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hunkydorie · 27 March 2018, 09:15 PM

Hi,

Would really love the experts opinion on this Tudor sub I found on the bay..
I can’t make heads or tails of it.
Dial is redone, bezel is bizarre.. what about the case?
Does the etched Tudor symbol on the back come from a modern watch??

Any help with this would be great
(I accidentally posted this in the non vintage discussion group- so I’m reposting here)

Dan Pierce · 27 March 2018, 10:08 PM

Run. Don’t look back, just run.
dP

77T · 28 March 2018, 03:28 AM

Would be better in the WatchOut section

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TVal07 · 28 March 2018, 05:05 AM

I’m no expert, but I wouldn’t touch that thing with a ten foot pole.

harry in montreal · 28 March 2018, 07:48 PM

Well... the rotor looks real!

andromeda160 · 29 March 2018, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

Well... the rotor looks real!

As does the bracelet clasp. Theres even a tudor shield engraved in one of the lugs. Im not sure its all fake

motoikkyu · 29 March 2018, 03:02 AM

The case is like the water in the PRJ: extra-chunky.

dhknola · 29 March 2018, 03:11 AM

looks oddly like the prototype of the 18k white gold sub that sold for 500k

Paulie 50 · 29 March 2018, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Run. Don’t look back, just run.
dP

This man knows his stuff, if he says run; ask him how fast.

mrsentinel · 29 March 2018, 04:56 AM

There are plenty of phony tudor movements with all the right decorations on it. Since Tudor uses ETA the fakers can manufacture the remaining pieces to make it look like the real deal. Not saying that is the case on this movement, but considering the hodge-podge of other parts, it is in the real of possibility. Most fakes I am seeing focus on the submariner or other popular models.

offrdmania · 29 March 2018, 07:31 AM

The 455B end links on an Oyster bracelet should give you your first indication

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28 March 2018, 05:05 AM	#4
TVal07 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: NJ, United States Watch: 116600 (SD4K) Posts: 92	I’m no expert, but I wouldn’t touch that thing with a ten foot pole.

28 March 2018, 07:48 PM	#5
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	Well... the rotor looks real!

29 March 2018, 03:11 AM	#8
dhknola "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,175	looks oddly like the prototype of the 18k white gold sub that sold for 500k

29 March 2018, 04:56 AM	#10
mrsentinel "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: SC, USA Posts: 39	There are plenty of phony tudor movements with all the right decorations on it. Since Tudor uses ETA the fakers can manufacture the remaining pieces to make it look like the real deal. Not saying that is the case on this movement, but considering the hodge-podge of other parts, it is in the real of possibility. Most fakes I am seeing focus on the submariner or other popular models.

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