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butehuk · 20 May 2018, 01:56 AM

Dear all,

This one has a serial of 1.4mil and said to be from 1966. Does it have the so called "long E" and "long L"? is everything right? or it is a replaced dial?

Matdaytona · 20 May 2018, 02:12 AM

Should be gilt dial is a later replacement

storm66 · 20 May 2018, 04:28 AM

Isn’t it in the transitional date range?
So could be Gilt dial or Matt

roh123 · 20 May 2018, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by storm66

Isn’t it in the transitional date range?
So could be Gilt dial or Matt

Still a bit early but if we are even to discuss it you would want to see a mk1 matte dial. This is later.

springer · 20 May 2018, 05:42 AM

It's wearing a Mark V replacement dial. Insert is a much later service part and the hands have been changed also. A "long E" dial is a Mark I dial with white lettering.

1.4 million is well within gilt dial territory.

storm66 · 20 May 2018, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by roh123

Still a bit early but if we are even to discuss it you would want to see a mk1 matte dial. This is later.

Alfasin · 20 May 2018, 08:02 AM

Not a fan of those lugs :(

omitohud · 20 May 2018, 10:38 AM

Better upload more pictures. The case looks peculiar.

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alwayshere · 20 May 2018, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

It's wearing a Mark V replacement dial. Insert is a much later service part and the hands have been changed also. A "long E" dial is a Mark I dial with white lettering.

1.4 million is well within gilt dial territory.

Springer knows GMTs and I think the rule of thumb is anything within the 1.5m and prior serials should be gilt. 1.6m has some transitionals - arguably.

ahantel · 20 May 2018, 02:30 PM

There are a "Mark 0" matte's as early as 1.38m but that's not this. Unless it's a Mark 0 matte with a small GMT hand, 1.4m is generally considered the late gilt range.

springer · 20 May 2018, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ahantel

There are a "Mark 0" matte's as early as 1.38m but that's not this. Unless it's a Mark 0 matte with a small GMT hand, 1.4m is generally considered the late gilt range.

My past experience indicates the Mark 0 could be found in the high 1.4 million range. I know you have a GMT 1675 1.38 million Mark 0 on your web site but I'm not convinced about that watch and dial combination.

20 May 2018, 01:56 AM	#1
butehuk "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 18	1675 matte dial - serial 1.4mil - original dial? Dear all, This one has a serial of 1.4mil and said to be from 1966. Does it have the so called "long E" and "long L"? is everything right? or it is a replaced dial?

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springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	It's wearing a Mark V replacement dial. Insert is a much later service part and the hands have been changed also. A "long E" dial is a Mark I dial with white lettering. 1.4 million is well within gilt dial territory. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

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Alfasin "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 320	Not a fan of those lugs :( __________________ https://www.instagram.com/dquinn74/ - 74 6283 Sigma Big Red - 70 1680 Tropical Red Sub - 89 5513 Glossy Dial

20 May 2018, 02:12 AM	#2
Matdaytona "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mat Location: Somerset uk Watch: Rolex daytona Posts: 574	Should be gilt dial is a later replacement

20 May 2018, 04:28 AM	#3
storm66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: london Posts: 842	Isn’t it in the transitional date range? So could be Gilt dial or Matt

20 May 2018, 10:38 AM	#8
omitohud "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: los Angeles Posts: 2,051	Better upload more pictures. The case looks peculiar. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 May 2018, 02:30 PM	#10
ahantel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: USA Watch: 5512, 1016, 1675 Posts: 61	There are a "Mark 0" matte's as early as 1.38m but that's not this. Unless it's a Mark 0 matte with a small GMT hand, 1.4m is generally considered the late gilt range.

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