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Old 3 May 2018, 07:21 PM   #1
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Manual winding

When you take your watch out of storage, do you always give it a full manual wind first? or do you just put it on and hope enough arm movement will keep it going?
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Old 3 May 2018, 07:22 PM   #2
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I'll wind it 30-40 times, unless it's a non manual Seiko with magic lever.
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Old 3 May 2018, 07:34 PM   #3
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When you take your watch out of storage, do you always give it a full manual wind first? or do you just put it on and hope enough arm movement will keep it going?
Surely if you've taken the watch out of storage you'd wind and set before you wear it?

Just putting the watch on to let it start with arm movement is pointless, the time/date etc will be off so you may as well not have it running at all.



I'm happy to be enlightened as to why someone would do this

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Old 3 May 2018, 07:37 PM   #4
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Surely if you've taken the watch out of storage you'd wind and set before you wear it?



Just putting the watch on to let it start with arm movement is pointless, the time/date etc will be off so you may as well not have it running at all.







I'm happy to be enlightened as to why someone would do this





Apologies if posting wasn’t clear. I meant that time and date would be set. My question was would you then manual wind ?


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Old 3 May 2018, 07:39 PM   #5
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I wind my automatic watches 20 turns if its completely dead
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Old 3 May 2018, 07:49 PM   #6
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Apologies if posting wasn’t clear. I meant that time and date would be set. My question was would you then manual wind ?
If your Rolex is like mine (a 3135-based Sub Date), you'd have to give it 20 turns before the thing even starts; you wouldn't be able to set it without doing at least that much. But yes, I give it a full wind of 40 turns.
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Old 3 May 2018, 07:50 PM   #7
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I've tried just putting it on wearing it for a couple of minutes and then adjusting, both ways work fine.
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Old 3 May 2018, 07:58 PM   #10
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Yep �� 30 (ish) turns on the crown. The watch is working most effectively when its >50% wound so it’s good practice to wind it manually to start it from stopped and then whilst wearing it'll “top up” from the automatic winding system.
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When you take your watch out of storage, do you always give it a full manual wind first? or do you just put it on and hope enough arm movement will keep it going?
Any watch thats stored will need a full manual wind first before wearing,and by wearing dont mean you are winding your watch.Its wrist activity movement that winds the watch, and in today's age its doubtful in wearing will some fully wind there watches.
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Old 3 May 2018, 08:29 PM   #12
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A full 40 full winds.
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Old 3 May 2018, 08:35 PM   #13
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Any watch thats stored will need a full manual wind first before wearing,and by wearing dont mean you are winding your watch.Its wrist activity movement that winds the watch, and in today's age its doubtful in wearing will some fully wind there watches.
I just give mine a few turns to start them Peter.

They are automatic watches after all.

I would never give my auto watches a full manual wind unless I was checking the PR.

Hope you are keeping well.
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Old 3 May 2018, 08:38 PM   #14
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Yes, 40 winds. The self winding rotor is only really good for keeping a fully wound watch topped up. Once its stopped, you need to give it a full wind for peak performance. Wrist action/ movement alone is insufficient.

I love winding my watches and I'm always doing it even when I don't need to. Winding allows a man to interact with his watch.
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Old 3 May 2018, 08:41 PM   #15
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I always fully wind first, then set the time.
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Old 3 May 2018, 08:43 PM   #17
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My watches never run down, but on occasion, I will give each a full 40 turn wind.
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Old 3 May 2018, 08:57 PM   #18
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I just give mine a few turns to start them Peter.

They are automatic watches after all.

I would never give my auto watches a full manual wind unless I was checking the PR.

Hope you are keeping well.
Well been winding mine for well over 40 years if stopped, and no harm whatsoever if you wind 60 times.As to how I am keeping still breathing thats the main,had major surgery and have now lost a kidney to remove tumour.
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Old 3 May 2018, 09:03 PM   #19
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set the time, might either wind it a few times or give it a couple of brisk shakes, then on with it.
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Old 3 May 2018, 09:04 PM   #20
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Yes, 40 winds. The self winding rotor is only really good for keeping a fully wound watch topped up. Once its stopped, you need to give it a full wind for peak performance. Wrist action/ movement alone is insufficient.

I love winding my watches and I'm always doing it even when I don't need to. Winding allows a man to interact with his watch.
The 'self wind' rotor on a Rolex doesn't just keep them 'topped up'.

The rotor will wind them full until the mainspring slips.

Either that or the rotor stops.

When I take my 14060 off my wrist on Fridays at 4:30 it will run for as long as a full wind (until Sunday afternoon).

YMMV.

As Peter has said fully winding has done his Rolex watches no harm but the question from the OP was do you fully manually wind your automatic Rolex?

I can say that I have had an issue with an auto ETA movements when I have wound it daily.
It was a Ball Fireman II that I used as a bedside clock (tritium tubes) and when it began to spin the rotor when manual winding it went in for repair
The Ball watchmaker in Sydney said the the ETA auto movement was not designed for constant manual winding.
They would not fix what they called 'accelerated wear by manual winding' under warranty.

Funny that I only have one Ball watch.
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If it's running I usually do about 20 turns, if it's stopped I do 40
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I do manual winding. I heard it’s safer that way.
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Well been winding mine for well over 40 years if stopped, and no harm whatsoever if you wind 60 times.As to how I am keeping still breathing thats the main,had major surgery and have now lost a kidney to remove tumour.
I hope your recovery is going well Peter, happy thoughts for you and a speedy recovery
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Unless I wore it the day before I generally always wind them. I kind of enjoy doing it though, necessary...perhaps not but I do it anyway.
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Apologies if posting wasn’t clear. I meant that time and date would be set. My question was would you then manual wind ?


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If your Rolex is like mine (a 3135-based Sub Date), you'd have to give it 20 turns before the thing even starts; you wouldn't be able to set it without doing at least that much. But yes, I give it a full wind of 40 turns.


My T serial starts after about 2-4 turns


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Old 3 May 2018, 11:12 PM   #27
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Wind it to get it started 30 or so
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Old 3 May 2018, 11:30 PM   #28
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If I take it off for more than 24 hours and/or it has stopped I’ll give it a full wind to start the movement. I never shake the watch to start the movement.
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Old 3 May 2018, 11:33 PM   #29
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I do, but I'm kind of strange like that.
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Sure I do probably does not need it but I like winding my watches
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