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j.mo · 29 July 2017, 04:49 AM

I have a question about the durability of my sub.
I ordered an 116610 from thanh a few months ago in April. It's been a daily wearer for me, to work, out, wherever.
I try and avoid any contact with it to avoid as many scratches and blemishes as possible. But I'm noticing a few. I thought this 904 stainless was virtually indestructible? So is this thing the real deal or what. Because I know the replicas use a softer inferior stainless. I've not yet had it authenticated because I've taken the good word of the many trusted members here.
So can someone help me out and explain the expectations?

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dmash · 29 July 2017, 04:53 AM

because your watch simply has surface marks on it...........after wearing it every day for 3 months......you are beginning to think that one of the most trusted sellers here on TRF sold you a fake?

Leodagan · 29 July 2017, 04:54 AM

904L contains more nickel and chromium, and better corrosion point view. But, is less hardener than 316L and in plus that less bilogicaly neutral for pepole alergic to the Nikel. I think....

DCheeta · 29 July 2017, 04:55 AM

If you got it from Thanh it's real, I promise.

All metal will scratch. Why would you think otherwise?

FTX I · 29 July 2017, 04:57 AM

Don't worry about authenticity if you bought from Thanh. If you want to collect less scratches just be more careful. I don't baby my watches and they all look pristine.

singe89 · 29 July 2017, 04:58 AM

It's a tool watch. Scratches come with the territory.

Quicksilver · 29 July 2017, 04:59 AM

904 stainless steel is not indestructible and will pick up scratches and dings. This is normal - don't worry. The advantage of 904 steel is that it's easy for Rolex to polish out the scratches when they service the watch. Perhaps this is what's confused you

joli160 · 29 July 2017, 05:02 AM

The only watch that does not scratch is the one you keep in the safe and never wear

cdmorenot · 29 July 2017, 05:02 AM

If your Submariner doesn't have scratches or dings after wearing it everyday, you are not living my friend.

If that thing came from Thanh - It is the real deal. As trustworthy as they come.

beshannon · 29 July 2017, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.mo

So can someone help me out and explain the expectations?

No I cannot sorry.

All metal scratches. All of it.

KBM · 29 July 2017, 05:05 AM

The durability of a sub is measured in lifetimes. However, it will scratch, nick and dent, as any other object crafted from any metal existing on this planet.

You know what hasn't been known to scratch, nick and dent? Thanh's reputation.

Mystro · 29 July 2017, 05:08 AM

904 stainless steel is a bit softer but polishes better than any other steel. Its a trade off but 904L is by far the brightest SS steel on the market.

Bigblu10 · 29 July 2017, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joli160

The only watch that does not scratch is the one you keep in the safe and never wear

X2. If you wear it, battle scars will happen no matter what.

Chewbacca · 29 July 2017, 05:27 AM

it'll last longer than you.

Shaky · 29 July 2017, 05:32 AM

I have a gold ring, it will last me a lifetime, it still has scratches all over it.

Think of it this way, if you bought a new BMW and after three months it had a few scratches on it, would you be wondering if it was a fake or any less of a car.

BristolCavendish · 29 July 2017, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.mo

I thought this 904 stainless was virtually indestructible?

Sturdy yes, scratchproof no. Try not to lose any sleep over it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by singe89

It's a tool watch. Scratches come with the territory.

^^^^^
Would you expect a brand new pair of dark glasses (or a pen) to remain in pristine condition over a period of regular usage? Highly unlikely.

BiH115 · 29 July 2017, 05:42 AM

You'll just have to get used to it, and honestly, try to embrace it. A watch with a few scratches and dings here/there is a watch that was worn, but worn by YOU. You should be proud to be the only one wearing it, and making memories with your expensive friend.

Thatguy · 29 July 2017, 05:42 AM

Bring to AD if you are worried about authenticity. And yes they will scratch but will clean up like new at first service if so desired.

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henry333 · 29 July 2017, 05:46 AM

The steel is pretty much the same hardness as the regular SS. There's a minimum difference but in real life it's not that big. Even platinum get dinged and scratches

sager · 29 July 2017, 05:47 AM

Scratches, nicks and scuffs are part of watch ownership.

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GRB · 29 July 2017, 05:51 AM

Even though you bought from a trusted seller, you should have
had it authenticated immediately . Even if just for your own peace
of mind . I have no doubt your watch is authentic, as Thanh has a
pristine reputation .
No watch will not get scratches. When it's due for service , it will come
back like new and you can start the cycle all over again.

Sailaway68 · 29 July 2017, 05:54 AM

I have the same ref, and wear it in rotation, equally. One of the others on rotation is an in house Tudor Heritage Black Bay on one of the rivitted bracelets. Both are subjected to the same wrist time and circumstances........ over time the Tudor (non 904) has far far fewer surface marks, with the SubC clasp in particular looking a bit beaten ovrr just a few months. The Tudor is still prestine. Both from AD's....

Rashid.bk · 29 July 2017, 05:54 AM

Sub durability.....
Lol

Check the for sale ads, there are 30+ year old Subs for sale.
That should answer your question.

Melchizedek · 29 July 2017, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.mo

I have a question about the durability of my sub.
I ordered an 116610 from thanh a few months ago in April. It's been a daily wearer for me, to work, out, wherever.
I try and avoid any contact with it to avoid as many scratches and blemishes as possible. But I'm noticing a few. I thought this 904 stainless was virtually indestructible? So is this thing the real deal or what. Because I know the replicas use a softer inferior stainless. I've not yet had it authenticated because I've taken the good word of the many trusted members here.
So can someone help me out and explain the expectations?

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Hahah! Did you watch the YouTube ad for 904?
[youtube]9UuDJl93Z1g[/youtube]

It will get scratched, this is my desk diving for like 3 years Sub. I think my desk is formica.

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ericmli825 · 29 July 2017, 05:58 AM

I bought all my watches from AD and I can tell you it's very easy to scratch the steel bracelet. It's not indestructible haha

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torifile · 29 July 2017, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joli160

The only watch that does not scratch is the one you keep in the safe and never wear

You haven't had the pleasure of a Damasko then. Those things are nearly scratch-proof.

Melchizedek · 29 July 2017, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by torifile

You haven't had the pleasure of a Damasko then. Those things are nearly scratch-proof.

I can vouch for that!! I tripped and accidentally smacked my hand against a concrete column and I looked for like 5 mins for a scratch and I found nothing. I don't know what witchcraft they use but it works

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mjclark32 · 29 July 2017, 06:30 AM

Relax. It's real and it can take a beating, but it'll scratch.
You'd probably have a heart attack if you saw my 6.5 year old sub

Tony64 · 29 July 2017, 07:31 AM

And this is why you never, NEVER, remove the stickers. Rolex goes thru all the trouble to put them there so that your Sub will never scratch and people just remove them?

Unfortunately I'm afraid there's not much that can be done at this point, just throw it out and start over.

watchwatcher · 29 July 2017, 07:44 AM

You've questioned the authenticity of a watch you bought from a highly trusted seller because...it has scratches?

Speechless.

29 July 2017, 04:49 AM	#1
j.mo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: California Posts: 153	Sub durability I have a question about the durability of my sub. I ordered an 116610 from thanh a few months ago in April. It's been a daily wearer for me, to work, out, wherever. I try and avoid any contact with it to avoid as many scratches and blemishes as possible. But I'm noticing a few. I thought this 904 stainless was virtually indestructible? So is this thing the real deal or what. Because I know the replicas use a softer inferior stainless. I've not yet had it authenticated because I've taken the good word of the many trusted members here. So can someone help me out and explain the expectations? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk

29 July 2017, 04:59 AM	#7
Quicksilver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: David Location: London+Guangzhou Watch: ing watches Posts: 2,603	904 stainless steel is not indestructible and will pick up scratches and dings. This is normal - don't worry. The advantage of 904 steel is that it's easy for Rolex to polish out the scratches when they service the watch. Perhaps this is what's confused you __________________ Rolex Sea Dweller 116600, GMT Master II 16710 (Pepsi) and 116710 BLNR, Daytona 116500LN, Submariner 14060M.

29 July 2017, 05:02 AM	#8
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,759	The only watch that does not scratch is the one you keep in the safe and never wear __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

29 July 2017, 05:02 AM	#9
cdmorenot 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Carlos. Location: NNJ - MDE Watch: = Want them all. Posts: 3,697	If your Submariner doesn't have scratches or dings after wearing it everyday, you are not living my friend. If that thing came from Thanh - It is the real deal. As trustworthy as they come. __________________ \| Breguet \| Cartier \| Casio \| Hublot \| IWC \| Omega \| Rolex \| Seiko \|

29 July 2017, 05:08 AM	#12
Mystro 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,511	904 stainless steel is a bit softer but polishes better than any other steel. Its a trade off but 904L is by far the brightest SS steel on the market. __________________

29 July 2017, 04:53 AM	#2
dmash Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA <> BKK Posts: 6,160	because your watch simply has surface marks on it...........after wearing it every day for 3 months......you are beginning to think that one of the most trusted sellers here on TRF sold you a fake?

29 July 2017, 04:54 AM	#3
Leodagan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: belgium Posts: 229	904L contains more nickel and chromium, and better corrosion point view. But, is less hardener than 316L and in plus that less bilogicaly neutral for pepole alergic to the Nikel. I think....

29 July 2017, 04:55 AM	#4
DCheeta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 7,181	If you got it from Thanh it's real, I promise. All metal will scratch. Why would you think otherwise?

29 July 2017, 04:57 AM	#5
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Don't worry about authenticity if you bought from Thanh. If you want to collect less scratches just be more careful. I don't baby my watches and they all look pristine.

29 July 2017, 04:58 AM	#6
singe89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: Orange County, CA Watch: Rolex, AP & Patek Posts: 3,747	It's a tool watch. Scratches come with the territory.

29 July 2017, 05:05 AM	#11
KBM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,460	The durability of a sub is measured in lifetimes. However, it will scratch, nick and dent, as any other object crafted from any metal existing on this planet. You know what hasn't been known to scratch, nick and dent? Thanh's reputation.

29 July 2017, 05:27 AM	#14
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	it'll last longer than you.

29 July 2017, 05:32 AM	#15
Shaky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: UK Posts: 1,125	I have a gold ring, it will last me a lifetime, it still has scratches all over it. Think of it this way, if you bought a new BMW and after three months it had a few scratches on it, would you be wondering if it was a fake or any less of a car.

29 July 2017, 05:42 AM	#17
BiH115 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: NH Watch: your mouth! Posts: 384	You'll just have to get used to it, and honestly, try to embrace it. A watch with a few scratches and dings here/there is a watch that was worn, but worn by YOU. You should be proud to be the only one wearing it, and making memories with your expensive friend.

29 July 2017, 05:42 AM	#18
Thatguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Wayne Location: California Watch: Rolex, PAM Posts: 3,302	Bring to AD if you are worried about authenticity. And yes they will scratch but will clean up like new at first service if so desired. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

29 July 2017, 05:46 AM	#19
henry333 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Hendricks Location: USA Watch: 116600 Posts: 826	The steel is pretty much the same hardness as the regular SS. There's a minimum difference but in real life it's not that big. Even platinum get dinged and scratches

29 July 2017, 05:47 AM	#20
sager "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Sage Location: MENA Posts: 1,563	Scratches, nicks and scuffs are part of watch ownership. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

29 July 2017, 05:51 AM	#21
GRB "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Glenn Location: DFW Watch: SubC Date Posts: 106	Even though you bought from a trusted seller, you should have had it authenticated immediately . Even if just for your own peace of mind . I have no doubt your watch is authentic, as Thanh has a pristine reputation . No watch will not get scratches. When it's due for service , it will come back like new and you can start the cycle all over again.

29 July 2017, 05:54 AM	#22
Sailaway68 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Bordeaux, France Watch: SubCLV. SubCNodate Posts: 64	I have the same ref, and wear it in rotation, equally. One of the others on rotation is an in house Tudor Heritage Black Bay on one of the rivitted bracelets. Both are subjected to the same wrist time and circumstances........ over time the Tudor (non 904) has far far fewer surface marks, with the SubC clasp in particular looking a bit beaten ovrr just a few months. The Tudor is still prestine. Both from AD's.... Last edited by Sailaway68; 29 July 2017 at 05:55 AM.. Reason: spelling

29 July 2017, 05:54 AM	#23
Rashid.bk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Watch: 12800ft = 3900m Posts: 11,173	Sub durability..... Lol Check the for sale ads, there are 30+ year old Subs for sale. That should answer your question.

29 July 2017, 05:58 AM	#25
ericmli825 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Eric Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 172	I bought all my watches from AD and I can tell you it's very easy to scratch the steel bracelet. It's not indestructible haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

29 July 2017, 06:30 AM	#28
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Relax. It's real and it can take a beating, but it'll scratch. You'd probably have a heart attack if you saw my 6.5 year old sub __________________

29 July 2017, 07:31 AM	#29
Tony64 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,796	And this is why you never, NEVER, remove the stickers. Rolex goes thru all the trouble to put them there so that your Sub will never scratch and people just remove them? Unfortunately I'm afraid there's not much that can be done at this point, just throw it out and start over.

29 July 2017, 07:44 AM	#30
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,047	You've questioned the authenticity of a watch you bought from a highly trusted seller because...it has scratches? Speechless.

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