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sirish19 · 25 July 2017, 01:46 AM

Following a recent business trip to Europe, I found that one of my watches began running fast, really fast. I carried 4 watches on my trip, Rolex Sub Ceramic (which I wore on my wrist on the airplane and through all security points) and a Vacheron Constantin Patrimony, Patek Philippe 5146G Annual Calendar and AP 15202ST in a watch roll that was put through the x-ray machines. After returning from this trip, my VC was running fast by about 1 minute per day. The rest were running fine. I took the watch in to VC today and they confirmed that the watch was magnetized and was running 1 minute/day fast. Fortunately, they were able to demagnetize it free of charge and it is running within spec again. They suggested that the most probably culprit was going through security at the airport.

Has anyone experienced this before? Where a watch got magnetized and began keeping erratic time? I am curious why it was only the VC that was magnetized (the AP Jumbo is also an ultra-thin movement) and not the others.

Shaky · 25 July 2017, 01:50 AM

Not sure actually, my watches have been through the rapids an machines a few times with no problem. That could just be luck though. Was there anything else in you bag ?? Travel speaker or iPad with magnetic cover on it ??

sirish19 · 25 July 2017, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaky

Not sure actually, my watches have been through the rapids an machines a few times with no problem. That could just be luck though. Was there anything else in you bag ?? Travel speaker or iPad with magnetic cover on it ??

Thanks. One thing that I can think of, I did have the watch roll in my camera bag and I also had a magnetic car mount holder in the bag along with it. Could it have been that that magnet was strong enough and that it was positioned close to the VC enough to magnetize it?? That would be very interesting.

MonBK · 25 July 2017, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sirish19

Thanks. One thing that I can think of, I did have the watch roll in my camera bag and I also had a magnetic car mount holder in the bag along with it. Could it have been that that magnet was strong enough and that it was positioned close to the VC enough to magnetize it?? That would be very interesting.

If it really was magnetized it would run a lot faster then a minute a day.

SeaDweller50 · 25 July 2017, 02:07 AM

Agreed. Why is is that any watch running a little fast must have been magnetised. It would take an extremely strong magnetic field to affect a modern day Rolex. None that you would ever come into contact with at an airport.

Shaky · 25 July 2017, 02:10 AM

I mentioned the iPad case because it has been brought up on here before. I would envisage that being a lot smaller magnet than your car mount.

At least it's fixed now.

socalwatchcollector · 25 July 2017, 02:13 AM

Agree with Airborne and MonBK, I just don't see this as a magnetic issue regardless of what the AD said.

MonBK · 25 July 2017, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by socalwatchcollector

Agree with Airborne and MonBK, I just don't see this as a magnetic issue regardless of what the AD said.

What an AD says and my cat poops I usually put on the same pile.

904VT · 25 July 2017, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Airborne

Agreed. Why is is that any watch running a little fast must have been magnetised. It would take an extremely strong magnetic field to affect a modern day Rolex. None that you would ever come into contact with at an airport.

It wasn't the Rolex per the OP

904VT · 25 July 2017, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sirish19

Following a recent business trip to Europe, I found that one of my watches began running fast, really fast. I carried 4 watches on my trip, Rolex Sub Ceramic (which I wore on my wrist on the airplane and through all security points) and a Vacheron Constantin Patrimony, Patek Philippe 5146G Annual Calendar and AP 15202ST in a watch roll that was put through the x-ray machines. After returning from this trip, my VC was running fast by about 1 minute per day. The rest were running fine. I took the watch in to VC today and they confirmed that the watch was magnetized and was running 1 minute/day fast. Fortunately, they were able to demagnetize it free of charge and it is running within spec again. They suggested that the most probably culprit was going through security at the airport.

Has anyone experienced this before? Where a watch got magnetized and began keeping erratic time? I am curious why it was only the VC that was magnetized (the AP Jumbo is also an ultra-thin movement) and not the others.

The AP 2121 is a full rotor movement, but the Patrimony's 1400 is manual wind. I don't know the thickness of the case walls on both, but I'd imagine the Patrimony to be thinner and less protective of all things magnetic, shock, temperature etc., probably making it a little more delicate overall.

Sorry, to hear about your VC, hope you get it fixed to your liking asap

Great collection of pieces btw

watchucallit · 25 July 2017, 02:41 AM

Not necessarily true.. The degree which a watch can be magnetized is not binary. Different degrees depending on exposure

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Originally Posted by MonBK

If it really was magnetized it would run a lot faster then a minute a day.

jsg1976 · 25 July 2017, 02:47 AM

Sorry to hear of the experience. Congrats on a great collection though. But no GMT watches on your travels?

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904VT · 25 July 2017, 02:51 AM

Forgot to mention your Patek has that awesome (IMO) Gyromax

qhbl · 25 July 2017, 02:58 AM

Every time I walk past a hot looking bird, my whole body gets magentized!!

BiH115 · 25 July 2017, 03:20 AM

Interesting account, thanks for sharing!

Not that related, but we just recently went to Europe, and this being my first Rolex (BLNR), I was completely paranoid of how the TSA process would go. I ended up stowing the watch in the CASEBUDi I brought along prior to the checkpoint, for fear of having to take it off and throwing it into a crate where it would be tossed around and scratched to hell. Can anyone confirm if our watches make the detectors go off? Does TSA make you take it off for any reason?

padi56 · 25 July 2017, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

If it really was magnetized it would run a lot faster then a minute a day.

Have to agree but there could be several degrees of being magnetised and very unlikely it was any airport Xray machine.

Shaky · 25 July 2017, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BiH115

Interesting account, thanks for sharing!

Not that related, but we just recently went to Europe, and this being my first Rolex (BLNR), I was completely paranoid of how the TSA process would go. I ended up stowing the watch in the CASEBUDi I brought along prior to the checkpoint, for fear of having to take it off and throwing it into a crate where it would be tossed around and scratched to hell. Can anyone confirm if our watches make the detectors go off? Does TSA make you take it off for any reason?

I have taken off many times and not had a problem with it stowed safely in my man bag.
I have also forgotten before and walked through the metal arches and there wasn't a problem either. Thought that was odd as it's quite a chunk of metal, so they must have been turned down quite a bit

toxicavenger · 25 July 2017, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

If it really was magnetized it would run a lot faster then a minute a day.

I use to think that also, we just serviced two watches that got magnetized in shipping with USPS. One was 20 seconds a day and the other was 13 seconds a day. Both customers had them demagnetized locally and they were perfect afterwards. So it wasn't true in both of these cases.

sirish19 · 25 July 2017, 09:17 AM

Well, the AD tested it, said it was magnetized a bit, did something to it that he called "demagnetized" and now it is running within spec again. I am not exactly sure why they would lie about the magnetization and what else they could have done so quickly to get it back in order.

904VT is correct, the Patrimony is a manual wind and is an extremely thin case with no rotor or other to protect it.

I think it must have been car mount magnet as that is quite a strong magnet (capable of holding an iPhone 7).

socalwatchcollector · 25 July 2017, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

What an AD says and my cat poops I usually put on the same pile.

texasmade · 25 July 2017, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BiH115

Interesting account, thanks for sharing!

Not that related, but we just recently went to Europe, and this being my first Rolex (BLNR), I was completely paranoid of how the TSA process would go. I ended up stowing the watch in the CASEBUDi I brought along prior to the checkpoint, for fear of having to take it off and throwing it into a crate where it would be tossed around and scratched to hell. Can anyone confirm if our watches make the detectors go off? Does TSA make you take it off for any reason?

I never take off my AP 15400 when walking through TSA. Same when I would wear my Omega Seamaster 300M diver. Detector never went off so I assume your Rolex won't set it off either.

sirish19 · 25 July 2017, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jsg1976

Sorry to hear of the experience. Congrats on a great collection though. But no GMT watches on your travels?

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Thanks. As I was visiting Switzerland and was going to take a tour of the AP factory and also visit the Museums of Patek and VC, I wanted to take watches from those respective brand on the trip. That left me with needing a beater for the flight so I was debating between the 16710 GMT Master II or my ceramic sub. Since I was in Europe for about three weeks I didn't necessarily need to jump back-and-forth between time zones so I went with the sub as it was a little more sturdy.

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sirish19 · 25 July 2017, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BiH115

Interesting account, thanks for sharing!

Not that related, but we just recently went to Europe, and this being my first Rolex (BLNR), I was completely paranoid of how the TSA process would go. I ended up stowing the watch in the CASEBUDi I brought along prior to the checkpoint, for fear of having to take it off and throwing it into a crate where it would be tossed around and scratched to hell. Can anyone confirm if our watches make the detectors go off? Does TSA make you take it off for any reason?

I generally wear my watch when I am going through security unless they ask me to take it off. Then I will put it in my bag and have it run through the machine. I usually wouldn't put it on one of those little plastic trays. I found that some countries require you to take it off while others don't.

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jsg1976 · 25 July 2017, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sirish19

Thanks. As I was visiting Switzerland and was going to take a tour of the AP factory and also visit the Museums of Patek and VC, I wanted to take watches from those respective brand on the trip. That left me with needing a beater for the flight so I was debating between the 16710 GMT Master II or my ceramic sub. Since I was in Europe for about three weeks I didn't necessarily need to jump back-and-forth between time zones so I went with the sub as it was a little more sturdy.

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That sounds like an amazing trip!

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watchluxus · 25 July 2017, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sirish19

Following a recent business trip to Europe, I found that one of my watches began running fast, really fast. I carried 4 watches on my trip, Rolex Sub Ceramic (which I wore on my wrist on the airplane and through all security points) and a Vacheron Constantin Patrimony, Patek Philippe 5146G Annual Calendar and AP 15202ST in a watch roll that was put through the x-ray machines. After returning from this trip, my VC was running fast by about 1 minute per day. The rest were running fine. I took the watch in to VC today and they confirmed that the watch was magnetized and was running 1 minute/day fast. Fortunately, they were able to demagnetize it free of charge and it is running within spec again. They suggested that the most probably culprit was going through security at the airport.

Has anyone experienced this before? Where a watch got magnetized and began keeping erratic time? I am curious why it was only the VC that was magnetized (the AP Jumbo is also an ultra-thin movement) and not the others.

Out of curiosity, how long must a business trip be in order to warrant carrying 100K+ in watches?

sirish19 · 25 July 2017, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by watchluxus

Out of curiosity, how long must a business trip be in order to warrant carrying 100K+ in watches?

Haha, yeah, that was a bit excessive and I wouldn't do it again but since it was my first trip to Switzerland, I wanted those watches to see their birthplace. :-)

I normally just travel with my AP Jumbo or PP Annual Calendar (depending on the weather) and a Rolex beater.

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sirish19 · 25 July 2017, 09:42 PM

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That sounds like an amazing trip!

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Yes, it was absolutely amazing and the highlight was definitely the tour of the AP factory. I have an overview of my trip with pics posted in the AP forum, check it out when you have some time.

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BiH115 · 25 July 2017, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sirish19

I generally wear my watch when I am going through security unless they ask me to take it off. Then I will put it in my bag and have it run through the machine. I usually wouldn't put it on one of those little plastic trays. I found that some countries require you to take it off while others don't.

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That's good information to know, appreciate it. I think I'll just continue to store it in the watch case before I walk up to the detectors, just seems like less hassle that way.

sirish19 · 25 July 2017, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 904VT

Great collection of pieces btw

Thanks, a lot of enablers on TRF have positively influenced my collection and negatively influenced my bank account.

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sirish19 · 25 July 2017, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 904VT

The AP 2121 is a full rotor movement, but the Patrimony's 1400 is manual wind. I don't know the thickness of the case walls on both, but I'd imagine the Patrimony to be thinner and less protective of all things magnetic, shock, temperature etc., probably making it a little more delicate overall.

Sorry, to hear about your VC, hope you get it fixed to your liking asap

Great collection of pieces btw

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25 July 2017, 01:46 AM	#1
sirish19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Stephen Location: Tokyo Watch: PP-VC-AP Posts: 1,003	Watch magnetized at airport?? Following a recent business trip to Europe, I found that one of my watches began running fast, really fast. I carried 4 watches on my trip, Rolex Sub Ceramic (which I wore on my wrist on the airplane and through all security points) and a Vacheron Constantin Patrimony, Patek Philippe 5146G Annual Calendar and AP 15202ST in a watch roll that was put through the x-ray machines. After returning from this trip, my VC was running fast by about 1 minute per day. The rest were running fine. I took the watch in to VC today and they confirmed that the watch was magnetized and was running 1 minute/day fast. Fortunately, they were able to demagnetize it free of charge and it is running within spec again. They suggested that the most probably culprit was going through security at the airport. Has anyone experienced this before? Where a watch got magnetized and began keeping erratic time? I am curious why it was only the VC that was magnetized (the AP Jumbo is also an ultra-thin movement) and not the others. __________________

25 July 2017, 02:58 AM	#14
qhbl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: UK Posts: 150	Every time I walk past a hot looking bird, my whole body gets magentized!! __________________ Current Collection: Rolex Submariner Yellow Gold Black Dial 116618LN - 2016

25 July 2017, 09:17 AM	#19
sirish19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Stephen Location: Tokyo Watch: PP-VC-AP Posts: 1,003	Well, the AD tested it, said it was magnetized a bit, did something to it that he called "demagnetized" and now it is running within spec again. I am not exactly sure why they would lie about the magnetization and what else they could have done so quickly to get it back in order. 904VT is correct, the Patrimony is a manual wind and is an extremely thin case with no rotor or other to protect it. I think it must have been car mount magnet as that is quite a strong magnet (capable of holding an iPhone 7). __________________

25 July 2017, 01:50 AM	#2
Shaky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: UK Posts: 1,125	Not sure actually, my watches have been through the rapids an machines a few times with no problem. That could just be luck though. Was there anything else in you bag ?? Travel speaker or iPad with magnetic cover on it ??

25 July 2017, 02:07 AM	#5
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	Agreed. Why is is that any watch running a little fast must have been magnetised. It would take an extremely strong magnetic field to affect a modern day Rolex. None that you would ever come into contact with at an airport.

25 July 2017, 02:10 AM	#6
Shaky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: UK Posts: 1,125	I mentioned the iPad case because it has been brought up on here before. I would envisage that being a lot smaller magnet than your car mount. At least it's fixed now.

25 July 2017, 02:13 AM	#7
socalwatchcollector "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: John Location: newport beach Watch: Pateks Plural Posts: 1,620	Agree with Airborne and MonBK, I just don't see this as a magnetic issue regardless of what the AD said.

25 July 2017, 02:47 AM	#12
jsg1976 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Chicago Posts: 247	Sorry to hear of the experience. Congrats on a great collection though. But no GMT watches on your travels? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 July 2017, 02:51 AM	#13
904VT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: All Rolex Posts: 7,024	Forgot to mention your Patek has that awesome (IMO) Gyromax

25 July 2017, 03:20 AM	#15
BiH115 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: NH Watch: your mouth! Posts: 384	Interesting account, thanks for sharing! Not that related, but we just recently went to Europe, and this being my first Rolex (BLNR), I was completely paranoid of how the TSA process would go. I ended up stowing the watch in the CASEBUDi I brought along prior to the checkpoint, for fear of having to take it off and throwing it into a crate where it would be tossed around and scratched to hell. Can anyone confirm if our watches make the detectors go off? Does TSA make you take it off for any reason?

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