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racer24 · 26 January 2017, 02:00 PM

I brought my first AP couple weeks ago. Today, my AD called and told me they have a special price for the AP ROO forged carbon 44m. The Model #: 26400au.oo.a002ca.01. They are asking for 27.5K. He made it sounded like it's a fire sale. This is a watch I will eventually get. So my question is, is the offered price too good to pass? Since I just got an AP, I prefer to wait for few months to get another one. But if the price is truly a bargain, I can get it now.
Thanks for any feedback.

jem7v · 26 January 2017, 02:03 PM

It's not a bargain. Under 25k would be a good price. 23-24k would be a bargain.

racer24 · 26 January 2017, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jem7v

It's not a bargain. Under 25k would be a good price. 23-24k would be a bargain.

Wow, that low? This is a BNIB.

jem7v · 26 January 2017, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by racer24

Wow, that low? This is a BNIB.

23% off isn't a bargain. You should be getting 27-30% off as a fair deal. Over 30% is bargain.

Obviously this dealer has no buyer. That watch is old. The fact it's still sitting around gives you the power to negotiate.

Lordofrolex · 26 January 2017, 03:26 PM

I've seen them for 24k easy. CRM jewelers in Miami just had one for 24k.

Manofsteelpt · 26 January 2017, 11:27 PM

That's not a bad price for a BNIB from AD with 3 yrs warranty. You're NOT gonna get a new one under 25k.

racer24 · 26 January 2017, 11:31 PM

appreciate all the feedback. I guess I will buy it if they accept my 24K counter. I always thought jomashop has the cheapest price, so I kind of use their price as a guide. still a rookie. LOL

racer24 · 26 January 2017, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

That's not a bad price for a BNIB from AD with 3 yrs warranty. You're NOT gonna get a new one under 25k.

someone just said 24K easy. I am now confused

Luv2XcelR8 · 26 January 2017, 11:39 PM

Let me know how this ends up.

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masterserg · 26 January 2017, 11:39 PM

27.5 for BNIB is fair (actually pretty good for an AD). The last one I saw (grey) after it was discontinued was above that.

texex91 · 26 January 2017, 11:56 PM

AD's have about 37% margin--so whatever you feel comfortable giving up.

Manofsteelpt · 27 January 2017, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by racer24

someone just said 24K easy. I am now confused

Not for a BNIB from an AD. No way.

Manofsteelpt · 27 January 2017, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

I've seen them for 24k easy. CRM jewelers in Miami just had one for 24k.

Have any links to listings for this piece at 24k?

Submarino · 27 January 2017, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by racer24

Wow, that low? This is a BNIB.

It is a bargain BNIB at that price you were quoted. Last price was $36,900 USD.

http://www.watchcollectinglifestyle....on-cases-by-ap

verymickey · 27 January 2017, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

AD's have about 37% margin--so whatever you feel comfortable giving up.

how confidant are you in that number?

racer24 · 27 January 2017, 02:57 AM

BTW, I countered with 24K this morning, and the AD thought I was being unreasonable. the guy was actually pretty upset when I mentioned the number.

texex91 · 27 January 2017, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by racer24

BTW, I countered with 24K this morning, and the AD thought I was being unreasonable. the guy was actually pretty upset when I mentioned the number.

Considering his cost is $23,250'ish, I'd think he was probably right in his feeling

masterserg · 27 January 2017, 03:10 AM

24 for BNIB is nonsense.

AMCK87 · 27 January 2017, 03:44 AM

27.5 is a pretty fair deal, i think if you get into the 26 range I would call it a bargain.

jem7v · 27 January 2017, 07:03 AM

Alright go up to 25k max. Think of it like this you buy 27.5k BNIB and if tomorrow you turned around and tried to sell you'd take a 4-5k loss. Does that make sense to you?

How bad do you want it? I wouldn't go over 25k max.

racer24 · 27 January 2017, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jem7v

Alright go up to 25k max. Think of it like this you buy 27.5k BNIB and if tomorrow you turned around and tried to sell you'd take a 4-5k loss. Does that make sense to you?

How bad do you want it? I wouldn't go over 25k max.

I actually prefer to get the 44m RG version first. the AD's bottom line is 27.5. I guess I will pass then. I am new to the AP world, still learning all the ropes. Unlike rolex which there is not much gaming on the pricing.

jem7v · 27 January 2017, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by racer24

I actually prefer to get the 44m RG version first. the AD's bottom line is 27.5. I guess I will pass then. I am new to the AP world, still learning all the ropes. Unlike rolex which there is not much gaming on the pricing.

They should be offering 30% to you. Discontinued or not. The carbon pieces never went up after being discontinued. Just look at the alinghi pieces.

I'd get the RG first too. I sold my 44CE for the new 44RG. I'm sure at some point AP will make another 44FC. I'll probably add that one then as well.

Lordofrolex · 27 January 2017, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by racer24

BTW, I countered with 24K this morning, and the AD thought I was being unreasonable. the guy was actually pretty upset when I mentioned the number.

Thats used. Not BNIB. Call CRM Jewelers in Miami tell them you saw there 44mm carbon for 24k. If they ever get another one in to let you know.

Manofsteelpt · 27 January 2017, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jem7v

They should be offering 30% to you. Discontinued or not. The carbon pieces never went up after being discontinued. Just look at the alinghi pieces.

I'd get the RG first too. I sold my 44CE for the new 44RG. I'm sure at some point AP will make another 44FC. I'll probably add that one then as well.

LOVE to see some examples of a BNIB FC for $25k. Pls post some links. Thx.

And did u lose $4-5k selling ur CE 44?

SMD · 27 January 2017, 12:59 PM

It's nonsense like seen in this thread that my ignore list keeps longer and longer. Your AD made a fair offer. Probably a little room but 24 was not reasonable.

omiles · 27 January 2017, 01:11 PM

actually , 27k for brand new from AD is reason .

I don't think they can do 24-25k for brand new

Good luck

Hairdude1 · 27 January 2017, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by verymickey

how confidant are you in that number?

I will second that at 37%

jem7v · 27 January 2017, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

LOVE to see some examples of a BNIB FC for $25k. Pls post some links. Thx.

And did u lose $4-5k selling ur CE 44?

Not at all. But I got it at a good price. My dealer gives me all AP between 25-29% off. Sometimes 30% if it's been held for over a year.

Plus the CE always had better resale than the FC. If I told you what I'm getting the new RG at, you'd really be questioning justifying 27.5k for the FC considering how long that dealer has held onto it.

I just know used people like CRM and the other big grey dealers will pay like 20-22k for that watch. Then they list it for around 24-25k. Then ultimately sell it for like 22-23k. Especially CRM. They buy everything for around 15% lower than they first initially list it at. I know Eric well.

So again to me it isn't worth losing 4-5k. If this is like a watch for life then OP can come back at like 26.5k and just live with that price.

Lordofrolex · 27 January 2017, 03:27 PM

Now I'm confused. Is it a question between buying new and used. If your looking at used 24k is the going rate. New maybe 27k is a good deal. Would I buy it New probably not. But it's up to you.

masterserg · 28 January 2017, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jem7v

Not at all. But I got it at a good price. My dealer gives me all AP between 25-29% off. Sometimes 30% if it's been held for over a year.

Plus the CE always had better resale than the FC. If I told you what I'm getting the new RG at, you'd really be questioning justifying 27.5k for the FC considering how long that dealer has held onto it.

I just know used people like CRM and the other big grey dealers will pay like 20-22k for that watch. Then they list it for around 24-25k. Then ultimately sell it for like 22-23k. Especially CRM. They buy everything for around 15% lower than they first initially list it at. I know Eric well.

So again to me it isn't worth losing 4-5k. If this is like a watch for life then OP can come back at like 26.5k and just live with that price.

You might have noticed that CRM has an FC 44 pre-owned listed at 31+ ...

26 January 2017, 02:00 PM	#1
racer24 Banned Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: USA Watch: PP, AP, Rolex Posts: 352	Pricing on AP ROO forged carbon I brought my first AP couple weeks ago. Today, my AD called and told me they have a special price for the AP ROO forged carbon 44m. The Model #: 26400au.oo.a002ca.01. They are asking for 27.5K. He made it sounded like it's a fire sale. This is a watch I will eventually get. So my question is, is the offered price too good to pass? Since I just got an AP, I prefer to wait for few months to get another one. But if the price is truly a bargain, I can get it now. Thanks for any feedback.

26 January 2017, 03:26 PM	#5
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,691	I've seen them for 24k easy. CRM jewelers in Miami just had one for 24k. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

26 January 2017, 11:39 PM	#9
Luv2XcelR8 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Real Name: Tyler Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 495	Let me know how this ends up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: heinz_nation

26 January 2017, 11:39 PM	#10
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	27.5 for BNIB is fair (actually pretty good for an AD). The last one I saw (grey) after it was discontinued was above that. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

27 January 2017, 03:10 AM	#18
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	24 for BNIB is nonsense. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

26 January 2017, 02:03 PM	#2
jem7v Banned Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 842	It's not a bargain. Under 25k would be a good price. 23-24k would be a bargain.

26 January 2017, 11:27 PM	#6
Manofsteelpt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,971	That's not a bad price for a BNIB from AD with 3 yrs warranty. You're NOT gonna get a new one under 25k.

26 January 2017, 11:31 PM	#7
racer24 Banned Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: USA Watch: PP, AP, Rolex Posts: 352	appreciate all the feedback. I guess I will buy it if they accept my 24K counter. I always thought jomashop has the cheapest price, so I kind of use their price as a guide. still a rookie. LOL

26 January 2017, 11:56 PM	#11
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	AD's have about 37% margin--so whatever you feel comfortable giving up.

27 January 2017, 02:57 AM	#16
racer24 Banned Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: USA Watch: PP, AP, Rolex Posts: 352	BTW, I countered with 24K this morning, and the AD thought I was being unreasonable. the guy was actually pretty upset when I mentioned the number.

27 January 2017, 03:44 AM	#19
AMCK87 Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: USA Posts: 1,339	27.5 is a pretty fair deal, i think if you get into the 26 range I would call it a bargain.

27 January 2017, 07:03 AM	#20
jem7v Banned Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 842	Alright go up to 25k max. Think of it like this you buy 27.5k BNIB and if tomorrow you turned around and tried to sell you'd take a 4-5k loss. Does that make sense to you? How bad do you want it? I wouldn't go over 25k max.

27 January 2017, 12:59 PM	#25
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,701	It's nonsense like seen in this thread that my ignore list keeps longer and longer. Your AD made a fair offer. Probably a little room but 24 was not reasonable.

27 January 2017, 01:11 PM	#26
omiles 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 6,365	actually , 27k for brand new from AD is reason . I don't think they can do 24-25k for brand new Good luck

27 January 2017, 03:27 PM	#29
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,691	Now I'm confused. Is it a question between buying new and used. If your looking at used 24k is the going rate. New maybe 27k is a good deal. Would I buy it New probably not. But it's up to you. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

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