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Keadog · 4 August 2018, 10:00 PM

Long story but I have around $6K USD to spend on a watch. Prefer new. I know most Pateks and Rolexes (and AP) I would be interested in are all going for over MSRP pre-owned and hard/unable to get new (not that $6K would buy anything from those makers of course; $6K is my floor. Would like to keep total under $15K if possible).

Being a novice in the watch realm, what's out there that would be worth looking at?

JLC? Omega? VC? What brands (if any) are "out of style" now? I've never been "in style" anyhow and don't mind that at all.

Have a PP 5146, Polar EII and Hulk.

Open to either dress or sport. I wear the PP almost all the time unless I think it may get wet or dirty. That's what the EII is for.

Thanks for any suggestions!

Etschell · 4 August 2018, 10:15 PM

id say for 6k id get an air king.

under 15k id get either a sd43, ap diver black, sky dweller or 18238 day date,or dj 41.

you can go on watchrecon and put a limit of 15k to see what comes up.

brandrea · 4 August 2018, 10:18 PM

You may also wish to consider other brands such as Tudor, or Grand Seiko

Etschell · 4 August 2018, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

You may also wish to consider other brands such as Tudor, or Grand Seiko

panerai. under 15k you can get into any major brand except patek really.

dddrees · 4 August 2018, 10:22 PM

What's hot, whats not?

Does it really matter? No

What do you like and what appeals to you most?

I'd suggest getting out and having a look. Take sometime and buy whatever appeals most to you. Do you live in an area or can you get to a location which has a good selection of things to look at and start there.

brandrea · 4 August 2018, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Etschell

panerai. under 15k you can get into any major brand except patek really.

Agreed but I was more focused on the 6 k comment.

Star Ferry · 4 August 2018, 10:44 PM

I'm trying to wrap my head around how a "novice in the watch realm" already owns $60K worth of watches

Etschell · 4 August 2018, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Star Ferry

I'm trying to wrap my head around how a "novice in the watch realm" already owns $60K worth of watches

bought them all the same day a few days ago maybe

Keadog · 4 August 2018, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Star Ferry

I'm trying to wrap my head around how a "novice in the watch realm" already owns $60K worth of watches

"Relative novice"? My accountant told me to quit wasting money on cars and buy some nice watches instead. Figured Patek and Rolex were safe brands.

Keadog · 4 August 2018, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Etschell

bought them all the same day a few days ago maybe

No. Since 2014, one at a time.

Keadog · 4 August 2018, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Agreed but I was more focused on the 6 k comment.

Hard floor. Ceiling flexible.

Dr. Robert · 4 August 2018, 11:37 PM

Perhaps the cool, one watch, stranded on a desert watch......a Rolex Explorer, TRF sellers have them around 6K!

SMD · 4 August 2018, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Keadog

"Relative novice"? My accountant told me to quit wasting money on cars and buy some nice watches instead. Figured Patek and Rolex were safe brands.

I think you need a new accountant

Keadog · 4 August 2018, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

You may also wish to consider other brands such as Tudor, or Grand Seiko

Looking at Grand Seiko. Nothing form Tudor seems that interesting to me since I have the two Rolexes.

When I first started, I almost bought a JLC but read horror stories about their service delays.

Thanks!

Keadog · 4 August 2018, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

Perhaps the cool, one watch, stranded on a desert watch......a Rolex Explorer, TRF sellers have them around 6K!

Have an EII. Love it. Wear it working in yard and hunting. Great watch.

Keadog · 4 August 2018, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SMD

I think you need a new accountant

He's a good guy and knows I can't be reasoned with.

Dr. Robert · 4 August 2018, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Keadog

Have an EII. Love it. Wear it working in yard and hunting. Great watch.

This one is different, quiet, understated 214270

Keadog · 4 August 2018, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

This one is different, quiet, understated 214270

This is what I mean by novice; don't know any of the numbers - had to google it.
Yes, very nice. Thank you!

GB-man · 5 August 2018, 12:01 AM

Lange and Vacheron but I would not aim to buy what’s not hot as a principle. Buy what’s awesome.

BigBlue1 · 5 August 2018, 12:02 AM

Exactly.
Get what you like, forget about whats hot.
It is irrelevant.
I remember I asked between a Day Date and a GMT and was told the Day Date. My final choice was the GMT and man am I happy I went with my gut and my true feelings, and not based on someone else liking.
Now if your in it to make money off the watch in the future thats another avenue.

AK797 · 5 August 2018, 12:51 AM

You could get a Lange Saxonia for that money, or a VC Overseas or Breguet Marine for something more sporty, all very Haute brands.

swils8610 · 5 August 2018, 01:24 AM

Preowned Dj or Milgauss. A couple of dollars more an Explorer II. JLC Reverso is also iconic.

“I think a man and his watch have a special bond”~Ralph Lauren

AzPaul · 5 August 2018, 03:40 AM

Perhaps a Speedy?

Keadog · 5 August 2018, 10:17 PM

Thanks for all of the thoughtful replies.
Considering all options.

tyler1980 · 5 August 2018, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

You may also wish to consider other brands such as Tudor, or Grand Seiko

Grand Seiko spring drive diver would be my pick....or a Tudor Black Bay.

Wahlberg · 5 August 2018, 10:24 PM

Why buy anything else if you enjoy wearing your Patek? You've got all bases covered.

Do you want something colourful or flashy? Small size at 34-36mm? A big chunky diver?

ttomczak · 6 August 2018, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Etschell

id say for 6k id get an air king.

under 15k id get either a sd43, ap diver black, sky dweller or 18238 day date,or dj 41.

you can go on watchrecon and put a limit of 15k to see what comes up.

Or the AP white diver

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Gharddog03 · 6 August 2018, 01:04 PM

Grand Seiko

Keadog · 10 August 2018, 03:25 AM

To finish the story, my dealer was able to get me a pre owned "Batman" LNIB full set. I paid market price, which is a little painful since I passed on a new one at retail before the SS sport watches blew up. And yes, I haven't set the 24 hour hand in the pic. Came in yesterday and I've been busy at work.

The watch looks unworn; the warranty card is from 06/18.

Thanks for all the suggestions. Taking a break from adding any more, but would now consider a GS spring drive as well as a Speedmaster. Would like a SS Daytona, but not at today's market pricing. I was going to get a Speedmaster moon phase chronograph until I saw it's 16 mm tall. Wow.

The Libertine · 10 August 2018, 05:18 AM

I gave up trying to figure out what is “hot or not” long ago.

Eventually, what was once old will be new and desireable again, so buy what you like and think twice before discarding.

4 August 2018, 10:00 PM	#1
Keadog "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: USA Posts: 358	What's NOT Hot? Long story but I have around $6K USD to spend on a watch. Prefer new. I know most Pateks and Rolexes (and AP) I would be interested in are all going for over MSRP pre-owned and hard/unable to get new (not that $6K would buy anything from those makers of course; $6K is my floor. Would like to keep total under $15K if possible). Being a novice in the watch realm, what's out there that would be worth looking at? JLC? Omega? VC? What brands (if any) are "out of style" now? I've never been "in style" anyhow and don't mind that at all. Have a PP 5146, Polar EII and Hulk. Open to either dress or sport. I wear the PP almost all the time unless I think it may get wet or dirty. That's what the EII is for. Thanks for any suggestions!

4 August 2018, 10:15 PM	#2
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	id say for 6k id get an air king. under 15k id get either a sd43, ap diver black, sky dweller or 18238 day date,or dj 41. you can go on watchrecon and put a limit of 15k to see what comes up. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

4 August 2018, 10:22 PM	#5
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	What's hot, whats not? Does it really matter? No What do you like and what appeals to you most? I'd suggest getting out and having a look. Take sometime and buy whatever appeals most to you. Do you live in an area or can you get to a location which has a good selection of things to look at and start there. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

4 August 2018, 11:37 PM	#12
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,297	Perhaps the cool, one watch, stranded on a desert watch......a Rolex Explorer, TRF sellers have them around 6K! __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

5 August 2018, 12:01 AM	#19
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	Lange and Vacheron but I would not aim to buy what’s not hot as a principle. Buy what’s awesome. __________________

4 August 2018, 10:18 PM	#3
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,135	You may also wish to consider other brands such as Tudor, or Grand Seiko

4 August 2018, 10:44 PM	#7
Star Ferry Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: down by the river Posts: 4,926	I'm trying to wrap my head around how a "novice in the watch realm" already owns $60K worth of watches

5 August 2018, 12:02 AM	#20
BigBlue1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Webmaster Location: Space Watch: it pal ! Posts: 2,956	Exactly. Get what you like, forget about whats hot. It is irrelevant. I remember I asked between a Day Date and a GMT and was told the Day Date. My final choice was the GMT and man am I happy I went with my gut and my true feelings, and not based on someone else liking. Now if your in it to make money off the watch in the future thats another avenue. __________________ " Even I don't wake up looking like Cindy Crawford". Cindy Crawford Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got RIP Mikey

5 August 2018, 12:51 AM	#21
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	You could get a Lange Saxonia for that money, or a VC Overseas or Breguet Marine for something more sporty, all very Haute brands.

5 August 2018, 01:24 AM	#22
swils8610 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: shannon Location: usa Posts: 9,211	Preowned Dj or Milgauss. A couple of dollars more an Explorer II. JLC Reverso is also iconic. “I think a man and his watch have a special bond”~Ralph Lauren

5 August 2018, 03:40 AM	#23
AzPaul 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Paul Location: Tucson, Az Watch: Rolex 1501 Posts: 13,903	Perhaps a Speedy? __________________ Ain't much of a crime, whacking a surly bartender

5 August 2018, 10:17 PM	#24
Keadog "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: USA Posts: 358	Thanks for all of the thoughtful replies. Considering all options.

5 August 2018, 10:24 PM	#26
Wahlberg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 3,590	Why buy anything else if you enjoy wearing your Patek? You've got all bases covered. Do you want something colourful or flashy? Small size at 34-36mm? A big chunky diver?

6 August 2018, 01:04 PM	#28
Gharddog03 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Genaro Location: Fresno Ca. Watch: R O L E X Posts: 4,466	Grand Seiko

10 August 2018, 05:18 AM	#30
The Libertine Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Mike Location: BOS Watch: 16710;14060;214270 Posts: 6,375	I gave up trying to figure out what is “hot or not” long ago. Eventually, what was once old will be new and desireable again, so buy what you like and think twice before discarding.

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