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georgekart · 8 March 2018, 06:59 PM

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/oyste...-id7825264.htm

Here's a fake GMT-Master II being sold on chrono24. Report it so people don't get it. I also have suspicions about other watch from their inventory, namely https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/datej...-id7814288.htm , can anyone confirm my suspicion?

SkyKing31 · 8 March 2018, 07:26 PM

The Datejust isn't fake. The dial and bezel are not factory original but the watch itself is not a fake. The GMT also is genuine.

georgekart · 8 March 2018, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyKing31

The Datejust isn't fake. The dial and bezel are not factory original but the watch itself is not a fake. The GMT also is genuine.

Might be, as I said I am not so sure about the Datejust, but cyclops looked off to me. https://cdn2.chrono24.com/images/uhr...814288_xxl.jpg (you can zoom in on this direct link to pic) As of GMT, I totally disagree, look at this pic for example https://cdn2.chrono24.com/images/uhr...25264b_xxl.jpg (2nd slide), that's not how ceramic bezel is supposed to look like. Numbers are painted, they should be engraved.

SkyKing31 · 8 March 2018, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by georgekart

Might be, as I said I am not so sure about the Datejust, but cyclops looked off to me. https://cdn2.chrono24.com/images/uhr...814288_xxl.jpg (you can zoom in on this direct link to pic) As of GMT, I totally disagree, look at this pic for example https://cdn2.chrono24.com/images/uhr...25264b_xxl.jpg (2nd slide), that's not how ceramic bezel is supposed to look like. Numbers are painted, they should be engraved.

I am certain about both watches. The pic angle is either bad on the GMT, or perhaps the bezel has been replaced by a non original or has been altered in some way. It is difficult for me to tell at this hour, but I am certain that the GMT is a real Rolex.

Andad · 8 March 2018, 09:57 PM

Is the GMT stack correct?

I can't quite make it out in the pic.

bayerische · 9 March 2018, 12:46 AM

Hand stack looks correct.

jimcarver · 9 March 2018, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyKing31

, but I am certain that the GMT is a real Rolex.

I am no expert but what makes you think its real, it looks pretty bad to me. Look at the rear pic, the top of the clasp isn't even straight.

49ers101hitters · 9 March 2018, 03:47 PM

That’s a deal GMT. Don’t accuse people of selling “fakes” when you have no grounds to do so.

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georgekart · 9 March 2018, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 49ers101hitters

That’s a deal GMT. Don’t accuse people of selling “fakes” when you have no grounds to do so.

I do have grounds to do so, because it has a fake bezel (not engraved like it should be) and fake clasp on the bracelet (not straight), combining those two, as well as DJ I sent link to with non-factory dial, bezel and magnification issue as well as one DSSD I found in their inventory that has bezel issues as well, I can assume they sell fakes. And also to be sure I asked on rolex subreddit and we reached conclusion they were fake.

Max16013 · 9 March 2018, 07:19 PM

Crap quality photos, real watches

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zaydans · 10 March 2018, 11:39 AM

Gmt II looks legit to me based on chs but that bezel doesn’t look great but I put that down to terrible pictures

georgekart · 11 March 2018, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zaydans

Gmt II looks legit to me based on chs but that bezel doesn’t look great but I put that down to terrible pictures

Bezel is definitively not original. Look at dot between 4 and 6. It is too close to 6, no matter what angle that wouldn't happen.

Jacobson · 12 March 2018, 01:13 AM

not too sure about the crown on the GMT as well

asiparks · 14 March 2018, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by georgekart

Bezel is definitively not original. Look at dot between 4 and 6. It is too close to 6, no matter what angle that wouldn't happen.

good point! The bezel markings are quite off and the flip lock clasp looks appalling....

There are fakes with the correct hand stack, curious what makes people think that this is a genuine GMTc ?

Onikage · 15 March 2018, 02:44 AM

Have to agree on the GMT bezel being aftermarket. It also appears to be raised above the bezel ring. And the polished case sides appear to have been amateurishly brushed. In short I wouldn't buy it, and I'd be upset if I had. Can't say with certainty that it's a worthless Shanghai effort but seller should at least disclose exactly what the deal is.

springer · 15 March 2018, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Have to agree on the GMT bezel being aftermarket. It also appears to be raised above the bezel ring. And the polished case sides appear to have been amateurishly brushed. In short I wouldn't buy it, and I'd be upset if I had. Can't say with certainty that it's a worthless Shanghai effort but seller should at least disclose exactly what the deal is.

Fake or genuine. Fakes must be getting better when members can't tell one from the other.

Onikage · 15 March 2018, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by springer

Fake or genuine. Fakes must be getting better when members can't tell one from the other.

Yeah.. hear ya, not a good look. Though personally I give up with ceramics as they're that close. I can't ascertain anything from pictures. Makes you wonder how many members are successfully pulling the wool over 'INCOMING!!'

Wahlberg · 16 March 2018, 04:05 AM

I've sent them a message and they confirmed it's an aftermarket bezel.

I still find it strange, easy to miss but still it's so obvious as well.

8 March 2018, 06:59 PM	#1
georgekart "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 1,550	Fake GMT-Master II https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/oyste...-id7825264.htm Here's a fake GMT-Master II being sold on chrono24. Report it so people don't get it. I also have suspicions about other watch from their inventory, namely https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/datej...-id7814288.htm , can anyone confirm my suspicion?

8 March 2018, 07:26 PM	#2
SkyKing31 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Manalapan Florida Watch: Tridor Masterpiece Posts: 2,819	The Datejust isn't fake. The dial and bezel are not factory original but the watch itself is not a fake. The GMT also is genuine. __________________ It's been said that money can never buy happiness which is true, but I'd rather cry while seated in the back of a Rolls Royce limousine instead crying while seated on a bicycle.

8 March 2018, 09:57 PM	#5
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,528	Is the GMT stack correct? I can't quite make it out in the pic. __________________ E

9 March 2018, 12:46 AM	#6
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Hand stack looks correct. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

9 March 2018, 03:47 PM	#8
49ers101hitters "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Hugh Location: Silicon Valley Watch: Sub, 2xDJ, Zenith Posts: 246	Fake GMT-Master II That’s a deal GMT. Don’t accuse people of selling “fakes” when you have no grounds to do so. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________

9 March 2018, 07:19 PM	#10
Max16013 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Here Watch: DJ 16013 Posts: 247	Crap quality photos, real watches Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 March 2018, 11:39 AM	#11
zaydans "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Joe Location: CONUS Watch: Rolex 116710 Posts: 994	Gmt II looks legit to me based on chs but that bezel doesn’t look great but I put that down to terrible pictures

12 March 2018, 01:13 AM	#13
Jacobson "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA, UK, UAE Posts: 670	not too sure about the crown on the GMT as well __________________ ROLEX: 16570 - 16610LV - 116610LN - 116610LV - 16710 - 116710BLNR - 126710BLRO - 116622 Rhodium - 116520 Black - 116500LN White - 116500LN Black - 228206 Ice AP: 15450ST White - 15202ST Blue - 26331ST -- PP: 5711/1A Blue - 5056P-001 -- BP: 5008 1130 71S -- JLC: 3908420 -- Tudor: M79470-0001

15 March 2018, 02:44 AM	#15
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	Have to agree on the GMT bezel being aftermarket. It also appears to be raised above the bezel ring. And the polished case sides appear to have been amateurishly brushed. In short I wouldn't buy it, and I'd be upset if I had. Can't say with certainty that it's a worthless Shanghai effort but seller should at least disclose exactly what the deal is. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

16 March 2018, 04:05 AM	#18
Wahlberg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 3,590	I've sent them a message and they confirmed it's an aftermarket bezel. I still find it strange, easy to miss but still it's so obvious as well.

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