Obtaining an A. Lange & Sohne: Multiple watch Trade Musings...

[Speed]

OK...

I do NOT normally post these sort of threads, so perhaps I feel a bit entitled. Lord knows I've read enough "help me decide" and this or that threads over the years...so please indulge me / delight me with your thoughts.

Considering trading a Blue Dial AP Royal Oak 15300 + a Milgauss GV toward a pre-owned White Gold A. Lange & Sohne 1815 Up / Down. All watches are in great condition. The AP of course, has a few (very light) unavoidable scuffs on the bezel. I think these appeared after I stared at the watch too long.

I love both the AP & Millie...but have also been in love with Lange for some time.

I know I would have a *very* tough time ever replacing the AP as it is discontinued and the Blue Dial seems to get more rare. The Millie is pretty garden variety, and I like it as well. Both watches are not seen in the wild as often as others, which is another reason for the appeal. The Lange would fall in this category.

The Lange is gorgeous...simple / time only & hand wound. As it is pre-owned, it has already taken its deprecation hit. At 39mm, it is a great size and heirloom worthy as well.

It is a pure dress watch, but surely I could wear it with everything I would have worn the AP / Millie with...

At any rate, thoughts appreciated.

Cheers.

[dmash]

Absolutely would do that. The 1815, esp the Up/Down is amazing. Glad to see it's a newer one with the improved case size too, the 35mm model was too small. Only thing I'd say though, is that on the wrist it does wear quite 'dressy', moreso than both the AP and Milgauss. Those bold black numbers give the entire watch a retro, 'gentleman' like feel on the wrist, as in only worn with collars and cuffs. I wouldn't see it being appropriate with shorts and a tshirt, whereas the AP and Milgauss are completely fine.

[Manofsteelpt]

The 1815 is a BEAUTIFUL piece! Idk the values of them, but, love the piece and would do the trade if the value is right. That's said, I've been contemplating trading my AP towards a Dato or Zeitwerk, and, as i do with all my watches, I'd wear it with anything (I'm usually in gym clothes).

[Speed]

Originally Posted by dmash

Absolutely would do that. The 1815, esp the Up/Down is amazing. Glad to see it's a newer one with the improved case size too, the 35mm model was too small. Only thing I'd say though, is that on the wrist it does wear quite 'dressy', moreso than both the AP and Milgauss. Those bold black numbers give the entire watch a retro, 'gentleman' like feel on the wrist, as in only worn with collars and cuffs. I wouldn't see it being appropriate with shorts and a tshirt, whereas the AP and Milgauss are completely fine.

Thank you for your comments.

Agreed - no shorts / T-shirts. I think jeans + a long sleeve shirt (collars & cuffs) would work.

I do find it so hard to let go of watches. I have done 1 trade since entering WISdom. In fact, it was a DJ for the Milgauss. Something tells me I would miss the AP a fair bit. Aaargh!

[Minimalist]

I hate trading watches and learnt this the hard way after I traded my Explorer and black bay red for my DJII, I still own the DJII and love it but I miss the two I traded and they're aren't nearly as hard to come by as your 15300. If it were me I would at the very least keep the AP, trade the milgauss with cash on top for the ALS.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

The 1815 is a BEAUTIFUL piece! Idk the values of them, but, love the piece and would do the trade if the value is right. That's said, I've been contemplating trading my AP towards a Dato or Zeitwerk, and, as i do with all my watches, I'd wear it with anything (I'm usually in gym clothes).

Langes do seem to take a boot to the groin when sold in the secondary market. Which is one reason I would not want to pay retail for a new one. I think the price is much more south-moving that say Rolex...and even the 15300 which is discontinued still seems to fetch a high price - especially the blue dial.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by Minimalist

I hate trading watches and learnt this the hard way after I traded my Explorer and black bay red for my DJII, I still own the DJII and love it but I miss the two I traded and they're aren't nearly as hard to come by as your 15300. If it were me I would at the very least keep the AP, trade the milgauss with cash on top for the ALS.

Yes. The "miss" factor is what I fear.

Right...Certainly thought of trading in only the Millie... But that would entail coming up with a lot more cash than I wanted.

[Minimalist]

Originally Posted by Speed

Yes. The "miss" factor is what I fear.

Right...Certainly thought of trading in only the Millie... But that would entail coming up with a lot more cash than I wanted.

Not only the miss factor but also regret which I forgot to mention which is worse!

There's definitely a lot of value in the AP that would make the deal easier, but like me if I'd just have waited I could have added the DJ without the need to trade but I was being impatient.

It's a tough decision... The 15300 is a special watch, and not one that I'd be ready to part with. That and the ALS would make a nice pair.

[GB-man]

I had a white gold 1815 40mm for a bit. Traded a 15400 and 116710LN for it (neither in excellent shape) Terrible trade in retrospect.

I enjoyed the Lange and it was easily the most beautiful and photogenic watch I've owned. Unfortunately I lean towards sports watches and found myself putting my LVc or AP diver on instead after half a days wear.

I should say that I'm never in a suit and dress casual 99% of the time.

This was 2 years ago. Had no trouble selling the 1815 for 1k less than I effectively paid. Langes must be bought pre loved!
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[mps354]

I really love the lange1815 up down, so I would definitely do it. I think it's pretty versatile, and I have a preference for manual winds.

[wach16]

Although I love the 1815, I dont think I would part ways with both those watches for it. I have a ROC and a Z-Blue and love them both especially because they offer two very different wearing experiences. Good luck with the decision!

[Le Chef]

I have a 15300 and an 1815 Chrono, and these would be the last two watches to go. If you could find a way to partially fund the Auf/Ab and sell the Milgaus that would be the best option in my opinion.

[belk7]

I was faced with a similar decision last year - multiple watches in trade for an ALS that I had really wanted for some time. I ultimately made the trade, and have had no regrets whatsoever. I have actually enjoyed having a smaller group to rotate. I do have to say that, while I was not actively considering moving any of the watches in the deal, I was not especially attached to any of them. If you have that sort of attachment to the 15300, then don't get forced into rushing into anything. I have owned a white dial 15300, and it was a terrific watch. Much more to my taste than the 15400. I'm not familiar with your collection, but will you be left with a bracelet watch in the mix? Regrets about what you let go will be impacted by what stays behind to complement the 1815. I had some redundancy prior to my trade, which made if easier for me. ALS is a terrific brand, and I love the 1815 lineup. I may be in the minority, but I think you can throw that watch on with anything.


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[Speed]

Originally Posted by belk7

I was faced with a similar decision last year - multiple watches in trade for an ALS that I had really wanted for some time. I ultimately made the trade, and have had no regrets whatsoever. I have actually enjoyed having a smaller group to rotate. I do have to say that, while I was not actively considering moving any of the watches in the deal, I was not especially attached to any of them. If you have that sort of attachment to the 15300, then don't get forced into rushing into anything. I have owned a white dial 15300, and it was a terrific watch. Much more to my taste than the 15400. I'm not familiar with your collection, but will you be left with a bracelet watch in the mix? Regrets about what you let go will be impacted by what stays behind to complement the 1815. I had some redundancy prior to my trade, which made if easier for me. ALS is a terrific brand, and I love the 1815 lineup. I may be in the minority, but I think you can throw that watch on with anything.


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Thanks for these thoughts... and others as well. I will no longer pooh pooh these threads asking for advice on trades. I learned something today.

I would have a few bracelet sports watches left. GMTs / Sub for example. I only have the one AP ( which is unique amongst the foregoing )...and one DJ/Oyster shaped case ala the Migauss.

Le Chef's comments are well-taken. I should simply trade in one watch and cash to make up the difference. It's just that - at this moment / and foreseeable future - I won't have a ton of discretionary $ to make up such a gap - even on a used Lange. My offspring will see to that. Soooo.... I was trying to tally up a multi-watch trade with little cash out of pocket.

[corn18]

I am considering a similar trade. Love the Lange 1 moon phase. Have some watches I could sell to fund it. But as I look at my whole collection, I have lots of sport / tool and could use a nice ALS in there. Do you have a list / photo of your whole collection? I think that context would be important.



I think I could give up the 4 in red and fit in the ALS.

[regnant]

I have traded sold many watches for the ones I have had a big interest to buy and never looked back.
The last statement is very crux of the matter that matters the most.
I also appreciate A Lange Sohne in this respect I think you can go for it but in my opinion for a time only watch there're better budget friendly watches that deliver better bang for your troubles
When one says A Lange Sohne, I visualize Double Split or Lange 1 not a time only watch.
You may disagree but for time only watch I would prefer Morriz Grossman

[shafran]

Nothing compares to the finish of a Lange. I have a Grand Lange moonphase. They are beautiful!

[HL65]

I would not do it and think you'd regret it. Let the feeling pass and keep your 15300!

[AK797]

If it wasn't the blue dial 300, I'd say trade both. And if it was for the Lange 1 Moonphase then maybe both as that is my fave dress watch.

[lapince]

If you have a Nautilus I would say yes, if you have only these 2 don't do it, you can wear the Rollie for anything and the AP when it doesn't risk being scratched, I wouldn't or at least take your time to think it through

[Peterandwatches]

I like your collection as is, and you are right, the 15300 would be difficult to replace.

If you are looking to add a dress watch, look at JLC. A Reverso or MUT Moon be quite respectable, and would fill in your dress watch spot nicely. Sure, it's not ALS, but it also doesn't have that price tag too.

[cda555]

You said GMTs as in plural... are you attached to them? Maybe you can do a GMT instead of the 15300?

[liu_watch]

Very personal choice, because it also depends on what else you have and your lifestyle.

For me, I have a 1815 up/down 39mm and love it. Would I have traded those two for it? Probably, because I do not care for an AP RO, or a Rolex Milgauss. But that AP might be difficult to get back once sold. If you really like that watch, I would sell the Rolex and save up; otherwise, pull the trigger. You only live twice!


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[willski]

Originally Posted by Le Chef

I have a 15300 and an 1815 Chrono, and these would be the last two watches to go. If you could find a way to partially fund the Auf/Ab and sell the Milgaus that would be the best option in my opinion.

I also have a 15300 and an 1815 chrono. I also agree that I'd keep the 15300 and wait until you could do Milgauss+cash for the Auf/Ab.


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[joli160]

Not a fan of the AP, admirer of ALS, but still would not do this deal if I were in your shoes imho. Reading between the lines your love for your AP is not over. Give it more time to decide

[Jay (Eire)]

I think I'd have to keep the RO. Sounds like your not convinced you should let it go.

Why are you including the RO in the trade? Why not others in the collection?

[ap1]

Find a way to keep 15300 - the size is perfect and that's THE dial to own. I'd move others instead. The up/down is a real beauty

[Speed]

Thanks so much everyone....

I think I'll stand pat for now. I do like the variety I have...and I do (still) enjoy the RO.

I was looking for a lower-cash way into a preowned lange...but I will wait a while longer.

Much appreciated.

[rossi46]

Phew! Thought I was going to see you trade away the 15300!

They're not making anymore and I really think you would have regretted it.

[Vaxe]

Sounds like a fair trade for both, but pass. 15300 and GV are both keepers IMO - once you get pass admiring the quarter place on the 1815 U/P, it may get dull quite fast.