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Rami_m · 6 April 2017, 08:13 PM

I am considering getting a 16710 gmt. And am planning to get it authenticated. Do I just show up to an ad and they would check it on the spot? Do I need to leave it with them? Is there a charge for the service? I am based in Australia if that makes a difference.

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MonBK · 6 April 2017, 08:13 PM

Walk in to your nearest AD and ask them.

Rami_m · 6 April 2017, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Walk in to your nearest AD and ask them.

Lol. Trying to save myself the embarrassment of being told to go away.

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padi56 · 6 April 2017, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rami_m

I am considering getting a 16710 gmt. And am planning to get it authenticated. Do I just show up to an ad and they would check it on the spot? Do I need to leave it with them? Is there a charge for the service? I am based in Australia if that makes a difference.

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If you are buying and need to have it authenticated its telling me that you do not trust the seller always buy the seller then the watch.Many ADs will not do authenticity service best ring first best way to check is get the caseback off.

Rami_m · 6 April 2017, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

If you are buying and need to have it authenticated its telling me that you do not trust the seller always buy the seller then the watch.Many ADs will not do authenticity service best ring first best way to check is get the caseback off.

Dude, even a respected seller on this forum could have got it wrong. Never hurts to double check.

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meganfox17 · 6 April 2017, 08:44 PM

Hi @Rami_m

In Malaysia , for total peace of mind , the Rolex Service Centre in Kuala Lumpur will authenticate the watch purchased from a grey dealer for a nominal fee of ranging from RM 250 - RM 280 ( AUD $ 75 - $ 85).

Apparently Rolex customers must be attended to within 30 mins. Based on my own personel experience , I was given a receipt and informed that the watch would be ready in 14 days but pleasantly surprised upon receiving a call on the 10th day saying the watch was ready for collection.

Heck ! I was informed that opening the back casing alone costs RM100 / ~ AUD $ 30. I also swapped a Coke bezel for a Pepsi and that set me back an additional RM300 / AUD 89

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padi56 · 6 April 2017, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rami_m

Dude, even a respected seller on this forum could have got it wrong. Never hurts to double check.

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First I am not a Dude anyone could get it wrong but always buy the seller first if bought from a non AD source..

Rami_m · 6 April 2017, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

First I am not a Dude anyone could get it wrong but always buy the seller first if bought from a non AD source..

I apologise, I tend to call everybody dude

. I am going off a trusted seller in the vintage list, so am buying the seller in a way, But I will check regardless. Just for peace of mind you know.

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mjclark32 · 6 April 2017, 09:18 PM

If you don't want to walk in, call first

JSolano305 · 6 April 2017, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

If you are buying and need to have it authenticated its telling me that you do not trust the seller always buy the seller then the watch.Many ADs will not do authenticity service best ring first best way to check is get the caseback off.

I agree. I buy my watches from SoHAIS. I know I'm buying real legit watches. I trust him and many here too.

Flywheel · 6 April 2017, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

If you are buying and need to have it authenticated its telling me that you do not trust the seller always buy the seller then the watch.Many ADs will not do authenticity service best ring first best way to check is get the caseback off.

Some people just need assurances beyond the trustworthiness of the seller. Not sure why this is so hard for some members to grasp.

beshannon · 6 April 2017, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Flywheel

Some people just need assurances beyond the trustworthiness of the seller. Not sure why this is so hard for some members to grasp.

Then that is what an authorized dealer is for. Not sure why this is so hard to grasp.

Rami_m · 6 April 2017, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Then that is what an authorized dealer is for. Not sure why this is so hard to grasp.

Well, sometimes the dealer is only interested in selling you a watch and making money. The few bucks to verify things may not be worth their time. I never make the assumption I am entitled to a service.

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ThatSubGuy · 6 April 2017, 10:23 PM

If you have the watch in hand, try setting them time. It should adjust clock-wise. That would be the easiest tell "on sight" if you are otherwise no expert. This doesn't rule out a fake though, so if unsure, then always get it checked by your AD. (If they have an inhouse watchsmith he can quickly pop the back and verify the movement).

MonBK · 6 April 2017, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rami_m

Well, sometimes the dealer is only interested in selling you a watch and making money. The few bucks to verify things may not be worth their time. I never make the assumption I am entitled to a service.

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You have your answer in post #6.

Take it to Kuala Lumpur and be done with it.

Flywheel · 6 April 2017, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Then that is what an authorized dealer is for. Not sure why this is so hard to grasp.

stone_gossard · 6 April 2017, 11:01 PM

maybe after you purchased it then bring to AD and tell them you want to regulate the watch. and they will do it and if they found out something fishy they will tell you and hopefully hey wont confiscated the watch if it is fake.

dpauley · 6 April 2017, 11:07 PM

I have purchased many pre-owned and as a habit I got to my AD and get it authenticated as well as getting an appraisal for insurance. Typically it costs me $100 but the peace of mind is key and then I have what I need to add it to my insurance policy.

Jim P · 6 April 2017, 11:24 PM

I've purchased watches from DavidSW and SOHAIS and never even considered getting it authenticated. Am I being foolish or too trustworthy?

iliketime · 6 April 2017, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JSolano305

I agree. I buy my watches from SoHAIS. I know I'm buying real legit watches. I trust him and many here too.

Yup, went ebay first,

. then after returning that frankenrolex went with sohais

Flywheel · 6 April 2017, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stone_gossard

maybe after you purchased it then bring to AD and tell them you want to regulate the watch. and they will do it and if they found out something fishy they will tell you and hopefully hey wont confiscated the watch if it is fake.

Done the same with pressure testing.

iliketime · 6 April 2017, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stone_gossard

maybe after you purchased it then bring to AD and tell them you want to regulate the watch. and they will do it and if they found out something fishy they will tell you and hopefully hey wont confiscated the watch if it is fake.

i thought only RSC confiscates

AK797 · 7 April 2017, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by iliketime

i thought only RSC confiscates

Yes, not heard of any AD willing to do this which will basically be a case of he said "watchmaker" said, and then the police will probably have to be called by either the AD or the owner, not a good look all round. Even RSC do not always confiscate, they just refuse to work on it. Only if it stolen will they confiscate the watch and hand it over to the police.

mjclark32 · 7 April 2017, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim P

I've purchased watches from DavidSW and SOHAIS and never even considered getting it authenticated. Am I being foolish or too trustworthy?

No, you're fine. I've bought five or so from DSW and no issues. My latest is at RSC right now for a new crystal. They would have let me know by now if there was a problem...

Bluside · 7 April 2017, 12:21 AM

My local AD, which is a big jewelry chain, told me they will not take the back off to authenticate a watch. They would send it out to a RSC.

Just give them a call. I'm sure they won't get upset with you for asking.

blue16613 · 7 April 2017, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rami_m

Well, sometimes the dealer is only interested in selling you a watch and making money. The few bucks to verify things may not be worth their time. I never make the assumption I am entitled to a service.

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Ah!
Finally!
Now it has all come clear and I see the error in my thinking.....

ADs only want to sell you a watch and make money but "trusted sellers" just want to be your friend.

JSolano305 · 7 April 2017, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim P

I've purchased watches from DavidSW and SOHAIS and never even considered getting it authenticated. Am I being foolish or too trustworthy?

Naw you good. I've purchased twice from SoHAIS. You think these 2 sellers here will mess up their reputation over 1 bad watch sale? Highly doubt it. They are good top sellers and what they do puts food on their table. I'm highly confident in them.

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brandrea · 7 April 2017, 12:32 AM

This came up for me just yesterday in a deal I was doing. I contacted RSC here in Toronto. They charge $175 to authenticate and they request 7 business days.

OP sounds like you have your answer.

blue16613 · 7 April 2017, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim P

I've purchased watches from DavidSW and SOHAIS and never even considered getting it authenticated. Am I being foolish or too trustworthy?

I think we all would agree that these guys (and others frequently cited here) would never, ever dream of selling a non-genuine watch.

But, this speaks to intention. And, again, the intentions of those we speak of are always noble.

The question is whether or not it is possible that they could unintentionally sell a piece that is not genuine or has some component which is not authentic?

We can argue this back and forth but maybe we should ask them. Would they, under oath in a court of law, say it is not possible this could happen?

My guess is they would all say of course it is possible.

Does that make them any the less honest or trustworthy. No, of course not.

All one needs to know is that if it ever occurred they'd be there to stand behind their sale.

"Trust but verify!"

AK797 · 7 April 2017, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

This came up for me just yesterday in a deal I was doing. I contacted RSC here in Toronto. They charge $175 to authenticate and they request 7 business days.

OP sounds like you have your answer.

Good to know Brian, hope this extends worldwide, and presumably this does not void the warranty if done by RSC.

6 April 2017, 08:13 PM	#1
Rami_m "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Syd,Aust Posts: 109	Authenticating a used Rolex I am considering getting a 16710 gmt. And am planning to get it authenticated. Do I just show up to an ad and they would check it on the spot? Do I need to leave it with them? Is there a charge for the service? I am based in Australia if that makes a difference. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 April 2017, 09:18 PM	#9
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	If you don't want to walk in, call first __________________

6 April 2017, 08:13 PM	#2
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	Walk in to your nearest AD and ask them.

6 April 2017, 08:44 PM	#6
meganfox17 Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Kuala Lumpur , Ma Posts: 2,011	Hi @Rami_m In Malaysia , for total peace of mind , the Rolex Service Centre in Kuala Lumpur will authenticate the watch purchased from a grey dealer for a nominal fee of ranging from RM 250 - RM 280 ( AUD $ 75 - $ 85). Apparently Rolex customers must be attended to within 30 mins. Based on my own personel experience , I was given a receipt and informed that the watch would be ready in 14 days but pleasantly surprised upon receiving a call on the 10th day saying the watch was ready for collection. Heck ! I was informed that opening the back casing alone costs RM100 / ~ AUD $ 30. I also swapped a Coke bezel for a Pepsi and that set me back an additional RM300 / AUD 89 Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

6 April 2017, 10:23 PM	#14
ThatSubGuy Banned Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Belgium Posts: 473	If you have the watch in hand, try setting them time. It should adjust clock-wise. That would be the easiest tell "on sight" if you are otherwise no expert. This doesn't rule out a fake though, so if unsure, then always get it checked by your AD. (If they have an inhouse watchsmith he can quickly pop the back and verify the movement).

6 April 2017, 11:01 PM	#17
stone_gossard "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Real Name: yusri Location: Osaka & Malaysia Watch: Sub n speed pro Posts: 81	maybe after you purchased it then bring to AD and tell them you want to regulate the watch. and they will do it and if they found out something fishy they will tell you and hopefully hey wont confiscated the watch if it is fake.

6 April 2017, 11:07 PM	#18
dpauley Banned Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Nebraska Watch: Rolex 18038 Posts: 172	I have purchased many pre-owned and as a habit I got to my AD and get it authenticated as well as getting an appraisal for insurance. Typically it costs me $100 but the peace of mind is key and then I have what I need to add it to my insurance policy.

6 April 2017, 11:24 PM	#19
Jim P "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Jim Location: Long Island, NY Watch: Sub,Exp1&2,YM,Milg Posts: 429	I've purchased watches from DavidSW and SOHAIS and never even considered getting it authenticated. Am I being foolish or too trustworthy?

7 April 2017, 12:21 AM	#25
Bluside 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 3,081	My local AD, which is a big jewelry chain, told me they will not take the back off to authenticate a watch. They would send it out to a RSC. Just give them a call. I'm sure they won't get upset with you for asking.

7 April 2017, 12:32 AM	#28
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,097	This came up for me just yesterday in a deal I was doing. I contacted RSC here in Toronto. They charge $175 to authenticate and they request 7 business days. OP sounds like you have your answer.

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