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Skittman · 6 July 2018, 02:04 AM

Hi all,

I have a deal in principal agreed for a new/unworn Patek Phillipe Aquanaut 5164r.

The deal involves a straight trade for:

2017 used 116500LN (White Dial)
2017 used 116505 (Chocolate Dial)

I have had 5 Daytona's in total now, amongst many other Rolex and AP models.

This would be my first experience with Patek.

Would you guys make the trade?

Appreciate your input.

V25V · 6 July 2018, 02:06 AM

Have you tried on the 5164 yet?

Skittman · 6 July 2018, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by V25V

Have you tried on the 5164 yet?

No
I will do so on Saturday

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Wools · 6 July 2018, 02:08 AM

Totally.

Although Rolex are brilliant, I feel I would rather have a few watches from multiple brilliant watch makers that a 4 Digit Sub, a 5 Digit Sub etc.

Keep your favourite Daytona and then get that Patek! It's a very different watch but it's beautiful. I'm very envious! :)

Cru Jones · 6 July 2018, 02:08 AM

I’d add an Aquanaut, but wouldn’t trade two good watches for one. 5711? Yes.

jrs146 · 6 July 2018, 02:08 AM

Hard to say. All of the watches listed are really great references. Also depends on what else is in the collection. So I think it’s more a matter of personal preference than anything else.

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Skittman · 6 July 2018, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jrs146

Hard to say. All of the watches listed are really great references. Also depends on what else is in the collection. So I think it’s more a matter of personal preference than anything else.

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Thus makes sense financially to yourself?

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Burlington · 6 July 2018, 02:21 AM

I would say try it on first, then decide which one(s) you would rather live without.

V25V · 6 July 2018, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Skittman

No
I will do so on Saturday

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Try it on and see if it speaks to you. I am not sure I would trade, I would probably add but the 5164 is a great piece!

jps3b · 6 July 2018, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

I’d add an Aquanaut, but wouldn’t trade two good watches for one. 5711? Yes.

I’m with this. Don’t like the rubber bracelet/strap. So if it was me, I wouldn’t do the trade for the aquanaut. But good luck with the decision

padi56 · 6 July 2018, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skittman

Hi all,

I have a deal in principal agreed for a new/unworn Patek Phillipe Aquanaut 5164r.

The deal involves a straight trade for:

2017 used 116500LN (White Dial)
2017 used 116505 (Chocolate Dial)

I have had 5 Daytona's in total now, amongst many other Rolex and AP models.

This would be my first experience with Patek.

Would you guys make the trade?

Appreciate your input.

Simple answer no.

Seekthefinest · 6 July 2018, 02:42 AM

Didn't realize you could actually procure the Patek Phillipe Aquanaut 5164r for less than MSRP. Looks like a pretty even trade based on the secondary market value for the 116500LN and the 116505.

I guess you are trading two Rolex's, including one that is full 18k gold for a Patek with a gold case and a rubber band...

Dr.Smellody · 6 July 2018, 02:42 AM

I would not.

cpefy3 · 6 July 2018, 02:43 AM

Nope, I dislike the rubber band on the 5164r. If it were a 5711/5712 then most def.

Wcdhtwn · 6 July 2018, 02:51 AM

Do you have to decide before seeing the PP? If not, obviously trying it on and seeing how you like it on the wrist is the critical first step. Assuming you do like it I'd be OK with this trade. Normally I wouldn't trade two Rolex for an Aquanaut but a RG one changes things a bit.

D O C · 6 July 2018, 02:53 AM

Negative.

dafuture · 6 July 2018, 03:01 AM

That actually sounds like a pretty even swap money-wise. What else do you have in your collection that would remain? I don't blame you for wanting a Patek. Unlike some others here, I actually enjoy the rubber strap (my grail is a 5164 Travel Time).

uhren917 · 6 July 2018, 03:07 AM

3 nice watches, but still it would be hard for me to give up 2 relatively new Daytonas for 1 Patek Phillipe that is the 'junior' sport watch w.r.t. the Nautilus, even though the Aquanaut is also very hard to get as well.

77T · 6 July 2018, 03:12 AM

My guess is you'd get unanimous validation in the PP section, but the Rolex fans are prolly scratching their heads.

Rather than the trade, do you have the resources to buy the PP and then sell those two Daytona's? That would yield the best financial outcome.

Pruning the Daytona's to make room for the Aquanaut is not an issue IMHO.

jrs146 · 6 July 2018, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Skittman

Thus makes sense financially to yourself?

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Yeah the money is close enough.

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DLRIDES · 6 July 2018, 04:03 AM

Since you have 5 Daytonas, boot 2 of them and go for the Patek !

Masteryacht · 6 July 2018, 04:29 AM

I wouldn’t because the aquanaut does absolutely nothing for me. In fact, I think they’re quite plain and blah. Don’t do it just because it’s a Patek, do it because you have fallen in love with the watch. If you have to ask, you’re not in love with it.

indexmatch · 6 July 2018, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Skittman

I have had 5 Daytona's in total now

Just to clarify this point, you currently have 5 Daytonas and looking to trade 2 in? or throughout the years you've owned 5 Daytonas (implying you don't own 5 currently)?

Honestly, I'd lean making the trade either way, but if you currently have 5 Daytonas, I'd definitely make the trade, if only for variety and the fact that I really like the 5164r.

If you move Daytonas a lot, perhaps you like the design but it goes in and out of favor for you. If that's the case, maybe keep the 500 and look for a trade on a 5164a instead?

Just a thought, fwiw, I have always been a Rolex guy but added a Patek last year and to me it was well worth the trade, although I added a Nautilus I really do love the 5164 ref as well

Skittman · 6 July 2018, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indexmatch

Just to clarify this point, you currently have 5 Daytonas and looking to trade 2 in? or throughout the years you've owned 5 Daytonas (implying you don't own 5 currently)?

Honestly, I'd lean making the trade either way, but if you currently have 5 Daytonas, I'd definitely make the trade, if only for variety and the fact that I really like the 5164r.

If you move Daytonas a lot, perhaps you like the design but it goes in and out of favor for you. If that's the case, maybe keep the 500 and look for a trade on a 5164a instead?

Just a thought, fwiw, I have always been a Rolex guy but added a Patek last year and to me it was well worth the trade, although I added a Nautilus I really do love the 5164 ref as well

Thank you for that.

Total 5 daytonas down the years. Only 2 remain in ownership now.

116520
116515
116500 black
116500 white
116505

I don't feel the need for an extensive collection now a days.

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beshannon · 6 July 2018, 05:13 AM

No

indexmatch · 6 July 2018, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skittman

Thank you for that.

Total 5 daytonas down the years. Only 2 remain in ownership now.

116520
116515
116500 black
116500 white
116505

I don't feel the need for an extensive collection now a days.

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That makes sense and I like the notion of consolidating as well.

If it were me, I'd do it. I've never owned a Daytona, but I do have a couple Rolexes (BLNR and 116655), which I really enjoy and appreciate, but there's just something different about a Patek IMO. That said, I'm not surprised by TRF bias toward Rolex.

Regardless, please let us know and post some pics when you get a chance to try it on

jb335 · 6 July 2018, 05:24 AM

I love Patek but personally would not trade here simply because I don't like giving up so much for a watch on a rubber strap. If the rubber strap isn't an issue for you, go for it.

AK797 · 6 July 2018, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indexmatch

If you move Daytonas a lot, perhaps you like the design but it goes in and out of favor for you. If that's the case, maybe keep the 500 and look for a trade on a 5164a instead?

I really would do this, I am a PM guy but prefer the 64a, which I own, to the 64r and then I'd really keep hold of the white D500. Otherwise I'd sell another Rolex.

79280_116520 · 6 July 2018, 05:30 AM

Definitely for sure! You already have 5 Daytonas, so as long as you keep one good specimen, you should be good.

The Patek 5164R is in a totally different ballgame than the normal Rolex varieties. If you base the trade on MSRP, you come out ahead, even with the premium on the 500c.

I wouldn't do the trade if it was for the Nautilus 5711, since the $50k+ grey market value has already been "priced in".

Just remember though that the 5164R will be on a soft rubber strap. Perhaps try to separately source an Aquanaut bracelet to change it up?

Skittman · 6 July 2018, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indexmatch

That makes sense and I like the notion of consolidating as well.

If it were me, I'd do it. I've never owned a Daytona, but I do have a couple Rolexes (BLNR and 116655), which I really enjoy and appreciate, but there's just something different about a Patek IMO. That said, I'm not surprised by TRF bias toward Rolex.

Regardless, please let us know and post some pics when you get a chance to try it on

Will post pics on Saturday... with the 2 trade ins included

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6 July 2018, 02:04 AM	#1
Skittman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Stu Location: England Watch: Yes Please Posts: 193	Would you trade... First venture into Patek Hi all, I have a deal in principal agreed for a new/unworn Patek Phillipe Aquanaut 5164r. The deal involves a straight trade for: 2017 used 116500LN (White Dial) 2017 used 116505 (Chocolate Dial) I have had 5 Daytona's in total now, amongst many other Rolex and AP models. This would be my first experience with Patek. Would you guys make the trade? Appreciate your input. __________________ Current - 116500LN Daytona White. 116505 Daytona Chocolate. 326934 Sky Dweller Blue Previously Owned - Yachtmaster I - Blue Dial. Sub C Date.116520 Daytona - White Dial. 116600 SD4K. 116515LN Chocolate. 116500LN Black Dial. 26320 AP ROC

6 July 2018, 02:08 AM	#6
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	Hard to say. All of the watches listed are really great references. Also depends on what else is in the collection. So I think it’s more a matter of personal preference than anything else. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

6 July 2018, 02:21 AM	#8
Burlington "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 5,643	I would say try it on first, then decide which one(s) you would rather live without. __________________ “My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” ― Winston S. Churchill

6 July 2018, 02:53 AM	#16
D O C "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Jim Location: US Watch: Rolex 116710LN Posts: 600	Negative. __________________ ROLEX 116710 LN GMTII "Random" ROLEX 16710 GMTII Pepsi "P" ROLEX 16622 SS/PL YM 29mm "V"

6 July 2018, 03:01 AM	#17
dafuture "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: NYC Posts: 1,944	That actually sounds like a pretty even swap money-wise. What else do you have in your collection that would remain? I don't blame you for wanting a Patek. Unlike some others here, I actually enjoy the rubber strap (my grail is a 5164 Travel Time). __________________ Current Rolex Submariner 126610LN \|\| Cartier Tank Americaine

6 July 2018, 02:06 AM	#2
V25V 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA Posts: 4,406	Have you tried on the 5164 yet?

6 July 2018, 02:08 AM	#4
Wools "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 374	Totally. Although Rolex are brilliant, I feel I would rather have a few watches from multiple brilliant watch makers that a 4 Digit Sub, a 5 Digit Sub etc. Keep your favourite Daytona and then get that Patek! It's a very different watch but it's beautiful. I'm very envious! :)

6 July 2018, 02:08 AM	#5
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,300	I’d add an Aquanaut, but wouldn’t trade two good watches for one. 5711? Yes.

6 July 2018, 02:42 AM	#12
Seekthefinest "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: The South Watch: 116500LN White Posts: 111	Didn't realize you could actually procure the Patek Phillipe Aquanaut 5164r for less than MSRP. Looks like a pretty even trade based on the secondary market value for the 116500LN and the 116505. I guess you are trading two Rolex's, including one that is full 18k gold for a Patek with a gold case and a rubber band...

6 July 2018, 02:42 AM	#13
Dr.Smellody "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 5,416	I would not.

6 July 2018, 02:43 AM	#14
cpefy3 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Collin Location: Raleigh, NC Watch: 16014, 16600 Posts: 344	Nope, I dislike the rubber band on the 5164r. If it were a 5711/5712 then most def.

6 July 2018, 02:51 AM	#15
Wcdhtwn "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Houston Watch: SkyD, SD43, GMT2 Posts: 5,061	Do you have to decide before seeing the PP? If not, obviously trying it on and seeing how you like it on the wrist is the critical first step. Assuming you do like it I'd be OK with this trade. Normally I wouldn't trade two Rolex for an Aquanaut but a RG one changes things a bit.

6 July 2018, 03:07 AM	#18
uhren917 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: California Watch: 116710 BLNR Posts: 532	3 nice watches, but still it would be hard for me to give up 2 relatively new Daytonas for 1 Patek Phillipe that is the 'junior' sport watch w.r.t. the Nautilus, even though the Aquanaut is also very hard to get as well.

6 July 2018, 03:12 AM	#19
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,016	My guess is you'd get unanimous validation in the PP section, but the Rolex fans are prolly scratching their heads. Rather than the trade, do you have the resources to buy the PP and then sell those two Daytona's? That would yield the best financial outcome. Pruning the Daytona's to make room for the Aquanaut is not an issue IMHO. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

6 July 2018, 04:03 AM	#21
DLRIDES 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Don Location: NC/WY Watch: Me Posts: 4,675	Since you have 5 Daytonas, boot 2 of them and go for the Patek ! __________________ *Purchasing your first non HOA home on a 3 acre lot DOES NOT equate to owning a “farm”.*

6 July 2018, 04:29 AM	#22
Masteryacht "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: USA Watch: 16622,BLNR,116500 Posts: 1,009	I wouldn’t because the aquanaut does absolutely nothing for me. In fact, I think they’re quite plain and blah. Don’t do it just because it’s a Patek, do it because you have fallen in love with the watch. If you have to ask, you’re not in love with it.

6 July 2018, 05:13 AM	#25
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	No __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

6 July 2018, 05:24 AM	#27
jb335 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: The States Watch: Cosmograph Daytona Posts: 7,464	I love Patek but personally would not trade here simply because I don't like giving up so much for a watch on a rubber strap. If the rubber strap isn't an issue for you, go for it.

6 July 2018, 05:30 AM	#29
79280_116520 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Costa Posts: 255	Definitely for sure! You already have 5 Daytonas, so as long as you keep one good specimen, you should be good. The Patek 5164R is in a totally different ballgame than the normal Rolex varieties. If you base the trade on MSRP, you come out ahead, even with the premium on the 500c. I wouldn't do the trade if it was for the Nautilus 5711, since the $50k+ grey market value has already been "priced in". Just remember though that the 5164R will be on a soft rubber strap. Perhaps try to separately source an Aquanaut bracelet to change it up?

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