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Old 7 October 2008, 07:27 AM   #1
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Tudor vs Omega

Hi all

I've been asked by a friend which is the better buy? Omega Seamaster or Tudor Sub?

I thought I'd throw it open to the experts. As far as I know the movement in both is the ETA. I understand Omega now owns ETA outright, is this correct...?

I also advised that Tudor will have the quick date change unlike the Omega.

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Old 7 October 2008, 07:36 AM   #2
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I would go with which ever sings to him more... Dose he have acess to both watches? If so have him try them both on and hell know which one.

Personaly i love the history in Omega... I recently fliped a Tudor that i had, to fund my new to me Omega...
Again both excelent choices both will hold there value well but at the end of the day I always know which one i want once it,s on my wrist...
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Old 7 October 2008, 07:44 AM   #3
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I would go with which ever sings to him more... Dose he have acess to both watches? If so have him try them both on and hell know which one.

Personaly i love the history in Omega... I recently fliped a Tudor that i had, to fund my new to me Omega...
Again both excelent choices both will hold there value well but at the end of the day I always know which one i want once it,s on my wrist...
Just my .02

Hi Christopher

In the UK, Tudor's used to be available, but now not so. He's seen a Tudor Sub with a black ceramic bezel at a grey dealer, but I can't find the model anywhere.

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Old 7 October 2008, 08:07 AM   #4
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You posted on the wrong board I think and the mods will probably move the thread, but here's some info:

I think most Seamasters have a quick change date. Here's some data by model. I'm not sure about the new black SmPs. I suspect they are rapid change.

http://www.chronocentric.com/omega/s...shtml#features
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Old 7 October 2008, 08:35 AM   #5
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tudors are by far the better buy!!
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Old 7 October 2008, 08:38 AM   #6
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Rumor has it that Rolex has purchased Sellita and will use their movements in the Tudor line. Anyone else heard this, or can verify or dispel?
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Old 7 October 2008, 09:41 AM   #7
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Hi all

I've been asked by a friend which is the better buy? Omega Seamaster or Tudor Sub?

I thought I'd throw it open to the experts. As far as I know the movement in both is the ETA. I understand Omega now owns ETA outright, is this correct...?

I also advised that Tudor will have the quick date change unlike the Omega.

Thanks in advance

Tony
I would pick tudor ....

I think tudor would offer better and more cost effective servicing to the watch as well .....
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Old 7 October 2008, 09:47 AM   #8
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Old 7 October 2008, 09:50 AM   #9
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I have never owned a Tudor but I used to own a Seamaster and it was a very nice watch, I would recommend the Omega. Omega makes a solid watch and he can find very nice discounts on them brand new.
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Old 7 October 2008, 10:14 AM   #10
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Get the Omega. They are excellent watches!
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Old 7 October 2008, 10:35 AM   #11
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I like the Tudor better than the Seamaster! Of course, I'm biased because I have a Big Block Tudor Chronograph. Tudors are great watches! Setting the time and date on my Tudor is the same as any Rolex with the date. First notch winds the watch, 2nd sets the date, and the third sets the time. (If you think of the fully screwed down position as the 0th notch...) I guess the Tudor Sub works in a similar manner.
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Old 7 October 2008, 12:13 PM   #12
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Hi all

I've been asked by a friend which is the better buy? Omega Seamaster or Tudor Sub?
I think they're both great watches and equally sought after. The Tudor Sub is probably more rare so it could maintain it's value better, I could be wrong though. I've had a Seamaster, though, and I think that for the money, they're excellent watches.


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I thought I'd throw it open to the experts. As far as I know the movement in both is the ETA. I understand Omega now owns ETA outright, is this correct...?
Not exactly. Both ETA and Omega are under the Swatch Group. That's right. Those guys who make those cheap plastic watches owns the worlds largest movement maker as well as some well known brands like Breguet, Glashutte Original, Omega, Longines etc...

Here's a full list:

Swatch Group Brands:

Breguet, Blancpain, Glashütte Original, Jaquet Droz, Léon Hatot, Omega, Tiffany & Co., Longines, Rado, Union Glashütte, Tissot, ck watch & jewelry, Balmain, Certina, Mido, Hamilton, Swatch, Flik Flak, Endura and Tourbillon.

Swatch Group Production Companies:

DYB, ETA, Frédéric Piguet, Valdar, Nivarox-FAR, Comadur, Rubattel et Weyermann, MOM Le Prélet, Deutsche Zifferblatt Manufaktur, Universo, Favre et Perret, Manufacture Ruedin, Lascor, Meco, Swatch Group Assembly, EM Microelectronic, Lasag, Sokymat Automotive, Renata, Microcomponents, Michel Präzisionstechnik, Micro Crystal, Oscilloquartz and Swiss Timing.
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Old 7 October 2008, 02:30 PM   #13
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I would either go with tudor or go with any number of other companies that offer an ETA movement in a nice diver case at half or more less than a discounted omega.

Omega with the exception of original speedmasters does not do much for me. Their seamaster with the exception of the planet has a bezel that is almost impossibe to turn or grip dry, let alone wet.
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Old 7 October 2008, 04:00 PM   #14
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I believe that the latest Seamasters are all equipped with Omega's new Coaxial movement, which although built on an ETA base, is modified in such a way as to require much less maintenance and thus leads to longer intervals between servicings. Both of course are good watches, so he should choose on the basis of which appeals to him more.
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Old 7 October 2008, 04:22 PM   #15
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True --- however I am not enough of a watchmaker to be able to comment on the coaxial escapement; it does seem well regarded by those in the know.

However the maintance interval thing is not something I buy into. Given that a rollie without a ball bearing rotor AND a traditional escapement can easily go 5 years, how much longer do we expect a watch to go?

And how long do we expect the lube on the escapement and other parts of the watch to last? Even the best lubes break down eventually and there is friction other places aside from the escapement.

So I respect and embrace the co-axial escapement bit don't believe in a free lunch, were I wearing a coaxial it would get a clean / oil every 4-5 years no matter what.
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Old 7 October 2008, 07:27 PM   #16
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Out of interest guys, what movement to the current Tudor's use - a Rolex movement or ETA ?
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Old 8 October 2008, 06:10 AM   #17
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Out of interest guys, what movement to the current Tudor's use - a Rolex movement or ETA ?
ETA, Tudors never used a Rolex movement.
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I like the Tudor better than the Seamaster! Of course, I'm biased because I have a Big Block Tudor Chronograph. Tudors are great watches! Setting the time and date on my Tudor is the same as any Rolex with the date. First notch winds the watch, 2nd sets the date, and the third sets the time. (If you think of the fully screwed down position as the 0th notch...) I guess the Tudor Sub works in a similar manner.
Both are good values but I'm w/ Craig on this.
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As a Rolex owner I would be be inclined to go with the Omega, based purely on the different look to my existing watch.
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Old 8 October 2008, 10:15 AM   #20
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You didn't say which Seamaster - it's a very broad line. The classic "Bond" and equivalent Seamasters with the cal. 1120 movement are excellent COSC timekeepers and excellent values. The Tudor is probably a lot less common, though, so if that's a factor that might be the way to go. Hard to make a bad choice between the two.
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I like the Tudor due to the Rolex association.

I have an Omega and it is a wonderful timepiece. To be totally truthful, you can't go wrong with either.
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Old 9 October 2008, 02:00 AM   #22
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Thanks everyone

Thanks to everyone for their input & advice.

The original Tudor he was after has been sold, so he's going to hang on now until Christmas, to see what arrives in the same dealer.

He reckon's he's 99% sure he'll go for the Tudor Sub unless a REALLY great deal comes up on an Omega.

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Thanks everyone

Thanks to everyone for their input & advice.

The original Tudor he was after has been sold, so he's going to hang on now until Christmas, to see what arrives in the same dealer.

He reckon's he's 99% sure he'll go for the Tudor Sub unless a REALLY great deal comes up on an Omega.

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Old 9 October 2008, 02:01 AM   #24
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Thanks everyone

Thanks to everyone for their input & advice.

The original Tudor he was after has been sold, so he's going to hang on now until Christmas, to see what arrives in the same dealer.

He reckon's he's 99% sure he'll go for the Tudor Sub unless a REALLY great deal comes up on an Omega.

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