Friendly Reminder: Moped crime is soaring in London

[enjoythemusic]

There have been posts of Rolex watches being stolen by mopeds. Just a heads up as in the news yesterday....

https://www.statista.com/chart/14564...ing-in-london/

[Abdullah71601]

Terribly dangerous place, London is.

A guy could lose tens of thousands there, just buying dress shoes on High Street.

[dmash]

Not to stir the pot, but where are the London members who kept claiming everything seems to be the exact same? You can’t refute those numbers, if all other stuff remains the same, that’s ~17x more Moped related thefts in 3 years. Or to put it into perspective, from ~3 per day, to almost 50 per day. That’s a huge difference. And I’m the first to laugh at the ‘is it safe to take my Rolex to this city’ posts.

Imagine if it continues growing at this rate....

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by dmash

Not to stir the pot, but where are the London members who kept claiming everything seems to be the exact same? You can’t refute those numbers, if all other stuff remains the same, that’s ~17x more Moped related thefts in 3 years. Or to put it into perspective, from ~3 per day, to almost 50 per day. That’s a huge difference. And I’m the first to laugh at the ‘is it safe to take my Rolex to this city’ posts. This is obviously a very serious issue.

I promised myself I wouldn’t get suckered into another one of these but sod it...

I don’t refute the figures, they are from a cast iron source. The answer to your question is actually contained within your post “if all other stuff remains the same.” I suspect it doesn’t. What is the wider time context? What are the figures overall for theft from the person in London? Figures posted on another thread show that they are basically static. I can’t be arsed to find them but anybody desperately interested can search my post history for the relevant thread(s).

This makes complete sense. Think about it, let’s imagine mopeds had been banned in London in 2014. What do you suppose the would-be moped criminals would be doing now instead of robbing people on 2-wheels? Getting jobs volunteering in puppy shelters? Helping old ladies cross the road? Or would they be committing crimes in different ways e.g good old fashioned shoplifting or mugging? I think the answer logically is pretty clear.

So sure, be aware that moped crime is currently a thing in London. Just don’t make out that suddenly in the space of 3 years London has turned into Kandahar and people are living in fear for their watches because a bunch of punk kids have found a new way to act like thieving little bastards. (I’m not suggesting that you personally are doing this, nor the OP. Many people who’d struggle to locate London on a map though have done in recent weeks).

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

I promised myself I wouldn’t get suckered into another one of these but sod it...

I don’t refute the figures, they are from a cast iron source. The answer to your question is, what is the overall context? What are the figures overall for theft from the person in London? Figures posted on another thread show that they are basically static. I can’t be arsed to find them but anybody desperately interested can search my post history for the relevant thread(s).

This makes complete sense. Think about it, let’s imagine mopeds had been banned in London in 2014. What do you suppose the would be moped criminals would be doing now instead of robbing people on bikes? Getting jobs volunteering in puppy shelters? Helping old lady’s cross the road? Or would they be committing crimes in different ways e.g good old fashioned shoplifting or mugging? I think the answer logically is pretty clear.

So sure, be aware that moped crime is currently a thing in London. Don’t make out that suddenly in the space of 3 years London has turned into Kandahar and people are living in fear for their watches because a bunch of punk kids have found a new way to act like thieving little bastards.

Just for comparison, the FBI's uniform crime statistics show a decline in US street thefts the last five years. Nationwide, there were around 110,000 US street offenses in 2017. So, 17,000 in one city seems like a pretty large per capita intensity.

It's not like the sky is falling in London. But, it does make one wonder what the heck they are doing there to address this issue.

[gettocard]

Honestly I've learned not to belive 99% of what media says nowadays. Yes,it may be a new type of crime that is just evolving from something else that was already there before,now mopeds bring a new level of "specialization" with it. I know plenty of people living in London,even a very close relative of mine,they never,ever mention about feeling somehow unsafe walking the streets there.

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Just for comparison, the FBI's uniform crime statistics show a decline in US street thefts the last five years. Nationwide, there were around 110,000 US street offenses in 2017. So, 17,000 in one city seems like a pretty large per capita intensity.

It's not like the sky is falling in London. But, it does make one wonder what the heck they are doing there to address this issue.

I suppose the issue is that direct comparisons between countries are next impossible to make fairly because of the differing ways that crimes are reported and recorded.

The thing is, you are right that there are legitimate issues regarding policing (drastic cuts to budgets) and police numbers (drastic reduction) that are bound to be felt eventually. But then that’s a venture into politics and thread closure territory...

[Swearengen]

Vic Reeves said that 87% of all statistics were made up on the spot




Of course per Keynes in the long run we are all dead

[Peter99]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

There have been posts of Rolex watches being stolen by mopeds. Just a heads up as in the news yesterday....

https://www.statista.com/chart/14564...ing-in-london/

Statistics show its actually gone down over the last few months. Might be in proportion to the influx of migrants which has also gone down!

[Swearengen]

Thank you Nigel Farage

Originally Posted by Peter99

Statistics show its actually gone down over the last few months. Might be in proportion to the influx of migrants which has also gone down!

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Peter99

Statistics show its actually gone down over the last few months. Might be in proportion to the influx of migrants which has also gone down!

The number has gone down, or the rate has gone down?

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by Peter99

Statistics show its actually gone down over the last few months. Might be in proportion to the influx of migrants which has also gone down!

http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/28732/

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/28732/

Darn it. Can't blame the immigrants. Science screwed us again.