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phez · 23 April 2018, 09:30 PM

Until recently my PT DD40 was gaining less than a second a day when worn. However, when on a winder, lost around 5 seconds a day. But always reverted to gaining less than s second a day when worn.

After being on a winder for 3 weeks while I was on vacation during which is lost 5 seconds a day, now when worn, it consistently loses about 2-3 seconds a day.

The watch is 14 months old.

Should I be concerned or should I delete the Watch Tracker app and just enjoy the watch?

ccaballero · 23 April 2018, 09:31 PM

Watch within COSC. Seems fine to me.

SearChart · 23 April 2018, 09:32 PM

Get rid of the app and the winder.

beshannon · 23 April 2018, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccaballero

Watch within COSC. Seems fine to me.

Agreed. It is one think to check performnance but you have spent more time measuring and posting that what your watch is off by.

padi56 · 23 April 2018, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phez

Until recently my PT DD40 was gaining less than a second a day when worn. However, when on a winder, lost around 5 seconds a day. But always reverted to gaining less than s second a day when worn.

After being on a winder for 3 weeks while I was on vacation during which is lost 5 seconds a day, now when worn, it consistently loses about 2-3 seconds a day.

The watch is 14 months old.

Should I be concerned or should I delete the Watch Tracker app and just enjoy the watch?

Delete watch tracker then perhaps you will start to enjoy your watch, and sell the machine winder no Rolex needs a machine to wind it.Plus the fact on a machine winder the watch is normally on the same plane and axis just going back and throw in the same position 24/7.While on the wrist and what the watch was designed for could show different accuracy because then they will be in many different positions thats how they are tested at COSC. But in the real world we are talking about a few seconds out of 86400 in a day,in life there far more important things to worry about than a few seconds .

77T · 23 April 2018, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phez

Until recently my PT DD40 was gaining less than a second a day when worn. However, when on a winder, lost around 5 seconds a day. But always reverted to gaining less than s second a day when worn.

I think you had the best evidence right there. Your wrist beckons...

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MonBK · 23 April 2018, 10:03 PM

Get a better winder.

Rags · 23 April 2018, 10:17 PM

Really, who cares about a second here or there.

Watch Admirer · 23 April 2018, 10:32 PM

yes

tyler1980 · 23 April 2018, 10:39 PM

the winder is going to be different than on your wrist as its not the same pattern. So basically it would be possible to regulate it to the winder or your wrist, not both. Its seems relatively consistent in both cases and wearing habits affect the rate to which you could then have it regulated to.

For example I could borrow your watch and it might be +2 for me based on how i wear it and +1 for you. Gravity, positioning, rest time at night, etc can all account for this.

TacticaLCawacoL · 23 April 2018, 10:49 PM

My advice: when you don’t wear your watch just leave it as it is in a pouch or its box.

Just wind it as needed when you set the time and when you start wearing it again.

otherminds · 23 April 2018, 10:50 PM

That is well within the standards... I wouldn't sweat it at all! Enjoy it!

Byrdguy · 23 April 2018, 10:56 PM

My Hulk gains about 4 seconds a day. I wear it 24-7. It's the least of my worries.

dafuture · 23 April 2018, 11:51 PM

Just enjoy. The watch is regulated to +2/-2. That seems within spec and should even out if you wear it more often. It sounds like your DD doesn't like the winder though.

Syed117 · 24 April 2018, 12:30 AM

I think everyone goes through these kinds of things at some point.

I used to do the same. Constantly checking accuracy. Syncing time ever few days.

You will enjoy your watch much more after you get beyond this phase. When I get a new watch, I check accuracy once or twice and as long as it is reasonable, I'm done.

Keptone · 24 April 2018, 01:21 AM

Delete the tracker and enjoy wearing your watch.

liuk3 · 24 April 2018, 01:55 AM

Unload the winder. Waste of money, and your watch doesn't seem to like it.

Byrdguy · 24 April 2018, 02:03 AM

I just reset mine whenever it is a couple of minutes fast. Usually reset it when a date reset is required. No worries. I've worn three different Subs (24-7) since about 1986 and all of them ran slightly fast.

won01419 · 24 April 2018, 02:22 AM

I definitely went thru this phase for good few weeks. I don't check accuracy any more.

joli160 · 24 April 2018, 02:28 AM

It needs service

enjoythemusic · 24 April 2018, 04:10 AM

i trust on-wrist accuracy as winders are notorious for not being 'accurate' in obtaining proper results. Your on-wrist accuracy looks great :)

gooter · 24 April 2018, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phez

am I fussing too much?

yes

JacksonStone · 24 April 2018, 05:22 AM

I'll offer a counterpoint and say I don't think you are fussing too much. For one, COSC is not the standard anymore. The current Superlative Chronometer standards of +/- 2 spd went into effect in 2015, so that's the standard for your watch; -3 would be outside spec. (COSC is +6/-4.) Second, I'm less concerned about the absolute specs than I am about the relative shift in rate. The watch was gaining maybe one second per day; now it's losing as much as three. That's a net change of up to 4 seconds per day, or 400% of what the previous change-per-day was. If that were my watch, I would be concerned, too.

Whether that concern warrants a trip to the AD or RSC is another matter. I'd be inclined to keep an eye on it to see if it changes any more. If it gets worse, I would certainly take it in if it were my watch. If it never gets any worse, then you'll have to decide if you can live with it. If it's not outside of spec (e.g., if it's right at -2) you might have trouble getting a regulation covered under warranty.

dcash0615 · 24 April 2018, 06:00 AM

Your watch is running perfectly fine. Enjoy it and delete the watch tracker app.

polaris72 · 24 April 2018, 06:02 AM

Wear your watch. My winders do the same, but I don’t care, as I enjoy the comfort of grabbing whatever watch I want to wear without resetting time.

mrblue · 24 April 2018, 06:06 AM

Nothing to worry about. Enjoy your watch.

MinMay · 24 April 2018, 06:14 AM

If I want to know the time, I look at my phone :)

Dirt · 24 April 2018, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phez

Until recently my PT DD40 was gaining less than a second a day when worn. However, when on a winder, lost around 5 seconds a day. But always reverted to gaining less than s second a day when worn.

After being on a winder for 3 weeks while I was on vacation during which is lost 5 seconds a day, now when worn, it consistently loses about 2-3 seconds a day.

The watch is 14 months old.

Should I be concerned or should I delete the Watch Tracker app and just enjoy the watch?

Accuracy on the wrist is the most important measure.
You have got a very good watch that is displaying superb accuracy.

Delete the stupid Watch Tacker app. It's clouding your judgement and poisoning your mind.
Just put the watch on and marvel at its outstanding capability.
Oh, and don't forget to check the time whilst gazing at it.

Dirt · 24 April 2018, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

Get a better winder.

The OP has the very best winder already.
It's right near the end of their arm.

vette boy 52 · 24 April 2018, 07:21 AM

Get rid of the winder. It is not needed except for perpetual calendar watches that are not worn on a daily basis.

23 April 2018, 09:30 PM	#1
phez "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Real Name: Paul Location: uk Watch: PT DD40 Ice Blue Posts: 443	Time accuracy, am I fussing too much? Until recently my PT DD40 was gaining less than a second a day when worn. However, when on a winder, lost around 5 seconds a day. But always reverted to gaining less than s second a day when worn. After being on a winder for 3 weeks while I was on vacation during which is lost 5 seconds a day, now when worn, it consistently loses about 2-3 seconds a day. The watch is 14 months old. Should I be concerned or should I delete the Watch Tracker app and just enjoy the watch? __________________ PT Rolex DD40 Ice Blue Quadrant Dial Blue Romans TT Tudor Glamour Double Date Black dial Grand Seiko Skyflake Grand Seiko GMT blue dial and blue GMT hand

23 April 2018, 10:17 PM	#8
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23 April 2018, 10:39 PM	#10
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	the winder is going to be different than on your wrist as its not the same pattern. So basically it would be possible to regulate it to the winder or your wrist, not both. Its seems relatively consistent in both cases and wearing habits affect the rate to which you could then have it regulated to. For example I could borrow your watch and it might be +2 for me based on how i wear it and +1 for you. Gravity, positioning, rest time at night, etc can all account for this. __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

23 April 2018, 10:49 PM	#11
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23 April 2018, 11:51 PM	#14
dafuture "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: NYC Posts: 1,944	Just enjoy. The watch is regulated to +2/-2. That seems within spec and should even out if you wear it more often. It sounds like your DD doesn't like the winder though. __________________ Current Rolex Submariner 126610LN \|\| Cartier Tank Americaine

23 April 2018, 09:31 PM	#2
ccaballero "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Florida Watch: None Posts: 646	Watch within COSC. Seems fine to me.

23 April 2018, 10:03 PM	#7
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	Get a better winder.

23 April 2018, 10:32 PM	#9
Watch Admirer Banned Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: somewhere Posts: 350	yes

23 April 2018, 10:50 PM	#12
otherminds 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 89	That is well within the standards... I wouldn't sweat it at all! Enjoy it!

23 April 2018, 10:56 PM	#13
Byrdguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Florida Panhandle Watch: Sub C LV, Posts: 490	My Hulk gains about 4 seconds a day. I wear it 24-7. It's the least of my worries.

24 April 2018, 12:30 AM	#15
Syed117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Syed Location: The Ether Posts: 3,388	I think everyone goes through these kinds of things at some point. I used to do the same. Constantly checking accuracy. Syncing time ever few days. You will enjoy your watch much more after you get beyond this phase. When I get a new watch, I check accuracy once or twice and as long as it is reasonable, I'm done.

24 April 2018, 01:21 AM	#16
Keptone Banned Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Alex Location: Boca Raton Watch: 228235, PP 5167 Posts: 114	Delete the tracker and enjoy wearing your watch.

24 April 2018, 01:55 AM	#17
liuk3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,354	Unload the winder. Waste of money, and your watch doesn't seem to like it. __________________ "Appreciate your life!"

24 April 2018, 02:03 AM	#18
Byrdguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Florida Panhandle Watch: Sub C LV, Posts: 490	I just reset mine whenever it is a couple of minutes fast. Usually reset it when a date reset is required. No worries. I've worn three different Subs (24-7) since about 1986 and all of them ran slightly fast.

24 April 2018, 02:22 AM	#19
won01419 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 34	I definitely went thru this phase for good few weeks. I don't check accuracy any more.

24 April 2018, 02:28 AM	#20
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,759	It needs service __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

24 April 2018, 04:10 AM	#21
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,180	i trust on-wrist accuracy as winders are notorious for not being 'accurate' in obtaining proper results. Your on-wrist accuracy looks great :) __________________ __________________ ----> Was Great Seeing Everyone At The TRF December 9 Tampa Meetup <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=968133 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

24 April 2018, 05:22 AM	#23
JacksonStone Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,150	I'll offer a counterpoint and say I don't think you are fussing too much. For one, COSC is not the standard anymore. The current Superlative Chronometer standards of +/- 2 spd went into effect in 2015, so that's the standard for your watch; -3 would be outside spec. (COSC is +6/-4.) Second, I'm less concerned about the absolute specs than I am about the relative shift in rate. The watch was gaining maybe one second per day; now it's losing as much as three. That's a net change of up to 4 seconds per day, or 400% of what the previous change-per-day was. If that were my watch, I would be concerned, too. Whether that concern warrants a trip to the AD or RSC is another matter. I'd be inclined to keep an eye on it to see if it changes any more. If it gets worse, I would certainly take it in if it were my watch. If it never gets any worse, then you'll have to decide if you can live with it. If it's not outside of spec (e.g., if it's right at -2) you might have trouble getting a regulation covered under warranty.

24 April 2018, 06:00 AM	#24
dcash0615 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: CA Watch: es Posts: 4,395	Your watch is running perfectly fine. Enjoy it and delete the watch tracker app. __________________ Instagram @dcash0615 2FA security active

24 April 2018, 06:02 AM	#25
polaris72 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: U.S./Vienna, AT Posts: 1,967	Wear your watch. My winders do the same, but I don’t care, as I enjoy the comfort of grabbing whatever watch I want to wear without resetting time.

24 April 2018, 06:06 AM	#26
mrblue "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Connecticut Posts: 156	Nothing to worry about. Enjoy your watch.

24 April 2018, 06:14 AM	#27
MinMay Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: United States Posts: 2,410	If I want to know the time, I look at my phone :)

24 April 2018, 07:21 AM	#30
vette boy 52 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Katy, TX Watch: GMT II-c TT Posts: 773	Get rid of the winder. It is not needed except for perpetual calendar watches that are not worn on a daily basis.

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