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Bigvin · 27 June 2018, 02:43 PM

Hi folks,

I'm the Canadian owner of a IWC Big Pilot that was originally purchased in the US, but made its way to Canada.

I am curious if anyone knows if duty would have to be paid on the watch again if it was purchased and brought back into the US?

Cheers!

tyler1980 · 27 June 2018, 02:56 PM

probably. if it is being re imported permanently

dmash · 27 June 2018, 03:00 PM

I know in the EU, the answer is no, if you can show that the item was originally purchased in the EU.

For example, I had a computer, with 19% VAT paid in Germany, but left it at my parent's house in the US. They then shipped it to me, and I showed the local tax office my original receipt (with the serial numbers matching) and how the original purchase was made in Germany and tax had already been paid. Zero issues and I was on my way.

I'm *almost positive* this is the exact same thing in the US. I'm also *almost positive* it is illegal to 'double tax' any item, regardless of where it travels after the fact. If this were the case, government could claim you owe tax on every item in your suitcase when you go on international travel.

Bigvin · 27 June 2018, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dmash

I know in the EU, the answer is no, if you can show that the item was originally purchased in the EU.

For example, I had a computer, with 19% VAT paid in Germany, but left it at my parent's house in the US. They then shipped it to me, and I showed the local tax office my original receipt (with the serial numbers matching) and how the original purchase was made in Germany and tax had already been paid. Zero issues and I was on my way.

I'm *almost positive* this is the exact same thing in the US. I'm also *almost positive* it is illegal to 'double tax' any item, regardless of where it travels after the fact. If this were the case, government could claim you owe tax on every item in your suitcase when you go on international travel.

That's what I am hoping. From limited experience, importing a vehicle back into the US you do not have to pay tax/duty again.

dmash · 27 June 2018, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigvin

That's what I am hoping. From limited experience, importing a vehicle back into the US you do not have to pay tax/duty again.

Please keep us updated if you get a solid, 100% answer. I'm sure other people might be interested in this, and the solution will be archived in this thread if anybody searches

beshannon · 27 June 2018, 07:51 PM

Are you moving back to the US?

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...inventory-list

Abdullah71601 · 27 June 2018, 08:05 PM

I moved back to the US last year after years in the ME. All my property was well documented declared by the broker. Anything that was purchased in the US returned duty free.

That includes online purchases, BTW. If you bought something from a US retailer and shipped it to your foreign address, it's still considered a US purchase and will return duty free.

gettocard · 27 June 2018, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigvin

Hi folks,

I'm the Canadian owner of a IWC Big Pilot that was originally purchased in the US, but made its way to Canada.

I am curious if anyone knows if duty would have to be paid on the watch again if it was purchased and brought back into the US?

Cheers!

watch on your wrist,box in the suitcase and money in your pocket.

Abdullah71601 · 27 June 2018, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gettocard

watch on your wrist,box in the suitcase and money in your pocket.

I think he wants advice on the legal way, not the illegal tax cheat way.

gettocard · 27 June 2018, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I think he wants advice on the legal way, not the illegal tax cheat way.

I know. Sorry,can't resist that,I'm italian it's in my blood,we hate taxes. I do pay all of my taxes but that kind of thing ? No thanks,there's a limit to decency..

beshannon · 27 June 2018, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gettocard

watch on your wrist,box in the suitcase and money in your pocket.

Federal crime committed, items seized, fine levied and possible jail time.

Over a watch?

gettocard · 27 June 2018, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Federal crime committed, items seized, fine levied and possible jail time.

Over a watch?

did it gazilion of times and never been caught. I've never even been asked to remove sandals or belts at security checks either..I must look like a good guy or an air marshal,you name it..

beshannon · 27 June 2018, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gettocard

did it gazilion of times and never been caught. I've never even been asked to remove sandals or belts at security checks..I must look like a good guy or an air marshal,you name it..

Got it and thank you for continuing to admit and encourage committing a federal crime.

dmash · 28 June 2018, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Got it and thank you for continuing to admit and encourage committing a federal crime.

Why does it seem we are the only two people to ever tell people not to do this?

27 June 2018, 02:43 PM	#1
Bigvin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 2	Repatriating a watch to the US Hi folks, I'm the Canadian owner of a IWC Big Pilot that was originally purchased in the US, but made its way to Canada. I am curious if anyone knows if duty would have to be paid on the watch again if it was purchased and brought back into the US? Cheers!

27 June 2018, 02:56 PM	#2
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	probably. if it is being re imported permanently __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

27 June 2018, 07:51 PM	#6
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	Are you moving back to the US? https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...inventory-list __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

27 June 2018, 03:00 PM	#3
dmash Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA <> BKK Posts: 6,160	I know in the EU, the answer is no, if you can show that the item was originally purchased in the EU. For example, I had a computer, with 19% VAT paid in Germany, but left it at my parent's house in the US. They then shipped it to me, and I showed the local tax office my original receipt (with the serial numbers matching) and how the original purchase was made in Germany and tax had already been paid. Zero issues and I was on my way. I'm almost positive this is the exact same thing in the US. I'm also almost positive it is illegal to 'double tax' any item, regardless of where it travels after the fact. If this were the case, government could claim you owe tax on every item in your suitcase when you go on international travel.

27 June 2018, 08:05 PM	#7
Abdullah71601 Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Calumet Harbor Watch: ing da Bears Posts: 13,568	I moved back to the US last year after years in the ME. All my property was well documented declared by the broker. Anything that was purchased in the US returned duty free. That includes online purchases, BTW. If you bought something from a US retailer and shipped it to your foreign address, it's still considered a US purchase and will return duty free.

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