Go for a 14060? Save up for a 5513?

[llvhhui]

Getting ready to get my first Rolex. What’s more iconic than a sub. Now the question is should I get an unpolished 14060 before it becomes hard to find? Or should I save up for a 5513?

[jrs146]

Always wait and get exactly what you want. Never settle. It only brings regret.


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[stmoore]

Pleasure is in the pursuit not the attainment of a goal. Save for the 5513.

What type do you want? As you know there's a vast window of price / rarity.

[Mik8yu]

14060 if you are getting the ones post 1998 the parts should be readily available from RSC for a while. 5513 you need to take service cost and hassle into consideration. That’s what is on my mind whenever I see nice 5513 example.


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[stmoore]

This wouldn't be a factor if I wanted a 5513.

Service cost is the same and parts haven't been an issue. The 5513 is very durable and generally trouble free. The only sub I own that I don't wear often is my 5508.

Originally Posted by Mik8yu

14060 if you are getting the ones post 1998 the parts should be readily available from RSC for a while. 5513 you need to take service cost and hassle into consideration. That’s what is on my mind whenever I see nice 5513 example.

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[llvhhui]

I feel if I had a 5513 I’d be scared to wear it. Do RSC service vintage watches?

[Mik8yu]

Originally Posted by stmoore

This wouldn't be a factor if I wanted a 5513.



Service cost is the same and parts haven't been an issue. The 5513 is very durable and generally trouble free. The only sub I own that I don't wear often is my 5508.

Sadly Where I am at 5513 matching tritium hands and bezel insert and pearls don’t come cheap.


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[stmoore]

Life is too short to be afraid of hurting a watch. These are tough.
Don't buy something you won't wear - but if the 5513 makes you happy then get that.

The big issue is price - huge delta.

I don't dive in my 5513s but I wear them all the time.

Check out this site to learn more about the 5513 - not all are equal: http://5513mattedial.com

Originally Posted by llvhhui

I feel if I had a 5513 I’d be scared to wear it. Do RSC service vintage watches?

[retrojay2345]

awesome

[Mik8yu]

Originally Posted by stmoore

Life is too short to be afraid of hurting a watch. These are tough.

Don't buy something you won't wear - but if the 5513 makes you happy then get that.



The big issue is price - huge delta.



I don't dive in my 5513s but I wear them all the time.



Check out this site to learn more about the 5513 - not all are equal: http://5513mattedial.com

Agreed on all counts


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[stmoore]

Correct. A nice insert is expensive everywhere. I am assuming you will buy a correct one and not have to "build one" ...

But maybe you find a nice MK4/5 Maxi or one of the last 5513 gloss dials (after the maxi) - it should be correct and stable to wear for years.

Originally Posted by Mik8yu

Sadly Where I am at 5513 matching tritium hands and bezel insert and pearls don’t come cheap.


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[llvhhui]

Originally Posted by stmoore

Life is too short to be afraid of hurting a watch. These are tough.
Don't buy something you won't wear - but if the 5513 makes you happy then get that.

The big issue is price - huge delta.

I don't dive in my 5513s but I wear them all the time.

Check out this site to learn more about the 5513 - not all are equal: http://5513mattedial.com

Thanks! Will check it out!

[llvhhui]

Originally Posted by stmoore

Pleasure is in the pursuit not the attainment of a goal. Save for the 5513.

What type do you want? As you know there's a vast window of price / rarity.

Seems like I need to research and educate myself first. Just wanted a basic 5513, nothing fancy and rare.

[blacke90]

Originally Posted by jrs146

Always wait and get exactly what you want. Never settle. It only brings regret.

Agree with the above 100%
Never settle.

[Mik8yu]

That is part of the fun!


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[stmoore]

People who want a 5513 generally want it because it has things like a domed plexiglass crystal, generally a matte dial, thicker font on the inserts, etc. It's "vintage" ...

The 14060 is (roughly) what's next in line newer. It's newer but lacking the above.

Originally Posted by llvhhui

Seems like I need to research and educate myself first. Just wanted a basic 5513, nothing fancy and rare.

[llvhhui]

Originally Posted by stmoore

People who want a 5513 generally want it because it has things like a domed plexiglass crystal, generally a matte dial, thicker font on the inserts, etc. It's "vintage" ...

The 14060 is (roughly) what's next in line newer. It's newer but lacking the above.

What got me the most is probably the vintage design and classic James Bond factor.

[beshannon]

For me it would be all about the condition of the individual watch

[BlackBay1]

Originally Posted by jrs146

Always wait and get exactly what you want. Never settle. It only brings regret.


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Probably cost a lot more money in the long run as well.

[Finslayer83]

Decided a late model 14060M has some improvements while the same heritage.

how I spent my money

[doramas]

I would choose the 14060 for being more practical in everyday use.

[llvhhui]

Originally Posted by doramas

I would choose the 14060 for being more practical in everyday use.

5513 does feel more like a collectible piece rather than a daily beater.

[stmoore]

Originally Posted by llvhhui

5513 does feel more like a collectible piece rather than a daily beater.

Depends on your budget and personality. You could honestly wear a 5513 everyday, short of diving, etc.

It has more character (to me) than a 14060 but a 14060 is also a great watch.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by stmoore

Depends on your budget and personality. You could honestly wear a 5513 everyday, short of diving, etc.

It has more character (to me) than a 14060 but a 14060 is also a great watch.

This 1989 5513 with service dial and hands works as a daily and a diver.

[omitohud]

Originally Posted by llvhhui

Seems like I need to research and educate myself first. Just wanted a basic 5513, nothing fancy and rare.

All variations of 5513 r never fancy nor rare, but it’s the one watch that represents vintage Rolex sports model more than others. It’s so iconic, pretty much most of today’s divers is another variation of it. It will never go out of fashion n always in demand, hence the collectibility. Regardless of vintage, a really nice one with all original age appropriate parts is approaching $20k.

Personally I would get a 14060 to wear and save up for a 5513. In today’s market, it’s tough to catch up to the keep increasing price.


I blame it on autoconnect.

[llvhhui]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

This 1989 5513 with service dial and hands works as a daily and a diver.

So you just took a 5513 in for a service and have them replace dial and hands?

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by beshannon

for me it would be all about the condition of the individual watch

+1

[stmoore]

Originally Posted by llvhhui

So you just took a 5513 in for a service and have them replace dial and hands?

Pretty sure he bought it that way. No one would intentionally do this .... but at the point it occurs you have a “new” vintage watch.

[Finslayer83]

pic time

[Nikrnic]

I'd say go for a 2 liner 14060m it's the most modern and tough of the 5 digits while still appearing vintage but maybe go for a 14060 with tritium T>25 so it will patina and both are still much less than a 5513

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