I'm seeing lot of 'Its on display but dealer won't sell unless...' threads

[jkim1027]

What if you just drop them and pay MSRP

[MonBK]

Please explain?

[Burlington]

Just having the cash in hand for something doesn’t oblige them to sell it. It’s a two way exchange.

[Largoshark]

I think OP means: you break it, you buy it.

Don't think it would work like that. They would probably ship it off to RSC for repairs, and have you foot the bill...Then put it back on display. Or if you're lucky they will just ask you to leave the store. That's my guess anyway.

You're welcome to give it a try, OP. Let us know how that works out

[jkim1027]

Originally Posted by Largoshark

I think OP means: you break it, you buy it.

Don't think it would work like that. They would probably ship it off to RSC for repairs, and have you foot the bill...Then put it back on display. Or if you're lucky they will just ask you to leave the store. That's my guess anyway.

You're welcome to give it a try, OP. Let us know how that works out

And for what exact reason they are not gonna sell it? They can't just charge for repair bill and not sell the watch even if customer was willing to pay and purchase for the whole watch.

[Largoshark]

Originally Posted by jkim1027

And for what exact reason they are not gonna sell it? They can't just charge for repair bill and not sell the watch even if customer was willing to pay and purchase for the whole watch.

I can think of a plethora of reasons, but please prove me wrong.

Like I said, you're free to give it a try and report back...

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[Jocke]

Why buy a broken watch, it make no sense.

[BT1985]

Originally Posted by Jocke

Why buy a broken watch, it make no sense.

I agree no one would/should do this but I will play devils advocate. He is (I believe tongue in cheek) saying that if you can’t source a watch it’s cheaper to drop a display only one and buy it at MSRP and pay for the repairs out of pocket. The cost of watch and repairs would be less than paying grey.


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[jkim1027]

Originally Posted by Jocke

Why buy a broken watch, it make no sense.

Drop it on the carpet...

[Burlington]

Originally Posted by jkim1027

And for what exact reason they are not gonna sell it? They can't just charge for repair bill and not sell the watch even if customer was willing to pay and purchase for the whole watch.

Why can’t they do just that ?

If you dinged a car on a test drive you wouldn’t want to be forced to buy it - you’d just pay for the dent or scratch to be fixed and that’s that ?! (Assuming though of course the dealer would have insurance for this exact thing, which jewellery stores may well have too)

[Flstfirider]

A local Tudor dealer had the whole 2018 line in non working samples shortly after the new models were announced. There were also several threads several months ago re. Rolex launch events that had non working samples.

With regard to dealers not selling their display watches, are you sure they are functions models?

[Bxtek]

Originally Posted by Flstfirider

A local Tudor dealer had the whole 2018 line in non working samples shortly after the new models were announced. There were also several threads several months ago re. Rolex launch events that had non working samples.

With regard to dealers not selling their display watches, are you sure they are functions models?

This is kind of off the main topic, but what happens to these non-working display units? Do they eventually get sold? Do they get sent back to Rolex, have movements installed and then sold? From what I understand, these displays are a real watches minus the movements. I think it would be cool to collect these!

[jkim1027]

I've seen multiple threads talking about dealers having SS sports rolex models available that are hard to get, but will only sell to customers who purchases prestigious gold models. You can just tell them you're gonna try them on and drop them. You break you buy.

[Burlington]

Originally Posted by jkim1027

I've seen multiple threads saying that they do have SS sports rolex models available that are hard to get, but will only sell to customers who purchases prestigious gold models. You can just tell them you're gonna try them on and drop them. You break you buy.

Pretty sure this wouldn’t work. Break it and you pay for damages best case. Worst case they suspect intentional damage and they take action for destruction of property.

Or if you insist upon buying they then charge the going rate for preowned now the watch is no longer BNIB, which is 200% of MSRP. Can’t see any scenario working out as you may hope for in the real world.

[jkim1027]

Originally Posted by Burlington

Pretty sure this wouldn’t work. Break it and you pay for damages best case. Worst case they suspect intentional damage and they take action for destruction of property.

Or if you insist upon buying they then charge the going rate for preowned now the watch is no longer BNIB, which is 200% of MSRP. Can’t see any scenario working out as you may hope for in the real world.

I believe Rolex AD's aren't supposed to do such thing in first place? I'm not sure about the entire stores, but Japan/Korean stores do get penalized for not selling their watches on first come/first serve basis.

[1665fan]

They want u to buy garbage datejust/yachtmasters to get the daytonas.... not rocket science

[jkim1027]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

They want u to buy garbage datejust/yachtmasters to get the daytonas.... not rocket science

Yeah, and most people don't want buy an extra watch they are not going wear to get a daytona. So just drop the daytona/gmt if they let you try it on

[Skwisgaar]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

They want u to buy garbage datejust/yachtmasters to get the daytonas.... not rocket science

I just left an AD in Greensboro that was perfectly happy to sell me a black dial SkyDweller, a ceramic Daytona, or any of their two Subs and I had never even been there before. I have a Pepsi coming this week but I said I would tell some friends. Call Schiffman's and ask for Brian.

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[BT1985]

Originally Posted by Skwisgaar

I just left an AD in Greensboro that was perfectly happy to sell me a black dial SkyDweller, a ceramic Daytona, or any of their two Subs and I had never even been there before. I have a Pepsi coming this week but I said I would tell some friends. Call Schiffman's and ask for Brian.

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I think everyone is calling Brian in Greensboro now....


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[BT1985]

I’m sure “display only” changes once they find someone willing to package a deal with jewelry or a PM watch. You have an interesting theory because of you did drop it they couldn’t sell it as new since repairs would become part of the service history.


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[stash21]

Why not just buy both and then later return the PM model unworn for a refund. Sure consumer law in most countries allows this.

[edd26]

[QUOTE=stash21;8900304]Why not just buy both and then later return the PM model unworn for a refund. Sure consumer law in most countries allows this.[/QUOT.


agree

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by jkim1027

What if you just drop them and pay MSRP

Or you get arrested for destroying their property

[jkim1027]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Or you get arrested for destroying their property

I think I would have more chance of winning if I bring it to court...I tried to pay for the watch that was for sale but they declined to sell and asked for more than MSRP or only charged for repair?

[Largoshark]

Originally Posted by jkim1027

I think I would have more chance of winning if I bring it to court...I tried to pay for the watch that was for sale but they declined to sell and asked for more than MSRP or only charged for repair?

Until, after a thorough investigation, they find your TRF profile, look at your post history, and find this thread

[jkim1027]

Originally Posted by Largoshark

Until, after a thorough investigation, they find your TRF profile, look at your post history, and find this thread

Well, if someone else did it, wouldn't it work?

[Largoshark]

Originally Posted by jkim1027

Well, if someone else did it, wouldn't it work?

[Burlington]

Originally Posted by jkim1027

I think I would have more chance of winning if I bring it to court...I tried to pay for the watch that was for sale but they declined to sell and asked for more than MSRP or only charged for repair?

MSRP - is just that, manufacturers suggested retail price.

The AD is totally free to set the price they want. Otherwise it’s called price fixing.

They have zero legal obligation to sell anyone that watch. The only reason they could be in trouble legally is if they refused to serve a particular customer on the basis of discrimination.

[BT1985]

Originally Posted by Burlington

MSRP - is just that, manufacturers suggested retail price.

The AD is totally free to set the price they want. Otherwise it’s called price fixing.

They have zero legal obligation to sell anyone that watch. The only reason they could be in trouble legally is if they refused to serve a particular customer on the basis of discrimination.

Rolex will pull their inventory if they sell over MSRP. If they could sell for over list then they would and there would be no grey market. You are right about that they do not have to sell it, but they can’t go over list. That’s why it would be problematic for them to maintain possession of a dropped watch.


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[Burlington]

Originally Posted by BT1985

Rolex will pull their inventory if they sell over MSRP. If they could sell for over list then they would and there would be no grey market. You are right about that they do not have to sell it, but they can’t go over list. That’s why it would be problematic for them to maintain possession of a dropped watch.


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Yes I'm sure that would be the case, but legally they could sell at over, or under if they chose to.

Bundling hot pieces with a PM model is their way of effectively doing the same thing whilst maintaining Rolex's expectations at the point of sale.

If a watch was maliciously dropped, I'm sure they would press charges and seek damages to cover the repair bill, then sell it pre owned via a grey dealer.

If it was accidentally dropped and sufficiently damaged then I expect they would have insurance to cover this, and/ or back to Rolex to be repaired. I would expect in this case then to be re-sold as BNIB. As Rolex dictates the watches history and as it hadn't yet sold, they could repair/ mend as needed. It would presumably be the same as if one was dropped inside the factory during the final QC checks.