Does the TT submariner have any drawbacks over SS?

[BigBoi69]

I'm 100% buying a submariner, I absolutely love the TT but when compared with the SS. Does it have any practical drawbacks? I don't want to have to worry every time I put it on, I hear that the gold is soft, can dent and scratch easier.

What do you guys think?

[Seibei]

Originally Posted by BigBoi69

I'm 100% buying a submariner, I absolutely love the TT but when compared with the SS. Does it have any practical drawbacks? I don't want to have to worry every time I put it on, I hear that the gold is soft, can dent and scratch easier.

What do you guys think?

Yes, gold is a bit softer. I think most would say that the biggest drawback is that it is not currently fashionable. If you don't mind that, then the TT sounds like the watch for you.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by Seibei

Yes, gold is a bit softer. I think most would say that the biggest drawback is that it is not currently fashionable. If you don't mind that, then the TT sounds like the watch for you.

You missed Basel 2018 ?

[BigBoi69]

So is the gold a drawback or not?

[RolexComplex]

You said you absolutely love the TT, so buy what you love. Both gold and stainless steel will get scratches — that’s life.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by BigBoi69

So is the gold a drawback or not?

The only drawback is that the gold PCLs are more prone to scratches and will pick up hairline scratches from normal clothing.

You’ll only see the hairlines under intense light so if you’re cool with that it’s fine. If not then you may struggle




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[Beelzy]

The gold is a scratch magnet, but it's hard to dent the links. The only drawback to TT
is resale value. They take a bigger hit than SS. But who cares, you're not supposed
sell it off anyway. Enjoy your new Sub!

[bp1000]

More obvious scratches especially on clasp. That’s it

However my LV has pretty bad scratches that look worse than the light but many scratches on my bluesey

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by BigBoi69

So is the gold a drawback or not?

18ct gold is undoubtedly a softer metal than stainless steel so it certainly can “dent and scratch” easier. If you’re a professional spelunker, rock climber or you’re unnaturally clumsy then it might be a problem. If you’re an average guy with an average job and average hobbies then it’s no drawback at all.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by BigBoi69

So is the gold a drawback or not?

For everyday I would recommend the SS.

The TT is a beautiful watch, but discreet it 'aint..lol.

As the owner of both, I can honestly say I am very selective of when & where I wear the TT as it can look a bit 'flash' and you don't always want to draw that kind of attention to yourself.

You won't regret either, but decide if it's a daily wearer for every occasion or to keep for special occasions

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[tyler1980]

the drawback anytime you are talking about TT is it isnt classic. It will go into and out of style. A SS watch is always in style. Nothing against TT, but its true. Its on an upswing now for sure.

[thesharkfactor]

Not fashionable, bluesy???? Nonsense.
Take a bigger hit than SS, utter tripe!!!

Bluesy is very fashionable, it's perhaps the most beautiful Rolex.
It is also one of the best TT's to hold its value. My own is worth same or more today as pre-owned than I paid for it new with stickers on in 2016.

You will take a bigger "hit" on an SS or PM Submariner.

Isn't classic? It's been about over 30years ffs..

Please don't say anything unless you know what you are talking about....

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

Not fashionable, bluesy???? Nonsense.
Take a bigger hit than SS, utter tripe!!!

Bluesy is very fashionable, it's perhaps the most beautiful Rolex.
It is also one of the best TT's to hold its value. My own is worth same or more today as pre-owned than I paid for it new with stickers on in 2016.

You will take a bigger "hit" on an SS or PM Submariner.

Isn't classic? It's been about over 30years ffs..

Please don't say anything unless you know what you are talking about....

you can buy one pretty much any time, anywhere. They are getting more popular but most people dont want one. 10 years ago even less people did. Its a nice looking watch but its a smaller market for sure. Its not cost why less people buy it vs SS. Its an entirely different look.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

Not fashionable, bluesy???? Nonsense.
Take a bigger hit than SS, utter tripe!!!

Bluesy is very fashionable, it's perhaps the most beautiful Rolex.
It is also one of the best TT's to hold its value. My own is worth same or more today as pre-owned than I paid for it new with stickers on in 2016.

You will take a bigger "hit" on an SS or PM Submariner.

Isn't classic? It's been about over 30years ffs..

Please don't say anything unless you know what you are talking about....

Sorry, I don't fully agree with everything you've said there.

On Chrono24 you can save all your watches and it constantly monitors their performance.

Not that I'm a flipper or anything but it's always nice to know how your watches are doing.

Anyway, as you will see from the screen shots of my account below, the SS Sub is holding its own and has actually increased slightly in value since I bought it.

The TT not quite so good and is worth 7% less than what I paid.

It's not right to say the TT holds its value better than the SS.

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[thesharkfactor]

Guy was asking if there were any drawbacks, folks told him: he will lose more money than SS (false), not as fashionable (to who?), it's not classic (it's 30yrs old). You are saying it's less popular (drawback?, no - he says he absolutely loves TT).

[thesharkfactor]

Very good... however I bought mine for £8495.. so it's worth 100% of what I paid minus lunch (bought Nov '16 two days before the UK increase), thank you for clarifying what I said with a screenshot to prove I was correct.

[joli160]

Resale and swirls/ scratches don't concern me personally. I like the look of TT. It's blingy, more so than PM imo.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

Guy was asking if there were any drawbacks, folks told him: he will lose more money than SS (false), not as fashionable (to who?), it's not classic (it's 30yrs old). You are saying it's less popular (drawback?, no - he says he absolutely loves TT).

im not talking about resale. I am saying he may not love it if TT goes out of style. I have clothes i like but no longer wear because they look out of place today. Its a concern absolutely. Especially so if you are never selling it. There are several TT watches i like, but wearability in 20 years is something i do think about.

I like AP ROO's too. They are great watches. Do i think many of them will be in style and popular in 20 years? No. So spending that kind of money on something that may not be as timeless would be a factor in that situation too.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

Guy was asking if there were any drawbacks, folks told him: he will lose more money than SS (false), not as fashionable (to who?), it's not classic (it's 30yrs old). You are saying it's less popular (drawback?, no - he says he absolutely loves TT).

You are not right in what you are saying.

The TT will lose more money than the SS version...that's just a fact no matter how much you are a fan of the TT the secondary market prices prove this.

You cannot show me any evidence of a TT increasing in value more than its SS counterpart.

2 watches the same age, same condition, the SS will have increased by a higher % from its original purchase price than the TT.

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[henry333]

No drawbacks besides cost more.. also it might not scratch more reason is if you compare to a regular SS sub it is full brushed and the TT is polish center links. So kind of hard to compare.

[thesharkfactor]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

You are not right in what you are saying.

The TT will lose more money than the SS version...that's just a fact no matter how much you are a fan of the TT the secondary market prices prove this.

You cannot show me any evidence of a TT increasing in value more than its SS counterpart.

2 watches the same age, same condition, the SS will have increased by a higher % from its original purchase price than the TT.

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Correct.. however, this "advice" the OP was given was generalised advice about Rolex TT watches, of which the Submariner TT is a different subject altogether and was being ignored, the general TT opinion was projected.

A Rolex TT is a poor buy, you will lose. A TT Submariner is excluded from this though, it's different. You know this..

[Swiss Mad!]

You are totally missing the point!

What you are saying is that the watch you bought in 2016 is now worth more than you paid for it.

Fair enough, but what I am saying is that of MY 2 watches both bought in 2017, the SS version is holding its own and has actually increased slightly (+1%) but the TT has lost money (-7%) over the same time period.

Obviously overtime the TT will come back and through price rises etc I fully expect it to be worth at least what I paid for it or even a little more.

The SS however at the same point in the future will have increased by a far greater % than the TT ever will.

Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

Very good... however I bought mine for £8495.. so it's worth 100% of what I paid minus lunch (bought Nov '16 two days before the UK increase), thank you for clarifying what I said with a screenshot to prove I was correct.

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[thesharkfactor]

You miss the point! There is a poster above saying if you buy a TT Sub you will take a big hit. I'm saying that's rubbish. You will not take as big a hit on a TT sub as you would on a DJ or Daytona? Come on...

Jeez.. buy a TT Daytona at full price you'll lost £6k instantly.. buy a TT Sub you lose what £500? Buy an SS Sub if you can find one, you'll still lose £500 instantly or maybe gain £500.. but it's no big "hit".

[BigBoi69]

Would you say your TT has any practical limitations?

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

You miss the point! There is a poster above saying if you buy a TT Sub you will take a big hit. I'm saying that's rubbish. You will not take as big a hit on a TT sub as you would on a DJ or Daytona? Come on...

Agreed, but we weren't talking about DJ's...

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[meganfox17]

Originally Posted by Seibei

Yes, gold is a bit softer. I think most would say that the biggest drawback is that it is not currently fashionable. If you don't mind that, then the TT sounds like the watch for you

I think Mr. Paul Pluta disagrees with your assessment...

[kman82]

ultimately both are really nice watches. but if i have to choose only 1, i'll take the SS.

cons: scratch magnet, less versatile to match different clothes/look.
pros: looks more bling and luxurious

[Swiss Mad!]

It's just a more 'dressier'option.

The SS is more practical for everyday use.

The polished gold parts on the bracelet & clasp will scratch far eisier on the TT for sure.

If your careful you will be fine.

My two clasps below for comparison.

I have to say I only wear the TT occasionally, the SS most other days in rotation with a couple of other SS watches.

Both holding up pretty well to be fair.

Originally Posted by BigBoi69

Would you say your TT has any practical limitations?

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[thesharkfactor]

Lol.. correct..we talking about Sub TT, so why the guy above going on about a big hit then.. because he doesn't know what he is talking about and trying to offer it as advice.

[thesharkfactor]

Limitations? 300m

Notes:
Scratches easy.
Not as bright as SS which is bright shiny white always.
TT needs lots of light or it looks dull.
Much ignorance surrounding the model.
Jealousy from SS wearers (joke).
Wears well with anything but not as practical as SS.
Looks it's best either brand new unmarked or with at least a years use on it...otherwise it just looks like a nice watch with a scratch on it.
Bezel is incorrect blue shade for the dial unless you buy the flat blue dial (pre 2013).