GMT Master II 116710BLNR

[Alasdair]

I have been able to get my hands on a plain black and a black/blue bezel GMT master lately - controversial view but I prefer the plain black! So I'm thinking of selling the black/blue - or hanging onto it for investment purposes (it's all stickered still!). What are your thoughts? Thanks!

[Zambian4ever]

Not sure it is an investment grade Watch - not that many watches are in general. While it won't lose a ton of value I don't think this will appreciate either.


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[superstarmar]

I'd keep the BLNR and sell the LN...
all black bezel would be boring for me... personal taste
But you have to do what's right for you ...

The LN is no slouch don't get me wrong ,
I just like sone color so that's why I'd keep and
wear the GMT BLNR ... and I do cause I have one ...

[Watchgeek5000]

The blue/black is hot now because it's new. I don't see it going up anymore than any other proffesional model. If your thinking 30 or 40 years, there are way better things to invest in with a much better return.

[rolexnub]

Originally Posted by superstarmar

I'd keep the BLNR and sell the LN...
all black bezel would be boring for me... personal taste
But you have to do what's right for you ...

The LN is no slouch don't get me wrong ,
I just like sone color so that's why I'd keep and
wear the GMT BLNR ... and I do cause I have one ...

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[Adamk]

Keep both, the BLNR will grow on you with time

[AlpinweissM3]

I vote BLNR much more unique

[rgwarden]

Wow some of the advice on here... bar a ceramic Daytona what watch has appreciated as much as the BLNR in the last two years?? Your idea is a good one. Enjoy the LN and keep the BLNR mint and stickered. If I could have kept mine for pure investment it would have been a no brainier to do so. When I bought it on Feb 2015 for £5950 I'd been on a 3 month waiting list. At the Xmas party in the same boutique a week ago they showed me the waiting lists. Ceramic Daytonas 3 full A4 pages of names with an estimated 10 years waiting time! But the BLNR was second up with 14 months, now selling second hand but stickered for £7850!! If you can afford to, do exactly as your post suggests. The only way is up for that model. It makes a better investment than daily wearer in my opinion.

[s14roller]

If you like the LN, keep the LN. BLNR wont be an investment.

[GMT Aviator]

When the ceramic Coke comes out at Basel 17, the BLNR will get knocked from its perch, won't be long after that you'll see BLNR prices normalise. ;)

[Chadridv]

Generally I would say move it along and get what you want, but the OP is in the UK. It's a bit of a different game there isn't it?

I went a number of years without ever seeing a BLNR, then about 9 months ago, my best bud got one, and shortly there after I saw it in three different ADs. The little I hear from across the pond is that the situation there is quite different. Anyhow, I'm not sure that makes this (or any modern) watch an "investment" piece, but the UK scene may be quite different than the US.

[AK797]

I say wear the LN and sell the BLNR. So it might go up a little bit in the future, but if you sell you've got six grand plus to buy something you really want now. Not worth the delay and opportunity cost for me.

[Hairdude1]

Originally Posted by AK797

I say wear the LN and sell the BLNR. So it might go up a little bit in the future, but if you sell you've got six grand plus to buy something you really want now. Not worth the delay and opportunity cost for me.

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[Alasdair]

Thanks for your advice everyone, I'll have a think over the next few days!

[1William]

I would move on if you are not feeling it. Way too many nice watches out in the world to have two of the same, unless that is what you want. Find something that does it for you. The Hulk or the Polar Explorer II would work nicely with your black explorer.

[travisb]

Don't keep it as an investment.
Keep and wear whichever you like best which sounds like the LN.
BLNR will always get the popular vote but don't let that sway you.

[brandrea]

Watches are for wearing , move which ever one you won't wear. Way better ways to make money, than sitting on a watch for 30 years

[kwingy]

Keep the BLNR for investment purposes - as already been said in the UK it's a very different ballgame because of Brexit - all prices of Rolexes have gone up an insane amount.

New the BLNR was £5950 but is now £6500 with over a 1 year waiting list.
Pre-owned 18 months ago you could get one for £5750 but now its easily over 7k for a 2013 one and almost 8k for a 2016 WORN.

[watchwatcher]

I would sell the BLNR, if it doesn't do it for you. I would think the market would be pretty good right now in the UK.

[smak]

the BLNR was released in a time when all other models were in a mass produced (to highly prized specifications) manufacturing processes.

The LN although visibly discernible as a newer model to the trained eye, it has the appearance of the classic Rolex that were at one time produced in smaller quantities an can be quite rare to date.

BLNR is still a great watch, but the LN throws back to not only that classic look, but classic time in Rolex history.

[behardt]

I had the BLNR when it first cam out and loved for a couple months. Then, the blue vs. black was just too stark a difference for me. It looked poorly planned so I flipped it. The black on the other hand is completely classic. Very clean looking, non-trendy looking watch. I like the all black better.

I would flip it while they're fairly hot. Someone below said it, if the coke comes out, people will probably move away from the BLNR. Newer style watches are a poor investment unless you can get an extremely limited production model...

[WEST HAM ROLEX]

Keep them both. At times you will wear both. Don't sell...
Don't think about future price,,,not worth it.

Just enjoy wearing both watches.

They are my favourite 2 models.

[GMT Aviator]

Originally Posted by kwingy

Keep the BLNR for investment purposes - as already been said in the UK it's a very different ballgame because of Brexit - all prices of Rolexes have gone up an insane amount.

New the BLNR was £5950 but is now £6500 with over a 1 year waiting list.
Pre-owned 18 months ago you could get one for £5750 but now its easily over 7k for a 2013 one and almost 8k for a 2016 WORN.

Those prices for a BLNR are just ridiculous and I doubt many actually sell for that. Watchfinder prices maybe.

Over a 1 year waiting list is a myth.

I actually called my local AD last month about one. They're expecting a BLNR in around end of Jan. If I want it, it's mine, no mention of a one year wait.

With respect to the OP......I had a choice of BLNR and LN and went for the LN and put a sub bracelet on it for the brushed links and glidelock clasp. That turned it into an almost £7K watch right off the bat.

The Blue of the BLNR just didn't sing to me, but for others it will and does.

At first I wasn't a big fan of the green GMT hand having got used to the red one on my other 16710 models, but now I actually think it suits the watch well. It is classy and understated IMHO and thats the type of GMT I was after. If it was a choice of green, blue or red GMT hand I would always opt for red, but the green just works on the new ceramic LN because of the general tonal colour of the loom on the dial, and ironically, my watch has the newer blue loom. I don't know if anyone else with an LN has noticed this?

Whilst I can see the appeal of the BLNR, its a HUGE hit in the US, more so than here in the UK, and it is a beautiful watch, but so is the LN.......and not any less so.

Would I flip my LN for a BLNR? Nope!

I say sell the BLNR and wear the LN....but I would based on what I've done.

[JasH]

[QUOTE=behardt;7191183]

if the coke comes out, people will probably move away from the BLNR.QUOTE]

Not necessarily. I like the subtle difference between black/blue, and would not personally want a watch with a more pronounced colour difference.

[Nairn1980]

I think the BLNR is incredible and is worth keeping :)

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by Nairn1980

I think the BLNR is incredible and is worth keeping :)

I agree as well !!!

[Lightforce1911]

havent stopped wearing my blnr love it so much.

[rolexnub]

Originally Posted by behardt

if the coke comes out, people will probably move away from the BLNR. Newer style watches are a poor investment unless you can get an extremely limited production model...

Pardon me, but I don't think so. If the Coke comes out (if ever), people will probably move away from the LN than the BLNR. People who love GMTs love color. Just look at the old 5 digit reference, Pepsi and Coke are way more popular than the plain black bezel.

So for newer GMTs with ceramic bezel, the BLNR would still be popular even if a Coke comes out in the future. There something about that blue color that makes the BLNR a great looking watch.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by rolexnub

Pardon me, but I don't think so. If the Coke comes out (if ever), people will probably move away from the LN than the BLNR. People who love GMTs love color. Just look at the old 5 digit reference, Pepsi and Coke are way more popular than the plain black bezel.

So for newer GMTs with ceramic bezel, the BLNR would still be popular even if a Coke comes out in the future. There something about that blue color that makes the BLNR a great looking watch.

I tend to agree with this. I think there would certainly be an initial spike, or i should say hit rather on all other variants, but personally I would still prefer the BLNR over the coke bezel. Either way I agree the main hit would be on the LN.

That said, I seriously doubt they will make the coke bezel. It's way too similar IMO to the Pepsi which is as we all know exclusive to precious metal. I can't see Rolex making a move that would also affect a precious metal model so much.

[GMT Aviator]

Originally Posted by rolexnub

Pardon me, but I don't think so. If the Coke comes out (if ever), people will probably move away from the LN than the BLNR. People who love GMTs love color. Just look at the old 5 digit reference, Pepsi and Coke are way more popular than the plain black bezel.

So for newer GMTs with ceramic bezel, the BLNR would still be popular even if a Coke comes out in the future. There something about that blue color that makes the BLNR a great looking watch.

You may be right, it was just my thoughts based on the fact that the BLNR is currently the only SS GMT right now with any colour at all. If another should be released in Coke, it will surely dilute the BLNR sales somewhat.

I love GMT's and I too love colour, but of the three 16710's I possess in each of the available colours, the LN is still the most versatile. Coke is a second for me with the pepsi last, but that is only because I wore a pepsi for almost 20 years on a jubilee and eventually tired of it in that colour combo.

The difference these days is that you're stuck with the colour bezel you buy unless you're fortunate enough to own every available combination. LN is always the safe bet.

One tires of the colour bezels quicker than you might think. At least I did.