SkyDweller question!

[Porter]

Hi all,
Sorry if you been discussing this before but I tried to find a thread without success.
I've been looking a lot of pictures of the watch and I realized that from the right angle the screwed-in crown is not covering the tube. Is this happening often in all models or just in the SS ones??
Thanks in advance for your help.

"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

[yxc145]

what tube are you referring to?

[Mirx]

I believe the OP is asking why the crown does not screw all the way down to the watch case as there is a small gap.

[Porter]

Originally Posted by Mirx

I believe the OP is asking why the crown does not screw all the way down to the watch case as there is a small gap.

Yes!

"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

[jguerra04]

It's normal

[phez]

If you mean the crown doesn't rest close to the case, then yes, you are right, it isn't as snug a fit as on any of my other Rolexes.

[Swiss Mad!]

Appears alot closer on the Rolex website..

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[yxc145]

Originally Posted by Porter

Yes!

"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

Originally Posted by Mirx

I believe the OP is asking why the crown does not screw all the way down to the watch case as there is a small gap.

There has to be a little gap right, otherwise, the crown will scratch the case.

[Porter]

Originally Posted by phez

If you mean the crown doesn't rest close to the case, then yes, you are right, it isn't as snug a fit as on any of my other Rolexes.

Yes, curiously only in SS models.
Gold ones are more adjusted to the case.


"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

[Porter]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

Appears alot closer on the Rolex website..

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True! Official pics are perfect but once you have one in your hands is a different story...

"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

[Swiss Mad!]

Is it because the side of the case is curved and the back of the winder is flat?

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[phez]

Originally Posted by Porter

Yes, curiously only in SS models.
Gold ones are more adjusted to the case.


"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

Mine is the TT model and the gap is greater than on my other watches.

[Porter]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

Is it because the side of the case is curved and the back of the winder is flat?

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Similar cases like DJ 41, Explorer, Milgauss... Have the crown nearly touching the case. In the SKD is very different!

"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

[Porter]

Originally Posted by phez

If you mean the crown doesn't rest close to the case, then yes, you are right, it isn't as snug a fit as on any of my other Rolexes.

Originally Posted by phez

Mine is the TT model and the gap is greater than on my other watches.

Thanks for your pic!!
True! SS and SS/YG(TT) have the crown quite separated from the case and I don't know why! Full gold models have the crown closer to the case like the DJ and others...

"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

[peterpl]

Not true. All SKyD whether its PM/SS or TT all have the crown out from the case.

Please dont spread the misinformation. Here is my SykD full RG. I've handled probably over 20 of these pieces and all of them are the same. The SS/TT models dont have the crown upright that is the ONLY difference.

[HogwldFLTR]

FWIW, there's no gap on mine.

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

FWIW, there's no gap on mine.

show us a picture.

[G.D.BeanCounter]

I can confirm the gap on at least one WG SkyD

[regnant]

Gap or not gap does the crow in Stainless Steel or Rolesor sit upright as gold variations that's the question and it's where you could find an answer to that mystery
I think that privilege only reserved for the gold models deliberately by Rolex

[Porter]

Originally Posted by peterpl

Not true. All SKyD whether its PM/SS or TT all have the crown out from the case.

Please dont spread the misinformation. Here is my SykD full RG. I've handled probably over 20 of these pieces and all of them are the same. The SS/TT models dont have the crown upright that is the ONLY difference.

I don't spread misinformation. Pics are there and many full gold models have a very small gap and SS models have a bigger one. That's my question, why?
You are getting a very special watch and I'm the one saying is very normal to find mistakes in a hand mounted watch. We are humans.
Why in all official pics there's no gap and the reality is different? Why is there a gap?
I've restored and serviced a lot of watches and cannot remember one with such gap. I would like to know why, just that.

"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by peterpl

show us a picture.

Hopefully this will do...

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

Appears alot closer on the Rolex website..

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Originally Posted by Porter

True! Official pics are perfect but once you have one in your hands is a different story...


"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

Note the perspective issue in the photo; the camera is offset to the 9:00 side such that the bezel and case at the 3:00 side eclipse the stem a bit.

[JerseyGuy]

Thats a sweet watch. Lee. Wear it in good health.

[Porter]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Hopefully this will do...







Note the perspective issue in the photo; the camera is offset to the 9:00 side such that the bezel and case at the 3:00 side eclipse the stem a bit.

Why so many different crown positions?? Cannot understand....

"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by Porter

Why so many different crown positions?? Cannot understand....

"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

Not quite certain exactly what you mean; in general all manufacturing processes have variation. Whether it's noticed or not depends on how closely one looks.

Originally Posted by JerseyGuy

Thats a sweet watch. Lee. Wear it in good health.

Much thanks!!! I'm selling both my GMT and DJII because of it. Grail watch->check!!!



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[DocHorton]

Originally Posted by Porter

Why so many different crown positions?? Cannot understand....

"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

Every picture in this thread looks the same.

[padi56]

The reason for a small case gap on all Rolex crowns is quite simple there is a rubber gasket in the crown head.If there is no gap then you have destroyed the rubber gasket in the crown head to seal the crown tube thus only screw down just finger tight.

[Porter]

Originally Posted by DocHorton

Every picture in this thread looks the same.

Depending on the eyes of each one.
My eyes say the first two pics are quite different from the third and fourth.
With this thread just would like to know why there's a gap between the crown and the case in this particular model.


"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

[Porter]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Not quite certain exactly what you mean; in general all manufacturing processes have variation. Whether it's noticed or not depends on how closely one looks.




Much thanks!!! I'm selling both my GMT and DJII because of it. Grail watch->check!!!



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Yes, true and I agree but this variations IMO are quite remarkable. Cannot understand why the crown is not covering the tube like in other models. 0'1mm and 0'2mm in watchmaking are very different measures. Sorry if I'm not explaining well.

"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.

[DocHorton]

You can't compare different angles or perspectives when judging distance and have the same observations. Every Rolex I own has a small gap between the crown and case. They aren't designed to screw down tight against the case or like said above would scratch it and the rubber gasket prevents it.

The first, second, and fourth picture are nearly identical. The third still has a clear space, but the angle makes it difficult to tell how wide. It's clearly not limited to SS models...see the PM picture above.

[Porter]

Originally Posted by DocHorton

You can't compare different angles or perspectives when judging distance and have the same observations. Every Rolex I own has a small gap between the crown and case. They aren't designed to screw down tight against the case or like said above would scratch it and the rubber gasket prevents it.

The first, second, and fourth picture are nearly identical. The third still has a clear space, but the angle makes it difficult to tell how wide. It's clearly not limited to SS models...see the PM picture above.

Ok, went to the safe to take some pics and now I'm ready to speak about crown and watchmaking tolerances.
Here you have my 114270, 116264, 16570 and 74000 models. These are part of my collection and I preferred not to take pics to my diver models due to the waterproof conditions totally different to the SKD.
In watchmaking the screw-in crown finished tolerance is depending on few factors: tube length, crown inner length, crown inner rubber gasket and stem length. If one of these measures is not right the crown will leave a gap within the case or the crown will scratch the case. To control these distances you use a micrometer because tolerances are measured in 1/10 or 1/100mm.
As you can see at the pics the crown is perfectly aligned in its place and don't let the tube see the light. Of course my cases are not scratched by the crown. This is the perfect fitting IMO and this is the way manufacturers are fitting crowns in watches normally (including Rolex and Tudor).
With this I'm not saying the SKD is not well fitted but such tolerance have an explanation, for sure, and I would like to know it. Why some SS and Gold models have different tolerances? I would like to know it too.
Thanks for reading and hope I've explained well.

"If you're not having fun you're doing something wrong". Groucho Marx.