 PM   #7
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Seiko just reissued a legendary watch from the past, it was nicknamed "turtle" back in the 70s because of its case also it was accessible to everyone, so when I bought mine today for $360 I am gonna use it hard, like what they did back in the day when the original turtle was released .. its kinda sad that Rolex isn't anymore .. that's just my opinion I guess
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Old 6 October 2016, 09:50 PM   #8
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With those choices, jewelry.
If the top pic was a SD. Tool.
Most Rolexes today are worn as jewerley.
Having paid as little as $500 for GMTs & Subs in the 70s in those days they were tool watches.
Today I would say that 99% of Rolex watches worn today are jewellery even some just wear the brand, the days of Rolex being a tool watch is long gone.And by reading the thousands of posts on forum most Rolex watches today get a very very pampered life today.But a few of my Rolex watches were used and sometimes abused as working tools with hundreds of hours underwater both fresh and salt.
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Old 6 October 2016, 09:51 PM   #9
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ROLEX was primarily a tool watch company that over the last 30 years or so has been transitioning to primarily a luxury watch company. They have been successful. IMO.
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Old 6 October 2016, 10:04 PM   #10
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For the price people pay for rolexes, it is definitely jewelery. For less than 500 squid, you could have gotten a real tool watch that can do much more than just tell time.
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Old 6 October 2016, 10:07 PM   #11
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What is the purpose of this thread?
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Old 6 October 2016, 10:10 PM   #12
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With those choices, jewelry.
If the top pic was a SD. Tool.
Most Rolexes today are worn as jewerley.
Having paid as little as $500 for GMTs & Subs in the 70s in those days they were tool watches.
500 dollar in the 70's was still quite a penny. So even if rolex are a little more expensive today relative other things, they were still quite expensive tool watches.
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Old 6 October 2016, 10:13 PM   #13
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Jewelry, tool watch? my hulk is my only watch and I wear it 24-7. I only take it off if doing some activity that could seriously damage it or get caught on something that would damage me. I would do the same with any watch. I wore a 16613 with a Serti dial for six years in the same manner. Jewelry or tool?
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Old 6 October 2016, 10:15 PM   #14
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Today I would say that 99% of Rolex watches worn today are jewellery even some just wear the brand, the days of Rolex being a tool watch is long gone.And by reading the thousands of posts on forum most Rolex watches today get a very very pampered life today.But a few of my Rolex watches were used and sometimes abused as working tools with hundreds of hours underwater both fresh and salt.
So if you wore a modern Rolex on your underwater adventures would it be classified as a tool watch then? or just a piece of jewellery for the fishes to admire

The 'tool watches' of years ago were still pampered by many I'm sure
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Old 6 October 2016, 10:17 PM   #15
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I'm not sure of the point of this thread?
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Old 6 October 2016, 10:34 PM   #16
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So if you wore a modern Rolex on your underwater adventures would it be classified as a tool watch then? or just a piece of jewellery for the fishes to admire

The 'tool watches' of years ago were still pampered by many I'm sure
Agree 100% Its what the watch was designed to do, and can do, that defines it as a toolwatch. Whether or not people use it as jewellery is neither here nor there.
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Old 6 October 2016, 11:23 PM   #17
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Some posts above someone asked what as the point of the thread. Valid question.
If it is to highlight that Rolex has been transitioning from tool to jewellery over the last decades, well I think it is true. But let's be fair, this is what most people want to buy today from Rolex. It's really no surprise these people tend to pamper their watches a lot more.

IMO, the Tool Watch is pretty much extinct.

When the term "Tool Watch" was coined, if you wanted to be able to tell the time you HAD TO HAVE a watch. Watches were necessary, and in themselves, a tool. If you needed to tell time or measure elapsed time under some stringent or extreme conditions, you needed specialized watches. This is were tool watches came in.

Back to modern day, watches are not really necessary anymore. Time is everywhere. And with respect to the specialized watches, in all cases better tools have been created that fulfill those functions in a much, much better way.

So what is a tool watch today ? A nostalgia item, mostly.

What you see in the Seiko is a watch that follows the spirit of the Tool Watches of yore a bit more faithfully: Relatively inexpensive, rugged and dependable.

Rolex will still give you rugged and dependable, but at a very different pricepoint.

Which one of the two options are you going to take underwater on your next diving trip ? Your choice, really. Both will be fine, and you will most likely be wearing a diving computer too anyway.
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Old 7 October 2016, 12:13 AM   #18
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If you hang out at marinas, yacht clubs, port terminals or diving centers of different sorts you'll see many, many Rolex. Whatever that means.
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Who says that something that looks good can't be a tool?
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Old 7 October 2016, 12:31 AM   #20
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Who says that something that looks good can't be a tool?
Well, my wife thinks I look good but will often call me a tool
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Old 7 October 2016, 12:38 AM   #21
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I'm not sure of the point of this thread?
Agree
It's all jewelry...even though I wear mine as intended , they are still unnecessary jewelry
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Old 7 October 2016, 12:50 AM   #22
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If you REALLY wanted a tool watch for diving now....this is $89.00



Seriously....look at all the functions it performs...



Water depth - Sea or lake diving site selectable - maximum 100 records to be recorded and recall - countdown timer

Resolution: 0.1 (0.1 ft.) - automatically activate/deactivate

Dive mode - record contains: Starting time and date,
Dive duration,
maximum Dive depth,
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Range: 0 to 100 M (0 to 328 ft.)Water temperature -

Dive alarm when emerging faster than 6M/minute - resolution: 1/100 second - range: 99 hrs 59 mins 59 sec backlight

Rolex has been jewelry for the past few decades....anyone who says otherwise is only trying to fool themself.
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Old 7 October 2016, 12:55 AM   #23
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The reality is watches are no longer the tools they originally were. They've been replaced by more advanced tools rendering them antiquated for their intended purpose (beyond telling the time).

If you're not diving with a DC then you've got the wrong tool (unless it's a backup but then again I'd have a spare DC instead).

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Well, my wife thinks I look good but will often call me a tool
Well a good tool does have its appeal, Bill.
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i guess all those snap-on tools i got are just jewelry for my toolbox...

my watches always see water, and i use the timing bezel all the time. seems like it's doing what it was meant to do.
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Old 7 October 2016, 02:16 AM   #26
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they're both tool watches - just for different snack brackets.
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Seiko just reissued a legendary watch from the past, it was nicknamed "turtle" back in the 70s because of its case also it was accessible to everyone, so when I bought mine today for $360 I am gonna use it hard, like what they did back in the day when the original turtle was released .. its kinda sad that Rolex isn't anymore .. that's just my opinion I guess
My question is; Why do you think Rolex Sub isn't a tool anymore?

Does it not do something that the original Sub "toolwatch" did? No.
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Is a screwdriver a tool ? Yes.

What if i raise the price of it to 10k ? Would it still be a screwdriver ? Yes.
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A simple screwdriver worth 10K would still be a tool ? Yes.

A screwdriver would only stop being a tool if it looses its single function.

stop with your logic.

this is a watch forum!
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