Is it just me with my AD...

[dkg1616]

I am starting to learn that a lot of people have serious trouble getting SS Subs/GMTs and Daytona watch models. I have no prior with my AD, minus parent history. I emailed him about coming in this weekend to look at YM Rhodium vs SS Sub with date. He said no problem I have them both for you... same AD who let me try on a black/white Daytona (albeit he said it was “already sold”)...buuuut I think I could convince to sell it to me.

My only leverage is that I told him I would buy my girlfriend’s engagement ring from him which is still a year plus away...

Is this a complete anomaly?

[V25V]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

I am starting to learn that a lot of people have serious trouble getting SS Subs/GMTs and Daytona watch models. I have no prior with my AD, minus parent history. I emailed him about coming in this weekend to look at YM Rhodium vs SS Sub with date. He said no problem I have them both for you... same AD who let me try on a black/white Daytona (albeit he said it was “already sold”)...buuuut I think I could convince to sell it to me.

My only leverage is that I told him I would buy my girlfriend’s engagement ring from him which is still a year plus away...

Is this a complete anomaly?

[DLRIDES]

Originally Posted by npalacio

[superdog]

Have to agree with ^^^

[yxc145]

If you convinced him to sell you that Daytona, then he must have been lying about the watch being sold already.

[dkg1616]

Now I am not 100% confident I could get the Daytona, even if I was willing to get it right now, but 100% factual about the sub...

Love the memes

[yxc145]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

Now I am not 100% confident I could get the Daytona, even if I was willing to get it right now, but 100% factual about the sub...

Love the memes

Sub Date is a popular watch, but it is not too hard to get. Daytona C on the other hand.....

[dkg1616]

I was not convinced when I was actually in there, but I also wasn’t pushing to get it right then and there. But given how much he has contacted me and discounted a YM I think it’s a 50/50 shot

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

I was not convinced when I was actually in there, but I also wasn’t pushing to get it right then and there. But given how much he has contacted me and discounted a YM I think it’s a 50/50 shot

How big of a discount on the YM?


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[vinny84]

I just walked out one of my local AD’s. They had a SS Sub-D and Mk1 Deepsea in the case. They’re out there

[RazorD]

My AD usually has a Sub and/or Sub Date on hand in the case. It really depends on where you are and how hot the market is in that area.

[AK797]

Some parts of America are still going to be moving slow and so will have stock like last year.

[DoctorA]

I honestly stopped trying to understand ADs! I deal with them with a huge grain of salt!
I have a great history with my AD, was in a few weeks ago where he told me he hasn’t received any ss Daytona for ages (I’m on the top 5 of his list for the black and white dial)
He was trying to convince me to buy a TT model which I honestly love but showed some hesitancy so he walked in and came came out with the black dial Daytona and straight out said if you buy the TT, you get the SS daytona!!! The rest is history but I don’t know if I believe most of what comes out of AD mouths !!

[droptopman]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I honestly stopped trying to understand ADs! I deal with them with a huge grain of salt!
I have a great history with my AD, was in a few weeks ago where he told me he hasn’t received any ss Daytona for ages (I’m on the top 5 of his list for the black and white dial)
He was trying to convince me to buy a TT model which I honestly love but showed some hesitancy so he walked in and came came out with the black dial Daytona and straight out said if you buy the TT, you get the SS daytona!!! The rest is history but I don’t know if I believe most of what comes out of AD mouths !!

Wow! Do not even know what to say. Guess I would be pissed but also hard pressed not to do the deal if I really wanted the watch. Pretty shady though...

[pilotjim]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I honestly stopped trying to understand ADs! I deal with them with a huge grain of salt!
I have a great history with my AD, was in a few weeks ago where he told me he hasn’t received any ss Daytona for ages (I’m on the top 5 of his list for the black and white dial)
He was trying to convince me to buy a TT model which I honestly love but showed some hesitancy so he walked in and came came out with the black dial Daytona and straight out said if you buy the TT, you get the SS daytona!!! The rest is history but I don’t know if I believe most of what comes out of AD mouths !!

That is absolutely pathetic!

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I honestly stopped trying to understand ADs! I deal with them with a huge grain of salt!
I have a great history with my AD, was in a few weeks ago where he told me he hasn’t received any ss Daytona for ages (I’m on the top 5 of his list for the black and white dial)
He was trying to convince me to buy a TT model which I honestly love but showed some hesitancy so he walked in and came came out with the black dial Daytona and straight out said if you buy the TT, you get the SS daytona!!! The rest is history but I don’t know if I believe most of what comes out of AD mouths !!

Meaning you bought two watches? Or you rolled your eyes at a liar and walked out?

[red1108nyc]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I honestly stopped trying to understand ADs! I deal with them with a huge grain of salt!
I have a great history with my AD, was in a few weeks ago where he told me he hasn’t received any ss Daytona for ages (I’m on the top 5 of his list for the black and white dial)
He was trying to convince me to buy a TT model which I honestly love but showed some hesitancy so he walked in and came came out with the black dial Daytona and straight out said if you buy the TT, you get the SS daytona!!! The rest is history but I don’t know if I believe most of what comes out of AD mouths !!

I would not care what watch or deal it is but if your AD just lied to your face.. I would call him a DB and walked right out.

[DoctorA]

Originally Posted by red1108nyc

I would not care what watch or deal it is but if your AD just lied to your face.. I would call him a DB and walked right out.

An opinion to be respected! But let me ask, isn’t that what most ADs are doing? What about the fake lists? What about the watches that miraculously appear when a PM watch is bought?

As much as I hate their games, I’d rather be given the options and I choose!!

[crazymcmichael]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I honestly stopped trying to understand ADs! I deal with them with a huge grain of salt!
I have a great history with my AD, was in a few weeks ago where he told me he hasn’t received any ss Daytona for ages (I’m on the top 5 of his list for the black and white dial)
He was trying to convince me to buy a TT model which I honestly love but showed some hesitancy so he walked in and came came out with the black dial Daytona and straight out said if you buy the TT, you get the SS daytona!!! The rest is history but I don’t know if I believe most of what comes out of AD mouths !!

............... this is the most agressive way to do business.......... what the..

[sportsmaven20]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I honestly stopped trying to understand ADs! I deal with them with a huge grain of salt!
I have a great history with my AD, was in a few weeks ago where he told me he hasn’t received any ss Daytona for ages (I’m on the top 5 of his list for the black and white dial)
He was trying to convince me to buy a TT model which I honestly love but showed some hesitancy so he walked in and came came out with the black dial Daytona and straight out said if you buy the TT, you get the SS daytona!!! The rest is history but I don’t know if I believe most of what comes out of AD mouths !!

IMHO, I understand that ADs can run their business how they choose, but it leaves a very, very bad taste in my mouth when I hear comments that an AD has your desired watch in stock, but will only sell it if you buy another one.

I understand many will on this forum will have no problem with that sales strategy, but I’m not a fan at all!

I have a great relationship with my AD and I truly believe he would never use that strategy with me, so I guess it comes down to your AD relationship.

In reality, if my AD tried that strategy on me, then I would have to seriously re-think if the relationship is what I think it is.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by sportsmaven20

IMHO, I understand that ADs can run their business how they choose, but it leaves a very, very bad taste in my mouth when I hear comments that an AD has your desired watch in stock, but will only sell it if you buy another one.

I understand many will on this forum will have no problem with that sales strategy, but I’m not a fan at all!

I have a great relationship with my AD and I truly believe he would never use that strategy with me, so I guess it comes down to your AD relationship.

In reality, if my AD tried that strategy on me, then I would have to seriously re-think if the relationship is what I think it is.

Agree. Largely because they are making it clear it's not about "relationship" but just overall spend. Buy your way into the club, so to speak.

It's all the same in the end, some are just more ladylike/gentlemanly about how they do it.

To me, though, there are two reasons that "relationship" matters: Obtaining hard-to-find models at retail, and obtaining run-of-the-mill models at discount.

[bdex75]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I honestly stopped trying to understand ADs! I deal with them with a huge grain of salt!
I have a great history with my AD, was in a few weeks ago where he told me he hasn’t received any ss Daytona for ages (I’m on the top 5 of his list for the black and white dial)
He was trying to convince me to buy a TT model which I honestly love but showed some hesitancy so he walked in and came came out with the black dial Daytona and straight out said if you buy the TT, you get the SS daytona!!! The rest is history but I don’t know if I believe most of what comes out of AD mouths !!

Dirty. But very believable. How long of a history do you have with this AD? I have about a 10 year history with mine and don’t think they would play that game. They are a small AD so the ceramic dayona is a rare occurrence anyhow. And I am sure the owner and all his buddies get them.

Glad I have zero desire to own the watch.

You would be better off buying one from a gray and paying the $16,000 to $17,000 it will take to get it. By the time you resold the TT you bought at msrp (both assumptions) plus tax you will be better off paying the premium at the gray and walking away from the AD.


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[DoctorA]

Originally Posted by bdex75

Dirty. But very believable. How long of a history do you have with this AD? I have about a 10 year history with mine and don’t think they would play that game. They are a small AD so the ceramic dayona is a rare occurrence anyhow. And I am sure the owner and all his buddies get them.

Glad I have zero desire to own the watch.

You would be better off buying one from a gray and paying the $16,000 to $17,000 it will take to get it. By the time you resold the TT you bought at msrp (both assumptions) plus tax you will be better off paying the premium at the gray and walking away from the AD.


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It’s super dirty agree but unfortunately that’s how a lot of ADs are making the rules of the game now!!
I bought one othe Rolex from Jim before, and if it wasn’t that I wanted the TT skyD anyway I wouldn’t have bought them both

For full honesty he gave me a good discount on the skyD and of course the Daytona C at MSRP

I have a list of watches I want still and it might sound desperate but trying to strengthen a relationship with one AD is better.
My other AD I bought 4 rolexes from hasn’t delivered me or called me for a daytona! So as dirty as it is at least it’s masks down and I get to choose to either walk away or play by their rules!!

[037]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

My other AD I bought 4 rolexes from hasn’t delivered me or called me for a daytona!

Did you ask them for one? That can make all of the difference. My previous AD of 15 years never once called me for a Daytona despite buying nearly a dozen watches from them for myself and family. But, I never asked them for one, either.

[DoctorA]

Originally Posted by 037

Did you ask them for one? That can make all of the difference. My previous AD of 15 years never once called me for a Daytona despite buying nearly a dozen watches from them for myself and family. But, I never asked them for one, either.

of course I did! (Multiple times) and was promised multiple times that I will receive one “within a month or two” and of course nothing!

[masyv6]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

I am starting to learn that a lot of people have serious trouble getting SS Subs/GMTs and Daytona watch models. I have no prior with my AD, minus parent history. I emailed him about coming in this weekend to look at YM Rhodium vs SS Sub with date. He said no problem I have them both for you... same AD who let me try on a black/white Daytona (albeit he said it was “already sold”)...buuuut I think I could convince to sell it to me.

My only leverage is that I told him I would buy my girlfriend’s engagement ring from him which is still a year plus away...

Is this a complete anomaly?

Are you actually going to buy an engagement ring from him? After seeing some of the crazy markups many retail jewelers have, I'm not surprised he'll sell you some hot Rolexes so you'll come back for the rock

[Navarino]

Originally Posted by masyv6

Are you actually going to buy an engagement ring from him? After seeing some of the crazy markups many retail jewelers have, I'm not surprised he'll sell you some hot Rolexes so you'll come back for the rock

I'd be surprised if he'd sell the watch in advance of the engagement ring.

I was actually considering this recently. Was planning on going to a different AD that does diamond rings since I was in the market. They couldn't even assure me I'd get a SS Daytona in say, 6 months, even if I bought the ring from them (in excess of $25K too, so not a "small" purchase). All I was told that it would drastically help my position on their "list." I ended up going with a diamond dealer and getting a much better deal. If the AD could have offered me the Daytona as part of the ring purchase I would have definitely paid the premium on the stone to get the watch.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Carry The Interest

I'd be surprised if he'd sell the watch in advance of the engagement ring.

I was actually considering this recently. Was planning on going to a different AD that does diamond rings since I was in the market. They couldn't even assure me I'd get a SS Daytona in say, 6 months, even if I bought the ring from them (in excess of $25K too, so not a "small" purchase). All I was told that it would drastically help my position on their "list." I ended up going with a diamond dealer and getting a much better deal. If the AD could have offered me the Daytona as part of the ring purchase I would have definitely paid the premium on the stone to get the watch.

It is a very sorry state when you have to find a fiancée before you can get a Rolex.

[JTL31]

Originally Posted by AK797

It is a very sorry state when you have to find a fiancée before you can get a Rolex.

[Etschell]

i can go tonight to my ad and they will pay me to take a ss sports model. so no not rare.