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Old 18 November 2018, 05:13 AM   #1
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Another Question on Polished v Not Polished (live watch with pictures)

I know there are a lot of posts on this topic, with pictures and guidance from others re how to tell if a watch has been polished. I’ve read a lot of them, I’m still not confident in making a call as I’ve not hand enough in my hands in the metal.

Here are some pictures of that 16710 from 1998 that I mentioned in another post.

What are people’s thoughts on the case condition? Do you think it’s had some work done?

Note, I’ve both cropped and brighten the pictures to hopefully make the details more clear.

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Old 18 November 2018, 05:19 AM   #2
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Nice watch, give it a polish and it's ready to wear
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Old 18 November 2018, 09:47 AM   #3
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I say unpolished and never get it polished....I would assume majority of collectors would never polish and unpolished watch.
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Old 18 November 2018, 10:04 AM   #4
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Just some honest wear IMO.
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Old 18 November 2018, 10:05 AM   #5
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Thats perfect as it is right now if you ask me.
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Old 18 November 2018, 10:06 AM   #6
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Pretty decent "unmolested" piece of hardware ya have there sir!

Don't dare take a polish to it!


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Old 18 November 2018, 11:10 AM   #7
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Pretty decent "unmolested" piece of hardware ya have there sir!

Don't dare take a polish to it!


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Thanks, not mine rather a non watch enthusiast buddy's watch. But 100% agree, no polishing to be done.

What I was trying to establish was whether or not this watch had seen some previous work. I had an opinion but it is based on very limited exposure to older watches like this and so I needed some expert advice.

It seems the overwhelming opinion is this one has never seen any work on the case.
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Old 18 November 2018, 10:27 AM   #8
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Looks unpolished to me. I can still see the chamfer on the lugs!
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Old 18 November 2018, 11:05 AM   #9
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Looks unpolished to me. I can still see the chamfer on the lugs!
Yes, even though I could see them I wasn't 100%.

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Old 18 November 2018, 11:15 AM   #10
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Lug holes look crisp, chamfers are still there. Likely unpolished.

Folded endlinks are a beautiful thing.
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Old 18 November 2018, 02:21 PM   #11
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Let it be.

Polish peace.
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Old 19 November 2018, 03:34 AM   #12
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As some have mentioned, one of the easiest ways to tell is the lugholes. Should be sharp and perfectly circular. When they're polished they start to smooth out and take on an ovular shape.
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Old 19 November 2018, 04:41 AM   #13
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As some have mentioned, one of the easiest ways to tell is the lugholes. Should be sharp and perfectly circular. When they're polished they start to smooth out and take on an ovular shape.
Thanks Sean. I'd read other comments suggesting the lug holes should be slightly raised at the edge, this is not something I could easily ascertain on this watch. Perhaps with a loupe.

The shape and sharpness however, per your comment, I think is easier to determine with the naked eye. Thanks!
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Old 19 November 2018, 12:02 PM   #14
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As some have mentioned, one of the easiest ways to tell is the lugholes. Should be sharp and perfectly circular. When they're polished they start to smooth out and take on an ovular shape.
I use the term, "bowling" as in literally - a removal of material resulting from polishing [usually by hand] that causes this bowl shaped lug hole opening...

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Old 19 November 2018, 10:14 PM   #15
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I use the term, "bowling" as in literally - a removal of material resulting from polishing [usually by hand] that causes this bowl shaped lug hole opening...

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Randy, thanks.
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Old 19 November 2018, 05:07 AM   #16
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Unmolested beauty! Sharp lugs and sharp bezel teeth. Don't dare polish it!
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Old 19 November 2018, 10:40 AM   #17
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Please leave it like it is !!! Beauty !!
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Old 19 November 2018, 12:23 PM   #18
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Nice watch, give it a polish and it's ready to wear
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Thats perfect as it is right now if you ask me.
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Please leave it like it is !!! Beauty !!
Guys, he was just asking for opinions if it HAD been polished or not, not whether he should polish it.
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Old 19 November 2018, 10:16 PM   #19
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Guys, he was just asking for opinions if it HAD been polished or not, not whether he should polish it.
Indeed Andy. Just be clear, if it was (or if it becomes) my watch there will be NO POLISHING.

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Old 19 November 2018, 01:46 PM   #20
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I've heard from some collectors that an RSC polish is able to retain the same chamfers on the lugs. Not sure how true that is though ?
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Old 19 November 2018, 10:19 PM   #21
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I've heard from some collectors that an RSC polish is able to retain the same chamfers on the lugs. Not sure how true that is though ?
Yes, I've read similar. I would add that I also read numerous posts here suggesting that LAWW can do as good if not a better job with the probability of the desired outcome being higher as with LAWW you know who is doing your work (you can see past examples from the same hand) versus RSC where it's not clear that your watch will be worked on by the same person that did that great job on your buddy's watch.
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