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Ahzee · 15 January 2017, 02:34 AM

What are your thoughts on this? This is a local seller in Connecticut.

MonBK · 15 January 2017, 02:35 AM

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Nairn1980 · 15 January 2017, 02:35 AM

Hard to tell for sure but bracelet looks off and in bad shape.

Ahzee · 15 January 2017, 02:37 AM

I was thinking the same thing about the bracelet. I think it's fake. I'm very new to the Rolex world but it doesn't seem right to me. The woman is asking $4,000.

Chewbacca · 15 January 2017, 02:38 AM

run.

Ahzee · 15 January 2017, 02:50 AM

I'm running. Thank you guys. You just confirmed what I already thought!

GLADIATOR · 15 January 2017, 03:06 AM

Looks all fake to me

CLTRolex · 15 January 2017, 03:18 AM

Fake

CLTRolex · 15 January 2017, 03:18 AM

Fake

Ahzee · 15 January 2017, 04:01 AM

Thank you for the speedy replies. You guys are awesome.

blue16613 · 15 January 2017, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahzee

What are your thoughts on this? This is a local seller in Connecticut.

Not even close! !00% fake

freefly · 15 January 2017, 07:23 AM

Sorry, but there is NOTHING there that would confirm a fake. In fact, it looks fine from here.
The bracelet looks good (for a vintage "USA" 60's SS/14k ladies model). The dial could be aftermarket/refinished, but the pics are too small/bad to tell.

crowncollection · 15 January 2017, 07:39 AM

The watch is not fake. Endlinks are incorrect, the dial could be real or fake cant tell from those pics. Band is original usa band

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jvmartin · 15 January 2017, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crowncollection

The watch is not fake. Endlinks are incorrect, the dial could be real or fake cant tell from those pics. Band is original usa band

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Thank you David for clarifying... watch appears to be a 6917... I am leaning toward factory with the dial though better pics are needed

crowncollection · 15 January 2017, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jvmartin

Thank you David for clarifying... watch appears to be a 6917... I am leaning toward factory with the dial though better pics are needed

My guess is factory dial also but pics are no goidcherrs

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freefly · 15 January 2017, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crowncollection

Endlinks are incorrect

Are you sure? Look OK from here.

crowncollection · 15 January 2017, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freefly

Are you sure? Look OK from here.

As sure as I can be with those pics lol

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Flywheel · 15 January 2017, 05:06 PM

Endlinks look terrible.

freefly · 15 January 2017, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

As sure as I can be with those pics lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flywheel

Endlinks look terrible.

Sorry, going to have to go against the grain AGAIN here.

End links look fine to me (yes, including the lines on the bottom sides).
Just like every other 13mm Rolex "USA" (JB Champion) Jubilee style bracelet I've seen.

freefly · 15 January 2017, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jvmartin

Thank you David for clarifying...

GLADIATOR · 15 January 2017, 08:54 PM

Personally, to me from those photos no one could categorically state watch is "all 100% genuine and correct".
I have touched a lot of fakes, and that watch compares to them.

I am happy to be proven incorrect, but based on those photos, I would act with extreme caution.
Regards
adam

blue16613 · 16 January 2017, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Personally, to me from those photos no one could categorically state watch is "all 100% genuine and correct".
I have touched a lot of fakes, and that watch compares to them.

I am happy to be proven incorrect, but based on those photos, I would act with extreme caution.
Regards
adam

"What he said!"

watches4me · 16 January 2017, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freefly

Sorry, but there is NOTHING there that would confirm a fake. In fact, it looks fine from here.

The bracelet looks good (for a vintage "USA" 60's SS/14k ladies model). The dial could be aftermarket/refinished, but the pics are too small/bad to tell.

I have To agree, looks good to me as well. Bracelets looks good from what o can see, case also looks good. Not sure about the diamond dial, that's a question mark for me unless I can get better pics.

Last, $4000 way way to high

Price should honestly be around 700 to 1200 period, I see no more value thank that.

26mm ladies ROLEX datejust is dead, in fact ROLEX has discontinued the size from inventory..

Just my educated opinion !!

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freefly · 16 January 2017, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue16613

"What he said!"

No.

mjclark32 · 16 January 2017, 07:29 AM

Looks no good to me

freefly · 16 January 2017, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Personally, to me from those photos no one could categorically state watch is "all 100% genuine and correct".
I have touched a lot of fakes, and that watch compares to them.

Your post makes no sense. The pics (in your opinion) are not good enough to authenticate it, but they are good enough for you to claim it's fake?

If you've ever seen/held a genuine USA/JB bracelet (like the one above), you'd realize nobody would bother to fake them, lol...

GLADIATOR · 16 January 2017, 07:50 AM

Hi Eric
If you are willing to authenticate that watch 100% as genuine on those photos - that is fine.

Me? I can not.
PS: They fake and FAKED everything! Its not a modern phenomena

freefly · 16 January 2017, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Hi Eric
If you are willing to authenticate that watch 100% as genuine on those photos - that is fine.

Where did I say that? Please don't try to put words in my mouth.

I am simply countering all of the bad info here and bold proclamations that it's "all fake" like you first mentioned.

You stated that it "looked all fake" to you. In my opinion, based on those photos, you are wrong.
I am not saying that EVERYTHING looks genuine, as the pics aren't good enough to make out the dial and obviously we can't see the movement.
However, there are enough indicators there that should have you (as a self-proclaimed "expert") leaning towards "genuine" and not "fake" IMO.

freefly · 16 January 2017, 08:40 AM

Here's a bit of info to counter the epic amout of fail in this thread:

1. The bracelet is genuine (Rolex "USA" JB Champion 13mm SS/14k Jubilee).
2. The case-back is clean, without the engraving that later 26mm models had, as it should be.
3. The bezel is well worn, indicating that it's real/solid gold.
4. Date disc look correct, and not the bold-font of later 26mm models.
5. Winding crown looks correct.

GLADIATOR · 16 January 2017, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freefly

Where did I say that? Please don't try to put words in my mouth.

I am simply countering all of the bad info here and bold proclamations that it's "all fake" like you first mentioned.

You stated that it "looked all fake" to you. In my opinion, based on those photos, you are wrong.
I am not saying that EVERYTHING looks genuine, as the pics aren't good enough to make out the dial and obviously we can't see the movement.
However, there are enough indicators there that should have you (as a self-proclaimed "expert") leaning towards "genuine" and not "fake" IMO.

That's fine.
I understand.

One point I am NOT "a self proclaimed expert" - I NEVER profess that indeed, I do not allow anyone to state I am an "expert" - if you do some research you will find that out.
I surely teach Identifying the Luxury from the Fake, and I believe NO one will buy a fake after my course (and none have)
That said, I may allow a genuine to walk by.

Thanks, I am out of this topic
A

15 January 2017, 02:34 AM	#1
Ahzee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Connecticut Posts: 19	Real or not? What are your thoughts on this? This is a local seller in Connecticut. Attached Images

15 January 2017, 03:06 AM	#7
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Looks all fake to me __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

15 January 2017, 03:18 AM	#8
CLTRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Charlotte/London Watch: Multiple Posts: 889	Fake __________________ ♕ Daytona - 116506 ♕ GMT-Master II - 116710BLNR ♕ Yacht-Master II - 116680 ♕ Daytona - 116520 ♕ Explorer II - 16570

15 January 2017, 03:18 AM	#9
CLTRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Charlotte/London Watch: Multiple Posts: 889	Fake __________________ ♕ Daytona - 116506 ♕ GMT-Master II - 116710BLNR ♕ Yacht-Master II - 116680 ♕ Daytona - 116520 ♕ Explorer II - 16570

15 January 2017, 07:39 AM	#13
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	The watch is not fake. Endlinks are incorrect, the dial could be real or fake cant tell from those pics. Band is original usa band Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

15 January 2017, 02:35 AM	#2
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	.

15 January 2017, 02:35 AM	#3
Nairn1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 8,385	Hard to tell for sure but bracelet looks off and in bad shape.

15 January 2017, 02:37 AM	#4
Ahzee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Connecticut Posts: 19	I was thinking the same thing about the bracelet. I think it's fake. I'm very new to the Rolex world but it doesn't seem right to me. The woman is asking $4,000.

15 January 2017, 02:38 AM	#5
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	run.

15 January 2017, 02:50 AM	#6
Ahzee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Connecticut Posts: 19	I'm running. Thank you guys. You just confirmed what I already thought!

15 January 2017, 04:01 AM	#10
Ahzee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Connecticut Posts: 19	Thank you for the speedy replies. You guys are awesome.

15 January 2017, 07:23 AM	#12
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	Sorry, but there is NOTHING there that would confirm a fake. In fact, it looks fine from here. The bracelet looks good (for a vintage "USA" 60's SS/14k ladies model). The dial could be aftermarket/refinished, but the pics are too small/bad to tell.

15 January 2017, 05:06 PM	#18
Flywheel "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Cleveland Posts: 628	Endlinks look terrible.

15 January 2017, 08:54 PM	#21
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Personally, to me from those photos no one could categorically state watch is "all 100% genuine and correct". I have touched a lot of fakes, and that watch compares to them. I am happy to be proven incorrect, but based on those photos, I would act with extreme caution. Regards adam __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

16 January 2017, 07:29 AM	#25
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Looks no good to me __________________

16 January 2017, 07:50 AM	#27
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Hi Eric If you are willing to authenticate that watch 100% as genuine on those photos - that is fine. Me? I can not. PS: They fake and FAKED everything! Its not a modern phenomena __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done." Last edited by GLADIATOR; 16 January 2017 at 07:50 AM.. Reason: they

16 January 2017, 08:40 AM	#29
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	Here's a bit of info to counter the epic amout of fail in this thread: 1. The bracelet is genuine (Rolex "USA" JB Champion 13mm SS/14k Jubilee). 2. The case-back is clean, without the engraving that later 26mm models had, as it should be. 3. The bezel is well worn, indicating that it's real/solid gold. 4. Date disc look correct, and not the bold-font of later 26mm models. 5. Winding crown looks correct.

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