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KNY · 3 March 2017, 06:51 AM

Does anyone have a macro shot of what the luminous material on the hands of a red sub should look like? Is it generally the same as the lume plots on the dial (textured), or should it be smoother and glossy? Sorry for the noob question, I tried to find the answer but I'm coming up empty handed.
Thanks all!

estorlie · 3 March 2017, 07:32 AM

The luminous material in the hands should look approximately the same as the material on the dial. I'd be careful of anything that has a glossy or "wet" look to it, as this can be a sign of a poor re-lume job.

swish77 · 3 March 2017, 10:38 AM

There is often a waffle-like texture to the tritium on the hour plots that will not be present on the hands, mainly because the surface area is much smaller on the hands. The hands should be fairly smooth in texture and matte, like on my '72 5512. (Note the different texture on the hour plots.)

Can you post a photo of the dial/hands in question? And by the way, it's not specific to red Subs. Rolex would have used the same technique on other models too.

springer · 3 March 2017, 01:43 PM

Here you go.

michael067 · 3 March 2017, 02:37 PM

V.lats97nsx · 3 March 2017, 02:55 PM

1665 rail

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KNY · 3 March 2017, 03:12 PM

Thanks for the replies and the pictures guys, this is very helpful. I think I'm feeling a bit better about what I'm seeing here. I tried to take some pictures with my phone but this is the best I could get. Let me know what you think.

KNY · 3 March 2017, 03:18 PM

Pic didn't post. This should work. What I thought I was seeing was a bit of that glossiness that was mentioned. Anything look off to anyone?

dbhak22 · 4 March 2017, 07:03 AM

Here are a couple of my 1680, not a 'red' but the tritium isn't any different, :)

jedly1 · 5 March 2017, 06:21 AM

Looks fine , right down to the original hairlines creeping in !!

A good way to look is with a UV loupe , you'll see during that period tiny crystals of luminous particles and it should be same on hands and dial

ahantel · 5 March 2017, 12:58 PM

@jedly1 and @springer - one thing i was curious about on the OP's hands was the three spokes of the mercedes symbol. Aren't they supposed to be thicker? They seem thinner than the other pictures posted and other tritium sub hands I remember but I'll defer to you. Just curious, thanks!

Vincent65 · 6 March 2017, 06:16 PM

Here you go

3 March 2017, 06:51 AM	#1
KNY "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: TBD Posts: 292	Red Submariner - Luminous material on hands Does anyone have a macro shot of what the luminous material on the hands of a red sub should look like? Is it generally the same as the lume plots on the dial (textured), or should it be smoother and glossy? Sorry for the noob question, I tried to find the answer but I'm coming up empty handed. Thanks all!

3 March 2017, 10:38 AM	#3
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,999	There is often a waffle-like texture to the tritium on the hour plots that will not be present on the hands, mainly because the surface area is much smaller on the hands. The hands should be fairly smooth in texture and matte, like on my '72 5512. (Note the different texture on the hour plots.) Can you post a photo of the dial/hands in question? And by the way, it's not specific to red Subs. Rolex would have used the same technique on other models too. Attached Images

3 March 2017, 01:43 PM	#4
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Here you go. Attached Images __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

3 March 2017, 03:18 PM	#8
KNY "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: TBD Posts: 292	Pic didn't post. This should work. What I thought I was seeing was a bit of that glossiness that was mentioned. Anything look off to anyone? Attached Images

4 March 2017, 07:03 AM	#9
dbhak22 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Daniel Location: PNW Watch: ♛ Posts: 3,063	Here are a couple of my 1680, not a 'red' but the tritium isn't any different, :) __________________ GMT II (16710) \| Explorer I (1016) \| Datejust I (116234) \| Submariner (1680) \| Day-Date (1803) \| Royal Oak (25594) \| FOIS (2998 spec) \| Submariner (16808)

3 March 2017, 07:32 AM	#2
estorlie "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Real Name: Eric Storlie Location: Los Angeles Posts: 18	The luminous material in the hands should look approximately the same as the material on the dial. I'd be careful of anything that has a glossy or "wet" look to it, as this can be a sign of a poor re-lume job.

3 March 2017, 02:37 PM	#5
michael067 Banned Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Mike Location: Las Vegas Watch: TT DJ 16233 Posts: 1,002

3 March 2017, 02:55 PM	#6
V.lats97nsx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Syracuse Posts: 4,109	1665 rail Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

3 March 2017, 03:12 PM	#7
KNY "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: TBD Posts: 292	Thanks for the replies and the pictures guys, this is very helpful. I think I'm feeling a bit better about what I'm seeing here. I tried to take some pictures with my phone but this is the best I could get. Let me know what you think.

5 March 2017, 06:21 AM	#10
jedly1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: mel(oz)/Yorks(uk) Posts: 1,929	Looks fine , right down to the original hairlines creeping in !! A good way to look is with a UV loupe , you'll see during that period tiny crystals of luminous particles and it should be same on hands and dial

5 March 2017, 12:58 PM	#11
ahantel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: USA Watch: 5512, 1016, 1675 Posts: 61	@jedly1 and @springer - one thing i was curious about on the OP's hands was the three spokes of the mercedes symbol. Aren't they supposed to be thicker? They seem thinner than the other pictures posted and other tritium sub hands I remember but I'll defer to you. Just curious, thanks!

6 March 2017, 06:16 PM	#12
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	Here you go Attached Images __________________

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