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Old 14 April 2018, 03:07 AM   #1
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red sub dial vs service red sub dial.

I wanted to get opinions hopefully from savvy collectors:

I have found a Rolex red sub for sell with a service dial. The service dial does have the red SUBMARINER on it with tritium markers, and because it is new(er) the red is very bright, which is nice, the dial looks new, and it is sold by a Rolex dealer, so no issue as far as authenticity.

My question is: is it less valuable and if so by how much? from a similar condtion sub with the original dial.

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Old 14 April 2018, 04:51 AM   #2
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Pictures would be very helpful to determine value.
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Old 14 April 2018, 08:23 AM   #3
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I don’t have any pictures, sorry. But my question isn’t about buying it, it is more of a general question.
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Old 14 April 2018, 09:09 AM   #4
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Yes, watches with service dials are less valuable (not sure of the difference because subs aren't my thing)
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Old 14 April 2018, 09:17 AM   #5
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I’m not sure there is a red tritium service dial for the 1680, though happy to stand corrected.

There are red luminova dials, some of which are marked T < 25 as if they are tritium but the markers are actually luminova. I would recommend checking with the seller if this is the case here.
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Old 14 April 2018, 12:26 PM   #6
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Now that you mention it, I remember once reading the same thing. They are lumina dials. Thanks, now I have my answer.
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Old 14 April 2018, 01:25 PM   #7
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I believe there is tritium service red sub dial. Extremely rare and very expensive. Unless it’s authenticated by members here, I would approach with extreme caution.


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Old 14 April 2018, 03:52 PM   #8
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Red service dial does exist.
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Old 15 April 2018, 01:06 AM   #9
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There was a post on here a month or so back with a fantastic looking Red Sub with a service dial......looked great
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Old 15 April 2018, 12:55 PM   #10
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I believe there is tritium service red sub dial. Extremely rare and very expensive. Unless it’s authenticated by members here, I would approach with extreme caution.


I blame it on the autoconnect.


Do you know where we can find of picture of a bona fide example of a tritium red service dial?


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[QUOTE=southtexas;8487559]Do you know where we can find of picture of a bona fide example of a tritium red service dial?

I apologize if linking to this forum is against TRF but here is an example:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/53958...ichael+Reitzel

My understanding is that it's a luminova dial done with the RED SUBMARINER text. I've seen it referenced as a Mark VIII service dial. Feet first, open 6's. I've also seen an example on a website of the less pronounced open 6's declared a Mark VIII dial. Maybe @Springer might be able to clarify if this is correct?
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Old 15 April 2018, 11:59 PM   #12
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Do you know where we can find of picture of a bona fide example of a tritium red service dial?



I apologize if linking to this forum is against TRF but here is an example:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/53958...ichael+Reitzel



My understanding is that it's a luminova dial done with the RED SUBMARINER text. I've seen it referenced as a Mark VIII service dial. Feet first, open 6's. I've also seen an example on a website of the less pronounced open 6's declared a Mark VIII dial. Maybe @Springer might be able to clarify if this is correct?


Thanks but looking for tritium service dial


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Old 16 April 2018, 01:43 AM   #13
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I’d love to have a luminova service dial for my 1680. I’d put luminova hands and pearl in The old insert too- modern convenience on the vintage cool.

I was unable to find one a couple years ago when I restored mine (has a mark I white dial now) and I’ve not seen one since.
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Old 4 June 2019, 11:42 AM   #14
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I’d love to have a luminova service dial for my 1680. I’d put luminova hands and pearl in The old insert too- modern convenience on the vintage cool.

I was unable to find one a couple years ago when I restored mine (has a mark I white dial now) and I’ve not seen one since.
The are impossible to find now sadly, I wouldnt mine one myself. I feel like the sun set on these dials a year or so ago
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Old 5 June 2019, 01:29 AM   #15
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I had one a few years ago. The hands were service hands. It did make the dial look a bit weird, overall i would rather pay a for a matching set rather than the discount of service hands
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Here's a good thread about a red 1680 service dial, but not tritium. There's a photo toward the end of the thread of a red luminova dial that is marked with the "T," as happened for a short time.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=584477
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we are in a bubble. I would recommend waiting till prices cool and better examples become available
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