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TakeYourTime · 15 November 2017, 07:29 AM

Yesterday I went to an AD as I wanted to buy spontaneously a DJ41 (I thought about a TT black dial with jubilee) as I got a nice bonus and wanted to reward myself.

They didn't had it but the gold dial looked good and here it comes... it looked kinda small on my wrist!

I was comparing it to my every day watch (116610LN) and the 40mm Sub looked bigger...?

Therefore I asked the AD if this are really 41mm and he rolled his eyes and said "sir, it's even called Datejust 41".

I did some research on this forum and it looks like the Datejust 41 is not even 40mm, it's a bit more than 39mm!

I cannot express how angry I am, especially after the sentence from the AD "sir it's even called Datejust 41".

How do you think about that?
+/- 2 sec a day but than being off by that?

Please refer to the following post

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...&postcount=130

I would appreciate your honest thoughts and feedback.

watchwatcher · 15 November 2017, 07:38 AM

I think it's a great watch. If you don't like it, try something else...perhaps something a little bigger?

chrito · 16 November 2017, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by watchwatcher

i think it's a great watch. If you don't like it, try something else...perhaps something a little bigger?

+1

Chadridv · 15 November 2017, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TakeYourTime

How do you think about that?
+/- 2 sec a day but than being off by that?

I have no idea what this means in your post.

As for the watch, it seems pretty simple. Not for you. Perhaps save and pray for a Sky-D. Or try to find a DJ2 which seems to be a true 41mm.

As for the dealer, that wouldn't be the first dumb thing a dealer said. Best to not get angry and let it go.

AK797 · 15 November 2017, 07:44 AM

It does wear smaller as do a few Rolex models.

G.Costanza · 15 November 2017, 07:59 AM

I'd recommend looking at a DJii. It is a true 41mm. Prices are pretty good right now too, I believe I saw Davidsw had a few with stickers still on them for around 5800.

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willy23 · 16 November 2017, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by G.Costanza

I'd recommend looking at a DJii. It is a true 41mm. Prices are pretty good right now too, I believe I saw Davidsw had a few with stickers still on them for around 5800.

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DuncanInLeeds · 15 November 2017, 08:01 AM

I test drove a 2-litre Beemer 520d M-sport, loved it and placed an order right there on the spot. But then discovered that the engine displacement is only 1,995cc. How very dare they!!!! Cancelled my order straightaway.

yxc145 · 15 November 2017, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DuncanInLeeds

I test drove a 2-litre Beemer 520d M-sport, loved it and placed an order right there on the spot. But then discovered that the engine displacement is only 1,995cc. How very dare they!!!! Cancelled my order straightaway.

AlanY · 15 November 2017, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DuncanInLeeds

I test drove a 2-litre Beemer 520d M-sport, loved it and placed an order right there on the spot. But then discovered that the engine displacement is only 1,995cc. How very dare they!!!! Cancelled my order straightaway.

bought a 8T NAS drive the other day.
guess what? available disk space 7.1T!

how dare they!!

DuncanInLeeds · 15 November 2017, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanY

bought a 8T NAS drive the other day.
guess what? available disk space 7.1T!

how dare they!!

Indeed, how very dare they...

When you asked how much memory was available, did the AD say "well it is called an 8TB NAS drive for a reason sir." I trust you've posted your anger & ignominy all over an appropriate forum...

Ah, the irony.

jaySL350 · 15 November 2017, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DuncanInLeeds

I test drove a 2-litre Beemer 520d M-sport, loved it and placed an order right there on the spot. But then discovered that the engine displacement is only 1,995cc. How very dare they!!!! Cancelled my order straightaway.

#sadly,,BMW have been doing that stuff for years,,it works the other way also! ie a e46 323i was actually a 325i and so on and so forth,,,,,jay

DuncanInLeeds · 15 November 2017, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jaySL350

#sadly,,BMW have been doing that stuff for years,,it works the other way also! ie a e46 323i was actually a 325i and so on and so forth,,,,,jay

No shit Sherlock!

jaySL350 · 15 November 2017, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DuncanInLeeds

No shit Sherlock!

No need to be rude Dunky,,,,jay

ejvette · 16 November 2017, 02:02 AM

love my DJ 41 it certainly does not wear small and I have an 8" wrist.

JBoone · 16 November 2017, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ejvette

love my DJ 41 it certainly does not wear small and I have an 8" wrist.

8 inch wrist here as well and love it. Wears prefect fo me

Passionata · 16 November 2017, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuncanInLeeds

I test drove a 2-litre Beemer 520d M-sport, loved it and placed an order right there on the spot. But then discovered that the engine displacement is only 1,995cc. How very dare they!!!! Cancelled my order straightaway.

well done

Number3 · 15 November 2017, 08:08 AM

I think the OP is asking how, when they can get the timekeeping tolerances so tight, Rolex can be so wrong on the physical dimensions....? I haven't seen the DJ41 in the flesh yet but I would find it odd if it were out by that margin, even more so considering its name. I have seen previous threads on this and am sure someone will chime in with exact measurements.

tyler1980 · 15 November 2017, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Number3

I think the OP is asking how, when they can get the timekeeping tolerances so tight, Rolex can be so wrong on the physical dimensions....? I haven't seen the DJ41 in the flesh yet but I would find it odd if it were out by that margin, even more so considering its name. I have seen previous threads on this and am sure someone will chime in with exact measurements.

possibly, however sizes are always deceiving. My 5164 is listed at 40.8 and it wears smaller than my GMT II at 40mm. My GMT looks huge next to it. There are many factors that cause a watch to wear larger or smaller than stated sizes. I don't get hung up on sizes, when i try it on and i like how it looks thats all that matters.

Duende01 · 15 November 2017, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TakeYourTime

Yesterday I went to an AD as I wanted to buy spontaneously a DJ41 (I thought about a TT black dial with jubilee) as I got a nice bonus and wanted to reward myself.

They didn't had it but the gold dial looked good and here it comes... it looked kinda small on my wrist!

I was comparing it to my every day watch (116610LN) and the 40mm Sub looked bigger...?

Therefore I asked the AD if this are really 41mm and he rolled his eyes and said "sir, it's even called Datejust 41".

I did some research on this forum and it looks like the Datejust 41 is not even 40mm, it's a bit more than 39mm!

I cannot express how angry I am, especially after the sentence from the AD "sir it's even called Datejust 41".

How do you think about that?
+/- 2 sec a day but than being off by that?

Please refer to the following post

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...&postcount=130

I would appreciate your honest thoughts and feedback.

I am with you on this one. I was pretty much set on this watch myself from looking at the pictures here and some of the videos on Youtube. I also went to the nearest AD last night and while I did not get angry, I was also a bit disappointed with the size. There is no denying that the watch is beautiful in the different variations that I tried on. However, although I have a small wrist, I like larger watches and this one looked to me more like a 36mm. I am now on the waiting list for a GMT II (Batman or Black).

HK Islandboy · 15 November 2017, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Duende01

I am with you on this one. I was pretty much set on this watch myself from looking at the pictures here and some of the videos on Youtube. I also went to the nearest AD last night and while I did not get angry, I was also a bit disappointed with the size. There is no denying that the watch is beautiful in the different variations that I tried on. However, although I have a small wrist, I like larger watches and this one looked to me more like a 36mm. I am now on the waiting list for a GMT II (Batman or Black).

This thread is a good reminder that online wrist shots give an incomplete view of how a watch will actually wear on an individual’s wrist - there is no substitute for trying a piece on.

TickTockChuck · 15 November 2017, 08:40 AM

I agree the salesperson was rude to you. Unfortunately some ADs are snobby and I think everyone experiences that at some point and is bad for future business. Best to focus on what you want in a watch. The DJ41 does wear smaller than it's name suggests, closer to the Explorer I (39mm). As someone mentioned, perhaps the previous (larger) generation DJII would work better for you. Good luck in your watch hunt and hope it is more enjoyable. Cheers!

grizzlyadams · 15 November 2017, 08:51 AM

DJII. I bought it this past weekend and couldn't be more happy. There are some still available out there.

jwkunkle · 15 November 2017, 09:09 AM

I think the smooth bezel DJ 41 wears smaller than the fluted bezel.

904VT · 15 November 2017, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TakeYourTime

Yesterday I went to an AD as I wanted to buy spontaneously a DJ41 (I thought about a TT black dial with jubilee) as I got a nice bonus and wanted to reward myself.

They didn't had it but the gold dial looked good and here it comes... it looked kinda small on my wrist!

I was comparing it to my every day watch (116610LN) and the 40mm Sub looked bigger...?

Therefore I asked the AD if this are really 41mm and he rolled his eyes and said "sir, it's even called Datejust 41".

I did some research on this forum and it looks like the Datejust 41 is not even 40mm, it's a bit more than 39mm!

I cannot express how angry I am, especially after the sentence from the AD "sir it's even called Datejust 41".

How do you think about that?
+/- 2 sec a day but than being off by that?

Please refer to the following post

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...&postcount=130

I would appreciate your honest thoughts and feedback.

If it makes you feel any better, the vast majority of AD employees know very little about the actual watches they are selling. If it bugs you much, next time you're in the store mention to the rep you did some research and the DJ 41 is not a true 41mm measurement.

If you really want to blow their mind, tell them a Daytona is not 40mm. No way, no how and never has been.

cornerstore · 15 November 2017, 09:22 AM

Most measurements I see here are measured horizontal 9 to 3 . My understanding is Rolex measure diagonally 10 to 4 or 8 to 2. Maybe the reason for the differences of opinion.

The nice thing about the DJ41 for many people's wrist size is the more tradional sized downturned lugs and thickness . OP it would seem small after wearing a six digit sub with its super case and xtra thickness and rotating bezel.

Bello_nyc · 15 November 2017, 09:36 AM

It should be called the DJ39!! Lol 😆 I wanted one now i need to try it on.

Syed117 · 15 November 2017, 10:01 AM

There are two flanking the 116610 in this picture.

Just for comparison.

Maiden · 15 November 2017, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Syed117

There are two flanking the 116610 in this picture.

Just for comparison.

Yep with the fluted bezel the DJ 41 wears as large, or larger in my eye than the Sub, so not sure what the issue is. As suggested look at the DJ2 if that is more for you.

904VT · 15 November 2017, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Maiden

Yep with the fluted bezel the DJ 41 wears as large, or larger in my eye than the Sub, so not sure what the issue is. As suggested look at the DJ2 if that is more for you.

While the case measurements are fairly close, the dial on the DJ is larger than the Sub. As the bezel on the Sub is wider diameter. Both features exaggerate the visual effect. The polishing of the case on the DJ reduces the visual footprint as well, but really not all that different in size than a maxi case on the Sub.

15 November 2017, 07:29 AM	#1
TakeYourTime "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Alex Location: California Watch: Changes daily Posts: 410	Disappointment about Datejust 41 Yesterday I went to an AD as I wanted to buy spontaneously a DJ41 (I thought about a TT black dial with jubilee) as I got a nice bonus and wanted to reward myself. They didn't had it but the gold dial looked good and here it comes... it looked kinda small on my wrist! I was comparing it to my every day watch (116610LN) and the 40mm Sub looked bigger...? Therefore I asked the AD if this are really 41mm and he rolled his eyes and said "sir, it's even called Datejust 41". I did some research on this forum and it looks like the Datejust 41 is not even 40mm, it's a bit more than 39mm! I cannot express how angry I am, especially after the sentence from the AD "sir it's even called Datejust 41". How do you think about that? +/- 2 sec a day but than being off by that? Please refer to the following post https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...&postcount=130 I would appreciate your honest thoughts and feedback.

16 November 2017, 02:02 AM	#15
ejvette 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: East Hampton NY Watch: me break clays.. Posts: 7,516	love my DJ 41 it certainly does not wear small and I have an 8" wrist. __________________ Rolex•Omega•Breitling•Grand Seiko•Tudor "No one on their death bed ever said I wish I worked more" My Grandma * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

15 November 2017, 08:51 AM	#23
grizzlyadams "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Atlanta Watch: Datejust II Roman Posts: 13	Djii DJII. I bought it this past weekend and couldn't be more happy. There are some still available out there. Attached Images

15 November 2017, 09:36 AM	#27
Bello_nyc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Bello Location: NYC Watch: Rolex Posts: 698	It should be called the DJ39!! Lol 😆 I wanted one now i need to try it on. __________________ Ap Royal oak offshore 🌹 ♛ Sky-Dweller 326934🤍 ♛ Datejust41 126333 ♛ Datejust2 116334 💎💎

15 November 2017, 10:01 AM	#28
Syed117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Syed Location: The Ether Posts: 3,388	There are two flanking the 116610 in this picture. Just for comparison. __________________ Rolex Datejust 41 126334 \| Omega Speedmaster Professional Hesalite \| Cartier Santos Large \| Tudor Black Bay 58

15 November 2017, 07:38 AM	#2
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,047	I think it's a great watch. If you don't like it, try something else...perhaps something a little bigger?

15 November 2017, 07:44 AM	#5
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	It does wear smaller as do a few Rolex models.

15 November 2017, 07:59 AM	#6
G.Costanza "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Atlanta Posts: 171	I'd recommend looking at a DJii. It is a true 41mm. Prices are pretty good right now too, I believe I saw Davidsw had a few with stickers still on them for around 5800. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

15 November 2017, 08:01 AM	#8
DuncanInLeeds Banned Join Date: Aug 2017 Real Name: Duncan Location: Leeds Watch: Daytona 116500LN Posts: 83	I test drove a 2-litre Beemer 520d M-sport, loved it and placed an order right there on the spot. But then discovered that the engine displacement is only 1,995cc. How very dare they!!!! Cancelled my order straightaway.

15 November 2017, 08:08 AM	#18
Number3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: London Watch: 114060LB Posts: 3,986	I think the OP is asking how, when they can get the timekeeping tolerances so tight, Rolex can be so wrong on the physical dimensions....? I haven't seen the DJ41 in the flesh yet but I would find it odd if it were out by that margin, even more so considering its name. I have seen previous threads on this and am sure someone will chime in with exact measurements.

15 November 2017, 08:40 AM	#22
TickTockChuck "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Chuck Location: Canada Watch: Rolex 116610LV Posts: 2,270	I agree the salesperson was rude to you. Unfortunately some ADs are snobby and I think everyone experiences that at some point and is bad for future business. Best to focus on what you want in a watch. The DJ41 does wear smaller than it's name suggests, closer to the Explorer I (39mm). As someone mentioned, perhaps the previous (larger) generation DJII would work better for you. Good luck in your watch hunt and hope it is more enjoyable. Cheers!

15 November 2017, 09:09 AM	#24
jwkunkle 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Josh Location: Indiana Watch: The Next One Posts: 645	I think the smooth bezel DJ 41 wears smaller than the fluted bezel.

15 November 2017, 09:22 AM	#26
cornerstore "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 4,010	Most measurements I see here are measured horizontal 9 to 3 . My understanding is Rolex measure diagonally 10 to 4 or 8 to 2. Maybe the reason for the differences of opinion. The nice thing about the DJ41 for many people's wrist size is the more tradional sized downturned lugs and thickness . OP it would seem small after wearing a six digit sub with its super case and xtra thickness and rotating bezel.

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