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JJ WA · 17 October 2016, 02:45 AM

Is there a Luminor reference which is clearly the most coveted model, like for instance 15202 to AP, or 5711 to PP?

Ruud Van Driver · 17 October 2016, 02:54 AM

I'm going to be watching this thread very closely. Great question

Speed · 17 October 2016, 03:03 AM

Hmm...I guess coveted means most wanted / therefore possibly most popular?

Most sought after could also mean - most purchased?

AAAGH!

I am going to say models 111 (now 510) and 312 - but not certain for the new blue seconds hand model.

red1108nyc · 17 October 2016, 03:04 AM

My vote goes to 360 in terms coveted.

Cru Jones · 17 October 2016, 05:00 AM

By "current" collection, do you mean BNIB and available at an AD or boutique? If so, I'm not sure you'll find a "coveted" model like the 5711 or 15202. Maybe the 233?

Why? In the end, coveted Panerais are LEs.

For Vendome, I'd go with the 360 followed by 127.

Pre-V (90s), maybe the 5218-202/A?

Overall, maybe the 6152-1?

nick c · 17 October 2016, 05:47 AM

Coffes4closers · 19 October 2016, 11:18 AM

I'd say the 233... seems to be the most sought after modern day Pam IMO. I adore mine and feel like it ticks off all the boxes for what I want in a single panerai watch.

hbk25 · 19 October 2016, 12:48 PM

I vote the new Luminor Due (PAM 676). You probably can't even jump in a pool with it on, but it looks and feels great on the wrist. Still has all the panerai design queues, but it's so thin and at 42 mm, hits my wrist's limit.

Plus the sales guy at the boutique in Vegas said his store is 1 of 3 places that have it (miami & NYC). So maybe that qualifies as sought after/tough to get.

Cru Jones · 19 October 2016, 03:39 PM

^ I'm afraid the Due is the equivalent of taking the Submariner 114060, thinning it, and reducing the WR to 30 meters (as in, no swimming)... Sounds crazy? Well, same for a Panerai, IMO...

Or taking the Jumbo, changing the bezel so that it's round, covering the screws, putting it on a strap and doing it in PVD.

;-)

Ruud Van Driver · 19 October 2016, 09:35 PM

Well, I think the 2016 blue dials are right up there. LE, boutique only and not easy to come by. My 689 is one of only 300 pieces, if I have been informed correctly.

I certainly think the 233 is up there too and it's a great looking watch. There's a lot of love for it here and it's not difficult to see why

ap1 · 19 October 2016, 09:50 PM

I knew that due post was gonna be trouble, I happen to like it but clearly it's not the go to luminor. I'd have to say 312 / 1312 but agree 233 is better just not sure it's the most recognizable

hbk25 · 20 October 2016, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ap1

I knew that due post was gonna be trouble, I happen to like it but clearly it's not the go to luminor. I'd have to say 312 / 1312 but agree 233 is better just not sure it's the most recognizable

I knew it too. I actually was going to write a caveat in there but figured I'd leave it as is. My original post was going to include the whole Italian company / culture / importance of design justification.

But yeah you guys are right, and ultimately the main reason I didn't buy it when I had the chance - 3 bar WR is just tough to justify by today's standards.

I still want it.

JJ WA · 21 October 2016, 03:08 AM

233... Nice. But wouldn't 533 be a better pick for the 10-day power reserve, with similar looks? Is the case thickness the same on these two references?

Cru Jones · 21 October 2016, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ WA

233... Nice. But wouldn't 533 be a better pick for the 10-day power reserve, with similar looks? Is the case thickness the same on these two references?

233 = sexy dome + manual movement (more true to PAM roots) + regular lume + 1st in-house OP movement (for what that's worth).

ap1 · 21 October 2016, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbk25

I knew it too. I actually was going to write a caveat in there but figured I'd leave it as is. My original post was going to include the whole Italian company / culture / importance of design justification.

But yeah you guys are right, and ultimately the main reason I didn't buy it when I had the chance - 3 bar WR is just tough to justify by today's standards.

I still want it.

I want it too.

rr-nyc · 21 October 2016, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Hmm...I guess coveted means most wanted / therefore possibly most popular?

Most sought after could also mean - most purchased?

AAAGH!

I am going to say models 111 (now 510) and 312 - but not certain for the new blue seconds hand model.

The 312 is getting a blue seconds hand too? I thought the 1312 was bit not the 312

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Preeble · 23 October 2016, 01:31 PM

I will answer in three ways. All answers ignore the SEs.

In terms of accessibility, I don't think that there is a perennial 'coveted' PAM - most watches can be obtained fairly easily within 6 months of their release and there is not a regular model that is super hard to get because it flies off the shelf (although one of the boutique employees told me that they rarely had an 005 in stock).

In terms of popularity, I think the 24 may be the most sold luminor over the years, but it likely isn't the most coveted. The 88 is also very well sold. Keep in mind that the characteristics that 'Paneristi' value/covet are likely very different than the rest of the Paneri buyers.

In terms of desirability, most people buying a watch in this price range want an automatic with at least a couple of complications (seconds, date, gmt). The three watches that I think appeal to the new buyers the most are the ones mentioned, 312, 320 and 233.

chimp98 · 23 October 2016, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbk25

I vote the new Luminor Due (PAM 676). You probably can't even jump in a pool with it on, but it looks and feels great on the wrist. Still has all the panerai design queues, but it's so thin and at 42 mm, hits my wrist's limit.

Plus the sales guy at the boutique in Vegas said his store is 1 of 3 places that have it (miami & NYC). So maybe that qualifies as sought after/tough to get.

My vote is for the 676 as well. Especially for folks with smaller wrists like mine and the lack of abundant availability like other models.

JJ WA · 3 November 2016, 10:36 AM

Thank you for your inputs, guys.

Hey May · 4 November 2016, 02:11 AM

689/662/676 imo

Maltie · 4 November 2016, 07:55 AM

233 for me, a classic

Limestonedan · 4 November 2016, 09:16 AM

689

mfer · 4 November 2016, 09:45 AM

Surprised no one mentioned the bronzos (382 and 507). It is a Luminor sub.

Oh yeah, PAM 203......1950 domed crystal, Angelus movement 8 day brown dial

donut · 4 November 2016, 12:42 PM

5711 to PP
15202 to AP
I vote 390 to Panerai.

Simple and Classic

VIP · 6 November 2016, 04:17 AM

Pam 605

metdrdg · 6 November 2016, 09:18 AM

I think if anything this thread shows there is no highly sought after piece similar to Daytona C or 5711. I love the panerai watches but it seems like all of them have significant depreciation I'd want to purchase one pre-owned.

17 October 2016, 02:45 AM	#1
JJ WA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Seattle Posts: 787	Most sought after Luminor in the current collection? Is there a Luminor reference which is clearly the most coveted model, like for instance 15202 to AP, or 5711 to PP?

17 October 2016, 02:54 AM	#2
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19 October 2016, 12:48 PM	#8
hbk25 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Eric Location: US Watch: Z Blue Posts: 178	Most sought after Luminor in the current collection? I vote the new Luminor Due (PAM 676). You probably can't even jump in a pool with it on, but it looks and feels great on the wrist. Still has all the panerai design queues, but it's so thin and at 42 mm, hits my wrist's limit. Plus the sales guy at the boutique in Vegas said his store is 1 of 3 places that have it (miami & NYC). So maybe that qualifies as sought after/tough to get.

19 October 2016, 09:35 PM	#10
Ruud Van Driver "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chopped Liver Location: S. Wales Valleys Watch: Mickey Mouse Posts: 9,926	Well, I think the 2016 blue dials are right up there. LE, boutique only and not easy to come by. My 689 is one of only 300 pieces, if I have been informed correctly. I certainly think the 233 is up there too and it's a great looking watch. There's a lot of love for it here and it's not difficult to see why __________________ 116520 Black, 116610 LVc, 116660 D-Blue, 116610 LNc, 116622 Blue, PAM359, PAM689, PAM737 *"Why should you allow an AD to shake you down, just so you can buy a watch" - Grady Philpott* Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

17 October 2016, 03:03 AM	#3
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Hmm...I guess coveted means most wanted / therefore possibly most popular? Most sought after could also mean - most purchased? AAAGH! I am going to say models 111 (now 510) and 312 - but not certain for the new blue seconds hand model.

17 October 2016, 03:04 AM	#4
red1108nyc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Fred Location: NYC/NJ Metro Area Watch: Rolex Posts: 8,512	My vote goes to 360 in terms coveted.

17 October 2016, 05:00 AM	#5
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,300	By "current" collection, do you mean BNIB and available at an AD or boutique? If so, I'm not sure you'll find a "coveted" model like the 5711 or 15202. Maybe the 233? Why? In the end, coveted Panerais are LEs. For Vendome, I'd go with the 360 followed by 127. Pre-V (90s), maybe the 5218-202/A? Overall, maybe the 6152-1?

19 October 2016, 11:18 AM	#7
Coffes4closers "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: NYC Posts: 326	I'd say the 233... seems to be the most sought after modern day Pam IMO. I adore mine and feel like it ticks off all the boxes for what I want in a single panerai watch.

19 October 2016, 03:39 PM	#9
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,300	^ I'm afraid the Due is the equivalent of taking the Submariner 114060, thinning it, and reducing the WR to 30 meters (as in, no swimming)... Sounds crazy? Well, same for a Panerai, IMO... Or taking the Jumbo, changing the bezel so that it's round, covering the screws, putting it on a strap and doing it in PVD. ;-)

19 October 2016, 09:50 PM	#11
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,537	I knew that due post was gonna be trouble, I happen to like it but clearly it's not the go to luminor. I'd have to say 312 / 1312 but agree 233 is better just not sure it's the most recognizable

21 October 2016, 03:08 AM	#13
JJ WA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Seattle Posts: 787	233... Nice. But wouldn't 533 be a better pick for the 10-day power reserve, with similar looks? Is the case thickness the same on these two references?

23 October 2016, 01:31 PM	#17
Preeble "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: PA Posts: 111	I will answer in three ways. All answers ignore the SEs. In terms of accessibility, I don't think that there is a perennial 'coveted' PAM - most watches can be obtained fairly easily within 6 months of their release and there is not a regular model that is super hard to get because it flies off the shelf (although one of the boutique employees told me that they rarely had an 005 in stock). In terms of popularity, I think the 24 may be the most sold luminor over the years, but it likely isn't the most coveted. The 88 is also very well sold. Keep in mind that the characteristics that 'Paneristi' value/covet are likely very different than the rest of the Paneri buyers. In terms of desirability, most people buying a watch in this price range want an automatic with at least a couple of complications (seconds, date, gmt). The three watches that I think appeal to the new buyers the most are the ones mentioned, 312, 320 and 233.

3 November 2016, 10:36 AM	#19
JJ WA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Seattle Posts: 787	Thank you for your inputs, guys.

4 November 2016, 02:11 AM	#20
Hey May "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: South Florida Watch: Panerai/JLC Posts: 16	689/662/676 imo

4 November 2016, 07:55 AM	#21
Maltie "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Belgium Posts: 403	233 for me, a classic

4 November 2016, 09:16 AM	#22
Limestonedan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Posts: 983	689

4 November 2016, 09:45 AM	#23
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	Surprised no one mentioned the bronzos (382 and 507). It is a Luminor sub. Oh yeah, PAM 203......1950 domed crystal, Angelus movement 8 day brown dial __________________ member#3242

4 November 2016, 12:42 PM	#24
donut "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Jerry Location: Unseen Thailand Watch: LN/LV/BLNR Posts: 543	5711 to PP 15202 to AP I vote 390 to Panerai. Simple and Classic

6 November 2016, 04:17 AM	#25
VIP "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: @vip_watch_bra Location: Brasil Posts: 31	Pam 605

6 November 2016, 09:18 AM	#26
metdrdg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Florida Watch: SSDayt, 5711, 5170 Posts: 195	I think if anything this thread shows there is no highly sought after piece similar to Daytona C or 5711. I love the panerai watches but it seems like all of them have significant depreciation I'd want to purchase one pre-owned.

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