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ragingcao · 10 March 2018, 01:36 AM

It's dilemma time dear fellows TRF.
Your input and opinions greatly appreciated.

A straight swap between the Daytona RG chocolate dial and leather strap 116515 with the ALS Richard Lange RG.
Both watches 2nd hand, very good conditions. Daytona circa 2015. ALS RL 2013. Both no service history.

Yay or Nay?

Vaxe · 10 March 2018, 01:45 AM

Easy choice, Id take the 116515 all day. That particular Lange will sit forever, $30k retail is just not realistic for what it offers, and ALS has since corrected their strategy - look at the new Saxonia Moonphase, for the same price you get automatic, big date, and live moon phase.

ap1 · 10 March 2018, 02:33 AM

Hold Daytona. There are other Langes that I prefer. 1815 chrono, Lange 1 moon phase for example

woodsworth · 10 March 2018, 06:16 AM

I’d make the trade. That particular Lange is really elegant and the movement is something else!

PJ S · 10 March 2018, 07:51 AM

Dilemma? Seriously?
Get it swapped and stop asking daft questions!

AK797 · 10 March 2018, 08:36 AM

The RL wears quite large so if that is OK then go for it, really like the design.

ragingcao · 10 March 2018, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vaxe

Easy choice, Id take the 116515 all day. That particular Lange will sit forever, $30k retail is just not realistic for what it offers, and ALS has since corrected their strategy - look at the new Saxonia Moonphase, for the same price you get automatic, big date, and live moon phase.

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Originally Posted by ap1

Hold Daytona. There are other Langes that I prefer. 1815 chrono, Lange 1 moon phase for example

I do love the outsized date Sax Moon and the Lange 1 MP. Unfortunately they're not part of the offering.

ragingcao · 10 March 2018, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PJ S

Dilemma? Seriously?
Get it swapped and stop asking daft questions!

I'll stop asking daft questions if you stop desperately mimicking the Watch Snob.

ap1 · 10 March 2018, 02:08 PM

^^ lol

asiparks · 12 March 2018, 05:50 PM

Super tricky, I think the RL is a magnificent watch and I have almost zero love for Daytona, so, if the RL sets your heart aflame then go for it
Were it me, a 116515 would get roughly 21K on the secondary market, which is ballpark for an ALS Up Down or Lange 1...which would be my preference...

But if some one put both the Daytona and the RL in front of me and told me to take one, it would not be the Daytona.

benlee · 12 March 2018, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ragingcao

I'll stop asking daft questions if you stop desperately mimicking the Watch Snob.

Brilliant answer Tim.

Replying your question, I will go for the Daytona as I think it has more wrist presence and more versatile.

Watch Admirer · 12 March 2018, 09:32 PM

Roro.

PJ S · 13 March 2018, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ragingcao

I'll stop asking daft questions if you stop desperately mimicking the Watch Snob.

Who?
I mimic no-one — je suis une pièce unique!
If you persist with asking rhetorical questions, then expect suitably matching replies.

lucevan le stelle · 13 March 2018, 01:07 AM

Good dilemma to have! Has to be the Rolex, "younger" and with the "no service history" thought in mind, I would err on the side of the historically more durable.

So "daft" is a bad forum word?

vladamir15 · 13 March 2018, 03:17 AM

I would do it, especially if you have other Rolexes. Lange i feel is on a different level.

zjd168 · 13 March 2018, 01:23 PM

Daytona all day everyday. The ALS RL is a very nice watch but in my mind not worth the price

asiparks · 13 March 2018, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by zjd168

Daytona all day everyday. The ALS RL is a very nice watch but in my mind not worth the price

hmmm.... Daytona movement encased in about $800 of gold, Vs small production, hand finished work of horology......hmmmmmm

ragingcao · 14 March 2018, 11:00 PM

Thank you all for the input.

Quote:

Originally Posted by asiparks

Super tricky, I think the RL is a magnificent watch and I have almost zero love for Daytona, so, if the RL sets your heart aflame then go for it
Were it me, a 116515 would get roughly 21K on the secondary market, which is ballpark for an ALS Up Down or Lange 1...which would be my preference...

But if some one put both the Daytona and the RL in front of me and told me to take one, it would not be the Daytona.

It is magnificent especially when it's on the wrist. Problem is I'm still smitten by the 116515 chocolate dial. Up Down and Lange 1 definitely a consideration.

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Originally Posted by lucevan le stelle

Good dilemma to have! Has to be the Rolex, "younger" and with the "no service history" thought in mind, I would err on the side of the historically more durable.

So "daft" is a bad forum word?

I concur w the durability and service history. It is a special watch to me, a grail so to speak, hence the dilemma.
No, the word itself is not bad forum; just bad decorum

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Originally Posted by vladamir15

I would do it, especially if you have other Rolexes. Lange i feel is on a different level.

You got a good point.

ragingcao · 14 March 2018, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zjd168

Daytona all day everyday. The ALS RL is a very nice watch but in my mind not worth the price

My sentiment exactly until I put it on my wrist.

PJ S · 14 March 2018, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ragingcao

No, the word itself is not bad forum; just bad decorum

Nonsense!
Consult a dictionary (if needs must) and become familiar with the term ‘facetious’.
At that point, you’ll have cracked the code…

Good luck on your quest.

ragingcao · 15 March 2018, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ S

Who?
I mimic no-one — je suis une pièce unique!
If you persist with asking rhetorical questions, then expect suitably matching replies.

Who? what are you a fucking owl? Use Google dumb@ass.
Non, tu es une piece de merde

Now go away.

PJ S · 15 March 2018, 01:46 AM

^
Language Timothy!
I know precisely who the Watch Snob is, not that I’ve ever paid any attention to what he’s written.
Tokyo must suck the humour out of a person, because you seem devoid of any sense of it whatsoever.
Learn to lighten up, and stop taking everything so bloody seriously!

kunlun · 15 March 2018, 05:38 AM

Ask somewhere other than TRF. There's no comparison, the ALS is leagues above.

Chadridv · 15 March 2018, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ragingcao

I'll stop asking daft questions if you stop desperately mimicking the Watch Snob.

haha

So I really know very little about ALS except that they are held in extremely high regard. So take this for what it's worth, but I think the 116515 is an extraordinary piece and based on looks alone, I'd stick with it.

vladamir15 · 15 March 2018, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kunlun

Ask somewhere other than TRF. There's no comparison, the ALS is leagues above.

X2 lange is either equal to or better than Patek imo. I think definitely better than ap and vc. It is not on the same level or meant for the same purpose as a rolex. I would look into the lange 1 moonphase. Seeing it in person blows away any patek I’ve seen imo.

zjd168 · 15 March 2018, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by asiparks

hmmm.... Daytona movement encased in about $800 of gold, Vs small production, hand finished work of horology......hmmmmmm

That is not how I view it. With the price of this ALS model, I will go for the PP 5227.

zjd168 · 15 March 2018, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ragingcao

My sentiment exactly until I put it on my wrist.

Did you try PP 5227? I will pick that one for the price.

zjd168 · 15 March 2018, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by vladamir15

X2 lange is either equal to or better than Patek imo.

Lange of course loves people think it that way, but I don't buy it :-)

AK797 · 15 March 2018, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by zjd168

Lange of course loves people think it that way, but I don't buy it :-)

Of course they do, because most people think Patek is the best

. I think both firms are top notch and have different areas of superiority.

GFONG · 15 March 2018, 01:32 PM

If you have other ALS models in mind, I would suggest you to pass it. As you mentioned, you may consider the Saxonia Out-sized date with MP or the newly introduced Saxonia Out-sized date.

For me, I am looking for the Saxonia Annual Calendar (PT) version. I was told by the Boutique the PT version is discontinued. :sigh:

10 March 2018, 01:36 AM	#1
ragingcao "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Tokyo Watch: cha talking about? Posts: 2,919	Daytona RG Chocolate or ALS Richard Lange? It's dilemma time dear fellows TRF. Your input and opinions greatly appreciated. A straight swap between the Daytona RG chocolate dial and leather strap 116515 with the ALS Richard Lange RG. Both watches 2nd hand, very good conditions. Daytona circa 2015. ALS RL 2013. Both no service history. Yay or Nay?

13 March 2018, 03:17 AM	#15
vladamir15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: N/A Watch: AP, VC, Breguet Posts: 1,581	I would do it, especially if you have other Rolexes. Lange i feel is on a different level. __________________ The Most Valuable Commodity is Time Audemars, Vacheron, Breguet, Jaquet Droz, JLC, Rolex, Omega, Cartier

10 March 2018, 01:45 AM	#2
Vaxe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Austin TX Posts: 2,122	Easy choice, Id take the 116515 all day. That particular Lange will sit forever, $30k retail is just not realistic for what it offers, and ALS has since corrected their strategy - look at the new Saxonia Moonphase, for the same price you get automatic, big date, and live moon phase.

10 March 2018, 02:33 AM	#3
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,537	Hold Daytona. There are other Langes that I prefer. 1815 chrono, Lange 1 moon phase for example

10 March 2018, 06:16 AM	#4
woodsworth "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: 100 Acre Wood Posts: 959	I’d make the trade. That particular Lange is really elegant and the movement is something else!

10 March 2018, 07:51 AM	#5
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	Dilemma? Seriously? Get it swapped and stop asking daft questions!

10 March 2018, 08:36 AM	#6
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	The RL wears quite large so if that is OK then go for it, really like the design.

10 March 2018, 02:08 PM	#9
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,537	^^ lol

12 March 2018, 05:50 PM	#10
asiparks "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Portland, OR Watch: ing the Detectives Posts: 1,888	Super tricky, I think the RL is a magnificent watch and I have almost zero love for Daytona, so, if the RL sets your heart aflame then go for it Were it me, a 116515 would get roughly 21K on the secondary market, which is ballpark for an ALS Up Down or Lange 1...which would be my preference... But if some one put both the Daytona and the RL in front of me and told me to take one, it would not be the Daytona.

12 March 2018, 09:32 PM	#12
Watch Admirer Banned Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: somewhere Posts: 350	Roro.

13 March 2018, 01:07 AM	#14
lucevan le stelle "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: garden state Posts: 522	Good dilemma to have! Has to be the Rolex, "younger" and with the "no service history" thought in mind, I would err on the side of the historically more durable. So "daft" is a bad forum word?

13 March 2018, 01:23 PM	#16
zjd168 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: US Posts: 2,698	Daytona all day everyday. The ALS RL is a very nice watch but in my mind not worth the price

15 March 2018, 01:46 AM	#22
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	^ Language Timothy! I know precisely who the Watch Snob is, not that I’ve ever paid any attention to what he’s written. Tokyo must suck the humour out of a person, because you seem devoid of any sense of it whatsoever. Learn to lighten up, and stop taking everything so bloody seriously!

15 March 2018, 05:38 AM	#23
kunlun "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,970	Ask somewhere other than TRF. There's no comparison, the ALS is leagues above.

15 March 2018, 01:32 PM	#30
GFONG "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Galen Location: SG / HK Watch: Lange / Rolex Posts: 2,810	If you have other ALS models in mind, I would suggest you to pass it. As you mentioned, you may consider the Saxonia Out-sized date with MP or the newly introduced Saxonia Out-sized date. For me, I am looking for the Saxonia Annual Calendar (PT) version. I was told by the Boutique the PT version is discontinued. :sigh:

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