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Reluctantly · 11 June 2018, 04:07 AM

Hi there,

I've had this watch lying around for ages. I can't find any pictures of old Tudors that resemble it and was wondering if anyone can help with identification. (Nothing looking like this comes up when I search for this model number). Is it likely to be authentic? Fake (what would be leading indications that it's a fake)? A ballpark estimate for the year if it's authentic?

There are two number on the back of the case: a five digit number and a four digit number below it. The numbers appear to be 14885 and 4463.

Any words would be much appreciated. Thank you.

DLRIDES · 11 June 2018, 04:47 AM

Ask in the vintage section

https://www.rolexforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=32

spoilsofwar01 · 11 June 2018, 05:28 AM

The model is 4463, the other number is the serial number, any pictures of the movement?

MILGAUSS88 · 11 June 2018, 08:38 AM

I have not seen a font like that on a Tudor before, so I would guess that it has been redialed.

ROGERB · 11 June 2018, 09:07 AM

Ditto on the repaint/redial..

R

Reluctantly · 11 June 2018, 10:09 AM

Yes, the font was the main thing I was curious about - also the way the lugs attach to the casing, can't find images of any Tudors with similar cases.

Reluctantly · 11 June 2018, 08:22 PM

Can anyone recommend a good place to have it checked out/serviced in London?

Old Expat Beast · 11 June 2018, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reluctantly

Yes, the font was the main thing I was curious about - also the way the lugs attach to the casing, can't find images of any Tudors with similar cases.

As mentioned, it is a redial. The 4453 and 4463 were early Tudors, and these model numbers were also used late 30s/early 40s by the Oyster Watch Company, which was another cheaper sub brand of Rolex. I suspect yours was either OWC or a very early Tudor (mid 40s) with the rose inside the shield logo. Inside of the caseback will have the name of one or the other. Lugs are unusual but ok.

Reluctantly · 11 June 2018, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

As mentioned, it is a redial. The 4453 and 4463 were early Tudors, and these model numbers were also used late 30s/early 40s by the Oyster Watch Company, which was another cheaper sub brand of Rolex. I suspect yours was either OWC or a very early Tudor (mid 40s) with the rose inside the shield logo. Inside of the caseback will have the name of one or the other. Lugs are unusual but ok.

Thanks very much for responding - that's helpful. I've never opened the thing, I suppose that's the next thing to do...

11 June 2018, 04:07 AM	#1
Reluctantly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Cambridge Posts: 6	What is this old Tudor? Real? Fake? Hi there, I've had this watch lying around for ages. I can't find any pictures of old Tudors that resemble it and was wondering if anyone can help with identification. (Nothing looking like this comes up when I search for this model number). Is it likely to be authentic? Fake (what would be leading indications that it's a fake)? A ballpark estimate for the year if it's authentic? There are two number on the back of the case: a five digit number and a four digit number below it. The numbers appear to be 14885 and 4463. Any words would be much appreciated. Thank you. Attached Images

11 June 2018, 04:47 AM	#2
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11 June 2018, 05:28 AM	#3
spoilsofwar01 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: "H" Location: England Watch: ing Rainclouds Posts: 1,439	The model is 4463, the other number is the serial number, any pictures of the movement? __________________ "H" 5513 Submariner 1968 114270 Explorer 2005 Smiths W10 1968 Tissot Seastar 2011

11 June 2018, 08:38 AM	#4
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 3,194	I have not seen a font like that on a Tudor before, so I would guess that it has been redialed.

11 June 2018, 09:07 AM	#5
ROGERB "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: WHITE ROCK BC Watch: 89 16610, 57 7914, Posts: 897	Ditto on the repaint/redial.. R

11 June 2018, 10:09 AM	#6
Reluctantly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Cambridge Posts: 6	Yes, the font was the main thing I was curious about - also the way the lugs attach to the casing, can't find images of any Tudors with similar cases.

11 June 2018, 08:22 PM	#7
Reluctantly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Cambridge Posts: 6	Can anyone recommend a good place to have it checked out/serviced in London?

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