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Old 25 November 2018, 04:33 AM   #1
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New incoming (it’s here) & a question guys?.

I’ve wanted this one for a while & finally saw one in a as new condition that I’m happy with. So the trigger got pulled and this beauty below is now mine.

Question before pics though...

I was told this is a 2007/2008 model serial (M) which was kept in a safe by a dealer until being sold in 2015 (warranty card has 2015 on it). Fair enough, that happens.

It has had a recent service and I have full paperwork for that. So I’m happy it’s genuine but for my own piece of mind, I’d like to know what actual year it is.

Another thing to confuse me. It has a blue lume...

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Old 25 November 2018, 04:48 AM   #2
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Whatever year it is, it sure is pretty. Congrats!
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Old 25 November 2018, 04:51 AM   #3
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At 2015 Rolex use random serial numbers so the first letter says nothing and it looks fine to me.

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Old 25 November 2018, 04:55 AM   #4
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Lovely reference!

As for the actual year there is no definitive answer. All depends when the case was stamped...a serial number could be made one year and sold years later depending on how popular it is.
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Old 25 November 2018, 05:08 AM   #5
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Thanks guys. I absolutely love it.

I just want to know for piece of mind, what year it is. Other than Rolex, who would know or could tell me based off my pics or if I took it in somewhere?.

2007/8 or 2015 I love it. It’s a classic beauty in my eyes and am happy either way.

Just for curious as to the year, also for insurance purposes too .
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Old 25 November 2018, 05:15 AM   #6
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According to the internet, the M serials are fall of 2007. Here’s the site I used...

https://www.swiss-wrist.com/rolex-serial-numbers
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Old 25 November 2018, 05:17 AM   #7
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Big congrats,,
Gorgeous piece,
Wear in good health,
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Old 25 November 2018, 05:18 AM   #8
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According to the internet, the M serials are fall of 2007. Here’s the site I used...

https://www.swiss-wrist.com/rolex-serial-numbers


Thanks buddy.

I’d be happy with either year, I just need to know which it is for my insurance & my piece of mind.

I don’t think 2007 had a blue lume though.

I’m not sure if it’s had a dial change and a newer dial has been added later. Who knows..
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Old 25 November 2018, 05:18 AM   #9
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Old 25 November 2018, 06:15 AM   #11
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Thanks buddy.

I’d be happy with either year, I just need to know which it is for my insurance & my piece of mind.

I don’t think 2007 had a blue lume though.

I’m not sure if it’s had a dial change and a newer dial has been added later. Who knows..

Just use the date on the card for insurance purposes. My insurance doesn’t request a year, only reference number and serial number.

My 116718 is a z serial sold in 2016. It has blue lume and the bracelet markings indicate a post-2011 manufacture. My understanding is that Rolex assigns the serial number at the time the case is manufactured. Generally cases seem to be aligned to watches on a FIFO basis in Rolex manufacturing, but I’ve found a few examples where the generally accepted year for the serial prefix seems off so it can happen... my advice is just enjoy it!
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Just use the date on the card for insurance purposes. My insurance doesn’t request a year, only reference number and serial number.



My 116718 is a z serial sold in 2016. It has blue lume and the bracelet markings indicate a post-2011 manufacture. My understanding is that Rolex assigns the serial number at the time the case is manufactured. Generally cases seem to be aligned to watches on a FIFO basis in Rolex manufacturing, but I’ve found a few examples where the generally accepted year for the serial prefix seems off so it can happen... my advice is just enjoy it!


Thanks mate. I’ll enjoy it either way. It’s just for me to know.

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Old 25 November 2018, 07:09 AM   #16
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At 2015 Rolex use random serial numbers so the first letter says nothing and it looks fine to me.



Congrats.


Does the length mean anything Jocke?.

Mine is 8 characters long, starting with a M.
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Does the length mean anything Jocke?.

Mine is 8 characters long, starting with a M.
The M serial is made around 2007, the chromalight was released around 2008-2009 in one model at a time.
In 2005 they start put the serial number at the rehaut and in 2010 they start with random numbers and now
with 8 characters. The old serial system start with a letter and 6 numbers.

So your watch is definitive a random serial number watch and produced after 2010 so my guess is it's made in 2015
as the warranty card says. Those watches leave the AD very quick.
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The M serial is made around 2007, the chromalight was released around 2008-2009 in one model at a time.
In 2005 they start put the serial number at the rehaut and in 2010 they start with random numbers and now
with 8 characters. The old serial system start with a letter and 6 numbers.

So your watch is definitive a random serial number watch and produced after 2010 so my guess is it's made in 2015
as the warranty card says. Those watches leave the AD very quick.


Thank you. That has put my mind at ease.
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Thank you. I love it
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Mine is 8 characters long, starting with a M.
Sounds like a random serial that just happens to start with an M. Are there any other letters in the serial or is it an M and seven numbers? The latter would truly be coincidental.
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Old 25 November 2018, 09:18 AM   #22
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New incoming (it’s here) & a question guys?.

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Sounds like a random serial that just happens to start with an M. Are there any other letters in the serial or is it an M and seven numbers? The latter would truly be coincidental.


8 characters starting with M, the rest are numbers.

Who knows ..
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8 characters starting with M, the rest are numbers.

Who knows ..
Wow. Purely coincidental in this case. The length of serial, blue lume and warranty card date would put it well past 2007/2008.

I assume the serial engraved on the rehaut matches the card, just to rule out any typos on the card itself?

On an M serial, the serial characters on the rehaut are aligned between the tick marks. On a random they line up with the tick marks.
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The lugs look rounded, perhaps polished. You might want to take a closer look. And those stickers with red stripes are not Rolex original
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The lugs look rounded, perhaps polished. You might want to take a closer look. And those stickers with red stripes are not Rolex original
Those are service stickers. It's been serviced.
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The lugs look fine compared to the unpolished Daytona I'm staring at right now on my wrist. Congrats and enjoy your watch.
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Very late 2007 very early 2008, my semi educated guess

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Wow. Purely coincidental in this case. The length of serial, blue lume and warranty card date would put it well past 2007/2008.

I assume the serial engraved on the rehaut matches the card, just to rule out any typos on the card itself?

On an M serial, the serial characters on the rehaut are aligned between the tick marks. On a random they line up with the tick marks.


Serial matches on rehaut & card.
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The lugs look rounded, perhaps polished. You might want to take a closer look. And those stickers with red stripes are not Rolex original


Its just back from a service. I have paperwork & receipt of that purchase.
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