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Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 04:19 AM

Looking to purchase an AP and this I came across online . Looks legit ? This would be my first AP

Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Matman167

Looking to purchase an AP and this I came across online . Looks legit ? This would be my first AP

https://www.ebay.com/itm/audemars-pi...-/123390749294

R!$ · 27 September 2018, 04:47 AM

Good luck
Watch looks ok

SMD · 27 September 2018, 04:54 AM

$2,000 for a watch that listed over 30K? Makes sense.

Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 05:43 AM

The gentleman messaged me privately and offered 10 K through PayPal if I was interested. He also sent me additional pictures of the box and papers. I know that doesn’t mean much in today’s world with all the counterfeits that are out there. That’s why I wanted to ask you all here

Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 06:00 AM

https://mesg.ebay.com/mesgweb/ViewMe...l/102556692877

Here is the pic of the box and papers he sent.. dont want to pass up a good deal just skeptic of the low price

avilhena · 27 September 2018, 06:06 AM

The cheapest ROO 44mm listed in Chrono24 is 20k, and it is from an unknown seller from Russia.

Do you really think anyone would sell this for 10k???

Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 06:28 AM

I hear you ! That’s why I wanted to ask if it’s a fake or not. I mean I am protected by PayPal if it ends up being fake , I can file a claim to get my money back but it’s a pain in the you know what !

AK797 · 27 September 2018, 06:30 AM

Has the old bezel which I've seen mostly on fakes and no mvmnt pics, so hard pass. 10K is a fake price too.

Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 06:32 AM

He said it was dated 2012 . Not sure if that helps

AK797 · 27 September 2018, 06:33 AM

He can show you a movement pic, but then he could still bait and switch you, the price is all wrong.

Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 06:38 AM

I just asked him so show you when I get it

SMD · 27 September 2018, 06:39 AM

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He said it was dated 2012 . Not sure if that helps

Sub dials are wrong for the 2012 model.

Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 06:43 AM

https://mesg.ebay.com/mesgweb/ViewMe...d950c91f94fd31

HERE IS THE MOVEMENT HE SENT ME . Thoughts ?

GB-man · 27 September 2018, 06:54 AM

Thoughts are it's a fake or a scam. That is a 20k watch all day. It is not an obscure watch where the seller won't know the value.

AK797 · 27 September 2018, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Matman167

https://mesg.ebay.com/mesgweb/ViewMe...d950c91f94fd31

HERE IS THE MOVEMENT HE SENT ME . Thoughts ?

I can't see any of your pics, can you post them here? Also compare it to a genuine pic from Google. You will need these to check later if the watch sent to you is the same one.

Also at 10K could be stolen.

SMD · 27 September 2018, 06:58 AM

You clearly want to buy it so go for it and report back. As I already stated, for a 2012 watch the sub dials (and the dial itself) are wrong.

GB-man · 27 September 2018, 07:04 AM

While we are at it what is a 116613lv?

Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 07:08 AM

Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 07:10 AM

I am trying to figure out how to post the pictures. i thought you all were able to see them. let me figure it out

GB-man · 27 September 2018, 07:11 AM

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I am trying to figure out how to post the pictures. i thought you all were able to see them. let me figure it out

if you have an iphone there is an app called tapatalk that works well. honestly pics do not mean much he could still send you a box of rocks.

Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 07:17 AM

Thank you! Ill have to download it. i know im protected under paypal but i just dont want to get burned. i guess if its to good to be true, it usually is. i just wanted to expand further from my rolex collection

SMD · 27 September 2018, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

While we are at it what is a 116613lv?

This.

Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 07:30 AM

My TT sub . Never realized I put it in my bio :)

Andy0331 · 27 September 2018, 08:11 AM

The whole ebay sellers account is shaky... he just sold an RO for $8.75k that is now deleted from the server. Walk away.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/ucantucan/m...p2046732.m1684

tyler1980 · 27 September 2018, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Matman167

Thank you! Ill have to download it. i know im protected under paypal but i just dont want to get burned. i guess if its to good to be true, it usually is. i just wanted to expand further from my rolex collection

This is a great case study in PayPal buyer protections. You are being told by a lot of people who know what they are talking about not to do it. If you do it anyway and they see this thread, they might just think twice on giving you your money back

you have been warned multiple times its not a good idea

If you buy it anyway it also explains why PayPal fees are so high for the rest of us, they aren't covering it, fees cover it.

Matman167 · 27 September 2018, 08:26 AM

Correct I have been that’s why I wanted to ask everyone who has more knowledge about AP’s then myself . I really do appreciate it and def am passing. Just unreal today’s day in age of counterfeits .

Chary · 27 September 2018, 08:44 AM

$10K for a $30K watch??? that seems pretty legit to me.. lol

GB-man · 27 September 2018, 09:53 AM

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$10K for a $30K watch??? that seems pretty legit to me.. lol

Adrian I have an idea on how we can get some YouTube hits. Let’s use your huracan as a ramp to jump your raptor.

Sorry the avatar presents an opportunity for a tempting stunt

2nastie · 27 September 2018, 10:05 AM

Pics can always be faked. It's what arrives in the mail. Hard pass.

27 September 2018, 04:19 AM	#1
Matman167 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: PHIL Location: New York Watch: Rolex 116613lv Posts: 54	Need help on this AP Looking to purchase an AP and this I came across online . Looks legit ? This would be my first AP

27 September 2018, 06:06 AM	#7
avilhena "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,139	The cheapest ROO 44mm listed in Chrono24 is 20k, and it is from an unknown seller from Russia. Do you really think anyone would sell this for 10k??? __________________ Once you wear the crown, you can never go down.

27 September 2018, 06:54 AM	#15
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	Thoughts are it's a fake or a scam. That is a 20k watch all day. It is not an obscure watch where the seller won't know the value. __________________

27 September 2018, 07:04 AM	#18
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	While we are at it what is a 116613lv? __________________

27 September 2018, 07:10 AM	#20
Matman167 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: PHIL Location: New York Watch: Rolex 116613lv Posts: 54	I am trying to figure out how to post the pictures. i thought you all were able to see them. let me figure it out Attached Images

27 September 2018, 04:47 AM	#3
R!$ Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,405	Good luck Watch looks ok

27 September 2018, 04:54 AM	#4
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,701	$2,000 for a watch that listed over 30K? Makes sense.

27 September 2018, 05:43 AM	#5
Matman167 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: PHIL Location: New York Watch: Rolex 116613lv Posts: 54	The gentleman messaged me privately and offered 10 K through PayPal if I was interested. He also sent me additional pictures of the box and papers. I know that doesn’t mean much in today’s world with all the counterfeits that are out there. That’s why I wanted to ask you all here

27 September 2018, 06:00 AM	#6
Matman167 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: PHIL Location: New York Watch: Rolex 116613lv Posts: 54	https://mesg.ebay.com/mesgweb/ViewMe...l/102556692877 Here is the pic of the box and papers he sent.. dont want to pass up a good deal just skeptic of the low price

27 September 2018, 06:28 AM	#8
Matman167 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: PHIL Location: New York Watch: Rolex 116613lv Posts: 54	I hear you ! That’s why I wanted to ask if it’s a fake or not. I mean I am protected by PayPal if it ends up being fake , I can file a claim to get my money back but it’s a pain in the you know what !

27 September 2018, 06:30 AM	#9
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Has the old bezel which I've seen mostly on fakes and no mvmnt pics, so hard pass. 10K is a fake price too.

27 September 2018, 06:32 AM	#10
Matman167 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: PHIL Location: New York Watch: Rolex 116613lv Posts: 54	He said it was dated 2012 . Not sure if that helps

27 September 2018, 06:33 AM	#11
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	He can show you a movement pic, but then he could still bait and switch you, the price is all wrong.

27 September 2018, 06:38 AM	#12
Matman167 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: PHIL Location: New York Watch: Rolex 116613lv Posts: 54	I just asked him so show you when I get it

27 September 2018, 06:43 AM	#14
Matman167 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: PHIL Location: New York Watch: Rolex 116613lv Posts: 54	https://mesg.ebay.com/mesgweb/ViewMe...d950c91f94fd31 HERE IS THE MOVEMENT HE SENT ME . Thoughts ?

27 September 2018, 06:58 AM	#17
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,701	You clearly want to buy it so go for it and report back. As I already stated, for a 2012 watch the sub dials (and the dial itself) are wrong.

27 September 2018, 07:08 AM	#19
Matman167 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: PHIL Location: New York Watch: Rolex 116613lv Posts: 54

27 September 2018, 07:17 AM	#22
Matman167 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: PHIL Location: New York Watch: Rolex 116613lv Posts: 54	Thank you! Ill have to download it. i know im protected under paypal but i just dont want to get burned. i guess if its to good to be true, it usually is. i just wanted to expand further from my rolex collection

27 September 2018, 07:30 AM	#24
Matman167 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: PHIL Location: New York Watch: Rolex 116613lv Posts: 54	My TT sub . Never realized I put it in my bio :)

27 September 2018, 08:11 AM	#25
Andy0331 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: FL Posts: 438	The whole ebay sellers account is shaky... he just sold an RO for $8.75k that is now deleted from the server. Walk away. https://www.ebay.com/sch/ucantucan/m...p2046732.m1684

27 September 2018, 08:26 AM	#27
Matman167 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: PHIL Location: New York Watch: Rolex 116613lv Posts: 54	Correct I have been that’s why I wanted to ask everyone who has more knowledge about AP’s then myself . I really do appreciate it and def am passing. Just unreal today’s day in age of counterfeits .

27 September 2018, 08:44 AM	#28
Chary Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Watch: 15407ST Posts: 963	$10K for a $30K watch??? that seems pretty legit to me.. lol

27 September 2018, 10:05 AM	#30
2nastie "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: YVR Watch: Time Only Posts: 2,332	Pics can always be faked. It's what arrives in the mail. Hard pass.

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