Q: How does a moron try to sell a terrible frankenwatch?

[WAS]

A: On eBay with shill bids, of course!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/292060170753

[springer]

Originally Posted by WAS

A: On eBay with shill bids, of course!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/292060170753

So who is the moron???? You're killing me -

I think you need to spend more time in the world of vintage before making these posts.

[WAS]

So, I read the other posts on this watch, and it appears the experts all agree the watch is legit! Talk about a barn find. This had all the earmarks of a bogus sale, particularly a sale on eBay from someone with zero feedback as a seller. I agree with whoever made the comment that they would want to close the deal face to face. I guess I still have a lot to learn.

[prolle]

[QUOTE=springer;7463270]So who is the moron???? You're killing me -

I think you need to spend more time in the world of vintage before making these posts.[/


I saw that watch on ebay two day ago and I was going to ask the forum if it was real or not but. I guess it is

[Dr.Smellody]

I could use that bezel!

[Robbyvm]

Originally Posted by WAS

A: On eBay with shill bids, of course!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/292060170753

Funny....

[Exploradori]

Make it 43mm, put a cyclops on it, and call it a homage?


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[Vincent65]

Ooops.

[offrdmania]

Someones foot is in their mouth right now

[harry in montreal]

Just out of curiousity, what did you notice about the watch that led you to believe it was wrong?
I could tell from the first 3 bad pics that it was the real deal.

[1675-David]

The "buy the seller" mantra took a bit of a dive on this one...

[Boopie]

A non-working watch for just under $100k?

[U5512]

Originally Posted by Boopie

A non-working watch for just under $100k?

It's working. If you scroll down to the bottom of the listing, the seller updated or replied to questions from potential buyers and or current bidders. Below is a reply from the seller that was part of the updated listing:

On Mar-22-17 at 14:42:39 PDT, seller added the following information:
Geiger reading from a $50.00 Gieger counter purchased on eBay :
Backround normal radiation 0.10 microSv/hr
Peak reading over watch 41 microSv/hr. RED Danger sign came on.
Shreve's and company 150 Post Street, San Francisco, CA referred Giovanni Passalacqua
Watch and movement authentic according to :
Giovanni Passalaacqua 210 Post St. San Francisco, CA
1-415-982-9830 He is accepting inquires.
He quickly fixed the movement. Second hand now moves.

[Fleetlord]

So out of curiosity, is it wearable or too radioactive?

[CaveDweller]

Below is a chart indicating various exposure levels for 1 full day (24hrs):

0.000003 Sv/hr or 0.00342 mSv/hr or 3.42 uSv/hr [Total:0.082 mSv/day] = Standard background radiation levels
0.000005 Sv/hr or 0.005 mSv/hr or 5.7 uSv/hr [Total: 0.12 mSv/day] = No danger but highest possible safe level
0.00001 Sv/hr or 0.01 mSv/hr or 10 uSv/hr [Total: 0.24 mSv/day] = No short term danger but long term cancer risk
0.001 Sv/hr or 1 mSv/hr or 1,000 uSv/hr [Total: 24 mSv/day] = Long term danger and long term cancer risk
0.0035 Sv/hr or 3.5 mSv/hr or 3,500 uSv/hr [Total: 84 mSv/day] = Long term danger and long term high cancer risk
0.010 Sv/hr or 10 mSv/hr or 10,000 uSv/hr [Total: 240 mSv/day] = Short term danger with little nausea, headache
0.041 Sv/hr or 41 mSv/hr or 41,000 uSv/hr [Total: 1,000 mSv/day] = Immediate danger with mod nausea, headache - 5% death
0.083 Sv/hr or 83 mSv/hr or 83,000 uSv/hr [Total: 2,000 mSv/day] = Severe danger - 5 to 50% death
0.333 Sv/hr or 333 mSv/hr or 333,000 uSv/hr [Total: 8,000 mSv/day] = Extreme danger - 100% death.


http://radiationsurvival.blogspot.co.uk/

Probably not a good idea to scratch your nuts while wearing it ......

[Autavian]

Lol

Hop over to VRF and read the very long conversation on this piece. Buyer found it in an estate and had no idea what he had.

Have to love landing treasures from the watch gods!

[swish77]

The Giovanni mentioned above works at the Rolex Service Center in San Francisco, I believe.

This is a super rare variation. Cool watch, for sure, but I could think of a lot better uses for $100K.

https://tudorcollector.com/subs/submariner-model-7923/

[DGB]

Radioactive watch contaminating to headache and nausea level for $100k ????

Who's going to buy that ?????

[harry in montreal]

It proves that it is authentic, right?

I concur with you and I would not wear it. I am also too scared to ride motorcycles. I don't snack on asbestos.

[CaveDweller]

Makes you wonder about the *Swiss* mark under the dial at 6 o/c -Radium – half life is 1600 years

Also makes you wonder about how many of these original (pre-1958) dials are still around ……..

[Sedalian]

The highlighted reading level from that list is 1000 times higher than the peak reading from the watch in the ad... im sure that there was never a watch produced that would lead to acute radiation poisoning.

Signed, your friendly forum radiation oncologist.

[Thuilln]

The ding on the crystal is only at 5:27. When it's 6:27 there's no ding.
Way to go, champ'.

[jban5]

I wonder what liability the estate sale company might face with this resale? If this was a typical situation where a professional estate sale company was hired to liquidate for the family and the family finds out there is a possibility they could try to recover damages. Estate liquidators are wise to be protected with insurance, ie. malpractice insurance for which this could be argued to be appropriate.

Final bids will go in soon, it will be interesting to see.

I'm going to put a dollar on the number 127

[offrdmania]

Well, it ended at 99,999. I wonder if it will be paid for

[calj_whyte]

Hodinkee just made an article about it :)

[bdex75]

Originally Posted by calj_whyte

Hodinkee just made an article about it :)

And thought it would have sold for more if it for the required paperwork when trying to bid over $100,000. Neat article.


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[harry in montreal]

I like the comment about the estate liq company having liability. Where I reside, these people are super unsophisticated and sketchy. The bottom line is that you never ever sell something without trying to figure out value. If they used a liquidator then they were lazy or just very unlucky. Or both. Sad for them but good on mr eBay seller

[jban5]

I didn't know that there was some extra hoop to jump through above the 100k mark. I'll have to check the write up and see what the Hodinkee says

[Xenophon]

Good Lord, what a staggering price ! Interesting find though