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whofeelitknowsit · 16 October 2016, 12:37 AM

Hi guys!

Noobie to this forum, so please pardon me if I'm putting this in the wrong place or asking an inappropriate question.

I'm interested to know what you guys think of this ref 1675 GMT II. According to the seller, the serial number is 8xx,xxx dating it to 1961. The date wheel has the open 6/9 and the case has the printed crown guards, but I'm not sure about the dial and the hands. From what little I know, it should say only Swiss at the bottom and the hour hand should have the smaller red triangle. Also the seller says it's a gilt dial in the title but then says matte in the description. Looks matte to me, but I'm not 100% sure that's it's not just an aged gilt. I love the patina on the insert.

Thoughts?

whofeelitknowsit · 16 October 2016, 11:44 AM

For more info, the seller is Beacon Hill Jewelry on eBay. Here's the link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/282214006861

southtexas · 16 October 2016, 02:38 PM

Insert is fake

I'll let more qualified members comment on the watch. It's a purported PCG, so dial is at least later.

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Old Expat Beast · 16 October 2016, 04:59 PM

Search this section and Buyers/Sellers section for Beacon Hill. A load of trouble.

ttnpb · 16 October 2016, 05:05 PM

PCG 1675s are the most common "passable" fakes.

I don't like this watch. "Aged" insert smells fishy.

Andad · 16 October 2016, 05:52 PM

Pass on that one...

MattCH · 16 October 2016, 06:44 PM

Looks a little touched.

TimeToGo · 16 October 2016, 09:15 PM

What a mess!

whofeelitknowsit · 16 October 2016, 11:25 PM

Thanks guys. I just read up on Beacon Hill Jewelers, and all I can say is wow. There's a seller to stay away from! Sorry for wasting people's time, but I appreciate the feedback.

whofeelitknowsit · 17 October 2016, 06:26 AM

Just for my own education, am I correct that (in addition to the fake insert) it's the wrong dial and wrong 24 hour hand for a 1961 ref 1675?

southtexas · 18 October 2016, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whofeelitknowsit

Just for my own education, am I correct that (in addition to the fake insert) it's the wrong dial and wrong 24 hour hand for a 1961 ref 1675?

Yes

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whofeelitknowsit · 19 October 2016, 02:11 AM

Can I bother you guys for opinions on two others -- these are two-tone 1675s:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/282198408077...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (This one is from a seller that seems to have a good reputation with this forum, Ermitage Jewelers)

And: http://www.ebay.com/itm/201669818269...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (seller is EmpireTimeNYC, who I can't find any info about. The jubilee band looks to be an aftermarket add)

Should I start a separate thread? Do longtime members hate these types of questions?

GGGMT · 19 October 2016, 04:48 PM

Dude, stop with the eBay gambling and buy from a trusted seller on this forum. There's plenty of these watches genuine here. Jacek is a good vintage seller from whom I've bought 2.

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southtexas · 20 October 2016, 12:06 AM

Springer on this forum sells a ton of vintage GMT; he's our resident guru. Maybe consider buying one from him?

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GGGMT · 20 October 2016, 04:44 AM

Springer's a great call.

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htbilgic · 1 November 2016, 04:50 AM

Crap. I wish I read this post before. I bought a vintage Omega SM300 (big triangle) from Beacon Hill Jewelers about 2 weeks ago:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282223800013...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I received the watch (finally, it took Beacon Hill Jewelers forever to ship it). The watch looks genuine. However, there's no way this watch was serviced recently. The movement has some dirt on it, it's very difficult to set the time, and I can't wind the watch using the crown. The bezel stem is also missing.

I opened a case on eBay. Let's see how things go.

16 October 2016, 12:37 AM	#1
whofeelitknowsit "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 75	1675 GMT Question Hi guys! Noobie to this forum, so please pardon me if I'm putting this in the wrong place or asking an inappropriate question. I'm interested to know what you guys think of this ref 1675 GMT II. According to the seller, the serial number is 8xx,xxx dating it to 1961. The date wheel has the open 6/9 and the case has the printed crown guards, but I'm not sure about the dial and the hands. From what little I know, it should say only Swiss at the bottom and the hour hand should have the smaller red triangle. Also the seller says it's a gilt dial in the title but then says matte in the description. Looks matte to me, but I'm not 100% sure that's it's not just an aged gilt. I love the patina on the insert. Thoughts?

16 October 2016, 02:38 PM	#3
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,764	1675 GMT Question Insert is fake I'll let more qualified members comment on the watch. It's a purported PCG, so dial is at least later. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

16 October 2016, 05:52 PM	#6
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,528	Pass on that one... __________________ E

16 October 2016, 06:44 PM	#7
MattCH "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: EU Watch: PP/ROLEX Posts: 165	Looks a little touched. __________________

20 October 2016, 12:06 AM	#14
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,764	Springer on this forum sells a ton of vintage GMT; he's our resident guru. Maybe consider buying one from him? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

16 October 2016, 11:44 AM	#2
whofeelitknowsit "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 75	For more info, the seller is Beacon Hill Jewelry on eBay. Here's the link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/282214006861

16 October 2016, 04:59 PM	#4
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	Search this section and Buyers/Sellers section for Beacon Hill. A load of trouble.

16 October 2016, 05:05 PM	#5
ttnpb "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: So Cal Watch: 16803 Posts: 144	PCG 1675s are the most common "passable" fakes. I don't like this watch. "Aged" insert smells fishy.

16 October 2016, 09:15 PM	#8
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	What a mess!

16 October 2016, 11:25 PM	#9
whofeelitknowsit "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 75	Thanks guys. I just read up on Beacon Hill Jewelers, and all I can say is wow. There's a seller to stay away from! Sorry for wasting people's time, but I appreciate the feedback.

17 October 2016, 06:26 AM	#10
whofeelitknowsit "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 75	Just for my own education, am I correct that (in addition to the fake insert) it's the wrong dial and wrong 24 hour hand for a 1961 ref 1675?

19 October 2016, 02:11 AM	#12
whofeelitknowsit "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 75	Can I bother you guys for opinions on two others -- these are two-tone 1675s: http://www.ebay.com/itm/282198408077...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (This one is from a seller that seems to have a good reputation with this forum, Ermitage Jewelers) And: http://www.ebay.com/itm/201669818269...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (seller is EmpireTimeNYC, who I can't find any info about. The jubilee band looks to be an aftermarket add) Should I start a separate thread? Do longtime members hate these types of questions?

19 October 2016, 04:48 PM	#13
GGGMT 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,346	Dude, stop with the eBay gambling and buy from a trusted seller on this forum. There's plenty of these watches genuine here. Jacek is a good vintage seller from whom I've bought 2. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 October 2016, 04:44 AM	#15
GGGMT 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,346	Springer's a great call. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 November 2016, 04:50 AM	#16
htbilgic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Chicago Watch: Doxa Pro 300 NoT Posts: 535	Crap. I wish I read this post before. I bought a vintage Omega SM300 (big triangle) from Beacon Hill Jewelers about 2 weeks ago: http://www.ebay.com/itm/282223800013...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT I received the watch (finally, it took Beacon Hill Jewelers forever to ship it). The watch looks genuine. However, there's no way this watch was serviced recently. The movement has some dirt on it, it's very difficult to set the time, and I can't wind the watch using the crown. The bezel stem is also missing. I opened a case on eBay. Let's see how things go.

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