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Old 21 December 2008, 04:57 AM   #1
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Glad Tidings

Just popped into wish everyone a merry Christmas and blessed new year. Remember Jesus is the Reason for the Season.



Have been Rolexless for a few months now, not been about much as I find it a bit to painful to participate. anyway, stay safe this Christmas....
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Old 21 December 2008, 05:01 AM   #2
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Thanks Jon- Keep well and merry christmas to you too
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Old 21 December 2008, 05:04 AM   #3
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Happy Holidays to you as well. I hope 2009 brings a Rolex to your wrist.
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Old 21 December 2008, 05:09 AM   #4
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Old 21 December 2008, 05:50 AM   #5
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Merry Christmas to you too! Let the glory of the Lord rise among us
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Old 21 December 2008, 06:06 AM   #6
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Remember Jesus is the Reason for the Season.

Unless you are Moslem, Hindu, Bhuddist, Sikh, Jewish, . . .

The World's Top Ten Religions By Number of Members

Religion Members Percentage
Christianity 2.1 billion 33.0%
Islam 1.5 billion 21%
Hinduism 900 million 14%
Buddhism 376 million 6%
Sikhism 23 million 0.36%
Judaism 14 million 0.22%
Baha'ism 7 million 0.1%
Confucianism 6.3 million 0.1%
Jainism 4.2 million 0.1%
Shintoism 4 million 0.0%
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Old 21 December 2008, 06:14 AM   #7
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Unless you are Moslem, Hindu, Bhuddist, Sikh, Jewish, . . .

The World's Top Ten Religions By Number of Members

Religion Members Percentage
Christianity 2.1 billion 33.0%
Islam 1.5 billion 21%
Hinduism 900 million 14%
Buddhism 376 million 6%
Sikhism 23 million 0.36%
Judaism 14 million 0.22%
Baha'ism 7 million 0.1%
Confucianism 6.3 million 0.1%
Jainism 4.2 million 0.1%
Shintoism 4 million 0.0%
Yes BUT Christmas is a Christian Festival. Other religions have different celebrations at Different times of the year; except Chanukah which is usually in December. Lets enjoy them all
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Old 21 December 2008, 06:17 AM   #8
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Merry Christmas to you too!!! Have a good time with your family
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Old 21 December 2008, 06:26 AM   #9
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Old 21 December 2008, 06:26 AM   #10
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This is the UK and here we celebrate the tradition and Christian Festival of CHRISTmas.

Enjoy it whatever you believe
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Old 21 December 2008, 06:44 AM   #11
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This is the UK and hear we celebrate the tradition and Christian Festival of CHRISTmas.

Enjoy it whatever you believe
This is the United States, where we do not have a national church, and along with Christmas, we celebrate Christmas, Hunnukah, Eid, Kawanza, and the end of the year, no matter the religion. I wonder what percentage of Rolexes sold worldwide in December are Christmas presents, versus being bought to celebrate another holiday or just the season. Think about all the Islamic countries that are big Rolex consumers, not to mention China, India, and all the Jewish Rolex customers! Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the Orthodox Church celebrates Jesus's birth a number of weeks later?

I wish everyone a happy and healthy holiday season and New Year!
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Old 21 December 2008, 06:54 AM   #12
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I cant wait for this holiday to be over..

AD's are getting too crowded w/ id1ots at the mall.. cant get in there to try some Subs on persons.
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Old 21 December 2008, 06:58 AM   #13
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Jon, best of wishes to you Buddy and a merry christmas to youa nd your loved ones.
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Old 21 December 2008, 07:04 AM   #14
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I hope everyone enjoys participating in their respective holidays and that a Rolex finds its way back to your wrist soon Jon. Been missing your posts, You know you don't need to own Rolex, just love Rolex.
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Old 21 December 2008, 07:10 AM   #15
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Unless you are Moslem, Hindu, Bhuddist, Sikh, Jewish, . . .

The World's Top Ten Religions By Number of Members

Religion Members Percentage
Christianity 2.1 billion 33.0%
Islam 1.5 billion 21%
Hinduism 900 million 14%
Buddhism 376 million 6%
Sikhism 23 million 0.36%
Judaism 14 million 0.22%
Baha'ism 7 million 0.1%
Confucianism 6.3 million 0.1%
Jainism 4.2 million 0.1%
Shintoism 4 million 0.0%
Thanks for the unrequested lesson in political correctness. However, you're incorrect. Jesus IS the reason for the Christmas season.
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Old 21 December 2008, 07:16 AM   #16
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This is the United States, where we do not have a national church, and along with Christmas, we celebrate Christmas, Hunnukah, Eid, Kawanza, and the end of the year, no matter the religion. I wonder what percentage of Rolexes sold worldwide in December are Christmas presents, versus being bought to celebrate another holiday or just the season. Think about all the Islamic countries that are big Rolex consumers, not to mention China, India, and all the Jewish Rolex customers! Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the Orthodox Church celebrates Jesus's birth a number of weeks later?

I wish everyone a happy and healthy holiday season and New Year!
No, we dont have a national church here, but 78% of Americans are Christian.
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Old 21 December 2008, 07:17 AM   #17
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Everytime my girl say's "Let's put up a tree" I end carrying a messy, needle dropping brush into the 2nd story of my home. "Let's put up some lights" I end up climbing a ladder and freezing digits off. Gotta love the season. Merry Christmas everyone!
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Queen, the original post says "Jesus is the reason for the season." It did not say Jesus is the reason for the "Christmas Season." Clearly, Jesus is the reason for Christmas. My point was that people, who are not Christians, are celebrating the season too.

I wish everyone good seasonal tidings.
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No, we dont have a national church here, but 78% of Americans are Christian.

And your point is?
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I prefer not to take such a strict constructionist tact of interpretation. Jesus is the reason for the season" is a well known phrase most often associated with Christmas. Do a very small handful of Jews and Muslims in the US and UK celebrate Hanukkah and Eid, respectively? Sure, but the point is Christmas is the predominant holiday of the season. I am tired of people taking the balls out of Christmas.
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And your point is?
When discussing the "holiday season" in America, its usually Christmas and there should not be a need to footnote the celebrations of every religious group when mentioning Christmas. It doesnt matter that we dont have a national church; we are a Christian nation.
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I prefer not to take such a strict constructionist tact of interpretation. Jesus is the reason for the season" is a well known phrase most often associated with Christmas. Do a very small handful of Jews and Muslims in the US and UK celebrate Hanukkah and Eid, respectively? Sure, but the point is Christmas is the predominant holiday of the season. I am tired of people taking the balls out of Christmas.
People celebrate the holidays, and practice their religion in their individual ways. Who is taking the "balls out of Christmas"? (BTW, I find it offensive to describing Christmas as if the holiday has testicles). As long as no one is forcing their beliefs upon others, or infringing other people's civil rights, Christmas should be celebrated as devoutly or as secularly as each family wishes. My suggestion is that if you are concerned that Christmas is too commercialized, or the meaning of the holiday is somehow being diluted, start at home, and focus on what you do to celebrate the birth of your savior, don't worry what other people are doing.

BTW, although it has a nice ring to it, I never hear the expression "Jesus is the reason for the season" before and I still stand by my original comment that despite the nice rhyme, it is incorrect.
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When discussing the "holiday season" in America, its usually Christmas and there should not be a need to footnote the celebrations of every religious group when mentioning Christmas. It doesnt matter that we dont have a national church; we are a Christian nation.
You think so, huh? Our government was formed to protect the minority from the tyranny of majority. As Wikipedia puts it:

Limits on the decisions that can be made by such majorities, such as constitutional limits on the powers of parliament and use of a bill of rights in a parliamentary democracy, are commonly meant to reduce the problem.

The idea goes back at least as far as Plato's Republic, while the phrase itself originated with Alexis de Tocqueville in his Democracy in America (1835, 1840) and was further popularized by John Stuart Mill, who cites de Tocqueville, in On Liberty (1859); the Federalist Papers frequently refer to the concept, though usually under the name of "the violence of majority faction," particularly in Federalist 10.

As long as we hold true to this fundamental precept of our democracy, we are not a Christian nation.

The United States is a nation of minorities. It always has been and is more now than ever. The fact that the american population is predominently Christian does not make our country a Christan nation.
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People celebrate the holidays, and practice their religion in their individual ways. Who is taking the "balls out of Christmas"? (BTW, I find it offensive to describing Christmas as if the holiday has testicles). As long as no one is forcing their beliefs upon others, or infringing other people's civil rights, Christmas should be celebrated as devoutly or as secularly as each family wishes. My suggestion is that if you are concerned that Christmas is too commercialized, or the meaning of the holiday is somehow being diluted, start at home, and focus on what you do to celebrate the birth of your savior, don't worry what other people are doing.

BTW, although it has a nice ring to it, I never hear the expression "Jesus is the reason for the season" before and I still stand by my original comment that despite the nice rhyme, it is incorrect.
Ryan, I am enjoying our scholarly debate. I am not concerned Christmas is too commercialized; my concern lies in the secularization of Christmas. Its now Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. Manger scenes are either taken down or accompanied by Menorahs and crescents.

I should point out that you incorrectly assume that "Jesus is my savior." I'm simply a Jewish guy who is exasperated with the pervasiveness of political correctness.
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You think so, huh? Our government was formed to protect the minority from the tyranny of majority. As Wikipedia puts it:

Limits on the decisions that can be made by such majorities, such as constitutional limits on the powers of parliament and use of a bill of rights in a parliamentary democracy, are commonly meant to reduce the problem.

The idea goes back at least as far as Plato's Republic, while the phrase itself originated with Alexis de Tocqueville in his Democracy in America (1835, 1840) and was further popularized by John Stuart Mill, who cites de Tocqueville, in On Liberty (1859); the Federalist Papers frequently refer to the concept, though usually under the name of "the violence of majority faction," particularly in Federalist 10.

As long as we hold true to this fundamental precept of our democracy, we are not a Christian nation.

The United States is a nation of minorities. It always has been and is more now than ever. The fact that the american population is predominently Christian does not make our country a Christan nation.
You're citing Wikipedia? Regardless, I disagree; we are a Christian nation because Christianity is the majority population. Our legal system more closely resembles Judeo-Christian values than it does Sharia law, for instance.
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Ryan, I am enjoying our scholarly debate. I am not concerned Christmas is too commercialized; my concern lies in the secularization of Christmas. Its now Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. Manger scenes are either taken down or accompanied by Menorahs and crescents.

I should point out that you incorrectly assume that "Jesus is my savior." I'm simply a Jewish guy who is exasperated with the pervasiveness of political correctness.
First of all name is Brian. If you are Jewish, why are you so concern about the secularization of Christmas? I suggest you be more concerned about maintaining the secularization of our country.
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Who would have thought that wishing someone a merry Christmas would be so very difficult. I may be in Texas, but I know that in Britain it is custom to say Merry Christmas. That's what the Brits do and they don't have a problem with it.

Merry Christmas, Jon.
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I prefer not to take such a strict constructionist tact of interpretation. Jesus is the reason for the season" is a well known phrase most often associated with Christmas. Do a very small handful of Jews and Muslims in the US and UK celebrate Hanukkah and Eid, respectively? Sure, but the point is Christmas is the predominant holiday of the season. I am tired of people taking the balls out of Christmas.
hilarious... does this have anything to do with the pine being your favorite tree??
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