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Old 1 September 2017, 02:40 AM   #1
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Boutiques Not Taking Deposits on 15202 or Blue 15400

Yesterday I called all of the boutiques in the US. NYC said no deposits on the 15202 or 15400 blue until 2018. Miami said not until 2019. Beverly hills just said not taking deposits at this time. Vegas told me I can put down a full deposit, but they could not give me a time frame beyond "at least 6 months." I offered full deposit each time I called. I found this a little strange, but I guess it explains Govberg selling a 15202 for over $25k.
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Old 1 September 2017, 02:49 AM   #2
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Yesterday I called all of the boutiques in the US. NYC said no deposits on the 15202 or 15400 blue until 2018. Miami said not until 2019. Beverly hills just said not taking deposits at this time. Vegas told me I can put down a full deposit, but they could not give me a time frame beyond "at least 6 months." I offered full deposit each time I called. I found this a little strange, but I guess it explains Govberg selling a 15202 for over $25k.
That's crazy! Again I wonder if it's a knock-on effect of the PP 5711 going to crazy prices - people turning to the 15202 and 5167 as an alternative.

Govberg is selling a pre-owned 15202 for $25,950. Crazy.
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Old 1 September 2017, 03:54 AM   #3
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So stupid. I can't wait for the market to tank. They will be offering an old fashioned to anyone buying these at the boutique within a year.
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Old 1 September 2017, 04:02 AM   #4
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Clearly a conspiracy.... just worthless I Say!!!
Worthless to their loss...
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Old 1 September 2017, 04:09 AM   #5
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I was in Vegas this May and a 15202 was on the display at a store adjacent to the Venetian. No deposit required.
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Old 1 September 2017, 04:11 AM   #6
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I was in Vegas this May and 15202 was on the display, waiting for the owner to buy it :-) No deposits required.
Crazy how things can change over the course of 3 months.
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Old 1 September 2017, 04:33 AM   #7
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I passed on a pre-owned I-serial 15202 this Jan, $17K.
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Old 1 September 2017, 04:41 AM   #8
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I passed on a pre-owned I-serial 15202 this Jan, $17K.
Don't feel bad. I passed on a brand new one for 23% in June of 2016. I'm the dumb one.

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So stupid. I can't wait for the market to tank. They will be offering an old fashioned to anyone buying these at the boutique within a year.
It's crazy. I've noticed over the past few weeks, prices on several models (new and preowned) have crept up. There are still plenty available, so I don't know what's causing it. Doesn't affect me. I got my 116613LN a few weeks ago and have been offered a 20% discount on a new Tudor BB with ETA from an AD. May have to pick that up.
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Old 1 September 2017, 05:37 AM   #10
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I had the opportunity to purchase a 15202 blue dial in Bal Harbor AP boutique in May but didn't go for it. Now I want it. Human nature. Go figure.

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Well, I had the opportunity to buy a 15202 from the Hong Kong boutique in March with a small discount. When I went back in July, they had it in stock, but were firm on no discounts.

At least now, I don't feel as bad paying full list price for it.
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Old 1 September 2017, 07:00 AM   #12
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I guess my investment paid off. Does anyone have any market analysis of when I should unload these?
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Old 1 September 2017, 07:11 AM   #13
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Govberg is selling a pre-owned 15202 for $25,950. Crazy.
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I guess my investment paid off. Does anyone have any market analysis of when I should unload these?
WTF! wow, i guess it's time to sell mine too!
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Old 1 September 2017, 07:22 AM   #14
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I guess my investment paid off. Does anyone have any market analysis of when I should unload these?
Sell to me :)

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Something is going on, Rolex, PP and now AP we are hearing of prices rising and supply falling even in the US.
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Old 1 September 2017, 07:54 AM   #16
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Again I wonder if it's a knock-on effect of the PP 5711 going to crazy prices - people turning to the 15202 and 5167 as an alternative.
i think it's too different a watch to have this effect felt in its direction, but hoping it won't raise prices of FPJ CB.
dying to try this on.
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Old 1 September 2017, 08:04 AM   #17
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Yesterday I called all of the boutiques in the US. NYC said no deposits on the 15202 or 15400 blue until 2018. Miami said not until 2019. Beverly hills just said not taking deposits at this time. Vegas told me I can put down a full deposit, but they could not give me a time frame beyond "at least 6 months." I offered full deposit each time I called. I found this a little strange, but I guess it explains Govberg selling a 15202 for over $25k.
What explanation did they offer?

Valuations on Chrono24 are as they were, generally speaking...but it is surprising to see relatively few pieces available...various London-based grey market dealer's websites also show no stock.
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Old 1 September 2017, 08:09 AM   #18
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What explanation did they offer?
Corporate policy and they need to fulfill existing deposits before taking anymore.

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Old 1 September 2017, 08:27 AM   #19
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I was at the NYC boutique in person during the PP Exhibition in July. The sales lady told me if I wanted a steel 15202, to put a deposit down and I'd have it in a few months. 6 weeks later and now they're acting like this is a PP5711 blue dial. WTF!?

I'm hoping when I have the funds to buy a RG or YG 15202 in 2-3 years, the prices will collapse and I can get a discount on it.
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Old 1 September 2017, 08:29 AM   #20
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I was at the NYC boutique in person during the PP Exhibition in July. The sales lady told me if I wanted a steel 15202, to put a deposit down and I'd have it in a few months. 6 weeks later and now they're acting like this is a PP5711 blue dial. WTF!?

I'm hoping when I have the funds to buy a RG or YG 15202 in 2-3 years, the prices will collapse and I can get a discount on it.
You can easily get a 15202or with a discount. I was offered one brand new from AD for ~$40k a few days ago.

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That is strange, I bought my 15400 blue dial from Beverly Hills, they had one to me in a few days - no discount. Call Ebony there and tell her Bryan sent you.
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Old 1 September 2017, 10:26 AM   #22
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I was at the NYC boutique in person during the PP Exhibition in July. The sales lady told me if I wanted a steel 15202, to put a deposit down and I'd have it in a few months. 6 weeks later and now they're acting like this is a PP5711 blue dial. WTF!?

I'm hoping when I have the funds to buy a RG or YG 15202 in 2-3 years, the prices will collapse and I can get a discount on it.
Funny I was there too that same weekend and put down a deposit. Was told October. We shall see
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When I was in Vegas last october the AP boutique told me and even showed me paperwork of few people had even paid for the watch in full and would have received them by the end of year.
I was told if I'd paid a full deposit then would get one within 6 months.
I was on list in UK but then in Feb was told by my AD it was boutique piece only.
So in May paid deposit at Geneva boutique and got the call few weeks ago that it as arrived.
Finally getting around to picking it up next week , currently sitting in the safe factory sealed in those patek like cardboard boxes they now ship in :-)
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According to the PP subforum guys, PP isn't giving out the cardboard boxes anymore. Some angry PP watch buyers over there because of that.
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According to the PP subforum guys, PP isn't giving out the cardboard boxes anymore. Some angry PP watch buyers over there because of that.
didn't know that ...bought my last patek in 2015 and no plans at moment to add to the collection. The AP ones are white/grey ( service ones are green )
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Yes they told me that at the Paris Boutique and an AD the same day. Both just received one, I could get it if I wanted, both said first come first served
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didn't know that ...bought my last patek in 2015 and no plans at moment to add to the collection. The AP ones are white/grey ( service ones are green )
I've got a few of the green cardboard service boxes. I don't know why anyone would want them or think they would add value. Although i kept them for some reason.
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didn't know that ...bought my last patek in 2015 and no plans at moment to add to the collection. The AP ones are white/grey ( service ones are green )
Other way around now.
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Its probably nothing unique to those 2 models nor the brand but the widely publicised pickup in the luxury watch market that is emerging out of several bad years. Naturally the more popular models will feel it first.
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So stupid. I can't wait for the market to tank. They will be offering an old fashioned to anyone buying these at the boutique within a year.
I'm with you Neil. I've been through three economic downturns and they all seemed to have one thing in common leading up to them: unnecessary items selling for way over retail. Now there are at least 5 watches that sell over retail: 116500, 5711, 5131, SS Skydweller, and now the 15202. Anyone seen a 5167 lately BNIB for retail? Me neither, so make that 6 models.

I'm saving my money for the next downturn and discount.
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