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Tony8959 · 25 November 2018, 03:24 PM

As I was looking into alternatives for the Daytona. I ran across the now out of production 39mm panda dial chrono. I love the new models but 41mm will not fit my small wrist. Does anyone have the 39mm panda? I’m torn if the chrono takes away that classic AP royal oak look. But it’s a beautiful watch. I would love to hear some feedback and see some wrist shots !

Stonedcl · 26 November 2018, 01:21 PM

This was my dream watch at one point. Ari Gold wore it in the final season on enterage.
I ended up getting a Patek 5167 instead and from a value perspective I am glad I did..

Tony8959 · 26 November 2018, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Stonedcl

This was my dream watch at one point. Ari Gold wore it in the final season on enterage.
I ended up getting a Patek 5167 instead and from a value perspective I am glad I did..

Both beautiful watches and yes think you made the right choice! The AP is going for close to 20k right now when it was like 13-15k earlier this year.

wisguy · 26 November 2018, 01:42 PM

I've owned 41mm and 39mm Royal Oaks, like the 39mm proportions much better.

The chrono is great, I owned a 26300 blue dial.

A great alternative to a Daytona for roughly the same money depending on model and condition.

Stonedcl · 26 November 2018, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony8959

Both beautiful watches and yes think you made the right choice! The AP is going for close to 20k right now when it was like 13-15k earlier this year.

When I was buying about 5-6 years ago the 5167 was 16k and the 26300 was about 17-18k.. I would defiantly choose the 26300 over a Daytona.

Tony8959 · 26 November 2018, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stonedcl

When I was buying about 5-6 years ago the 5167 was 16k and the 26300 was about 17-18k.. I would defiantly choose the 26300 over a Daytona.

It’s definjtely a hard choice.. how would you say the 39mm AP sits on the wrist compared to Daytona ? 19.8k I was quoted is a little pricey but in new Daytona ballpark , difference being service costs

SC11 · 26 November 2018, 06:15 PM

They didn’t do a 39mm panda in stainless steel

The early 26300ST had a couple of dial options with slightly contrasting sub dials but no true panda dial (from memory)

Tony8959 · 26 November 2018, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SC11

They didn’t do a 39mm panda in stainless steel

The early 26300ST had a couple of dial options with slightly contrasting sub dials but no true panda dial (from memory)

Gotcha.. I think most people just refer to it as panda because sub dials filled in

V25V · 27 November 2018, 01:41 AM

Love the 26300 Panda. You mean this one below? If so, YES! No brainer against the Daytona for me.

Tony8959 · 27 November 2018, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by V25V

Love the 26300 Panda. You mean this one below? If so, YES! No brainer against the Daytona for me.

Yes that’s the one.. I found one locally for around $19,500 in near mint condition with box/papers and a 2 yr store warranty. Just trying to weigh it out as it’s definitely over the budget I wanted to spend for the Daytona (which I could get from a grey BNIB).

Razorsedge1 · 27 November 2018, 01:55 AM

White chrono looks great! Go for it.

V25V · 27 November 2018, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony8959

Yes that’s the one.. I found one locally for around $19,500 in near mint condition with box/papers and a 2 yr store warranty. Just trying to weigh it out as it’s definitely over the budget I wanted to spend for the Daytona (which I could get from a grey BNIB).

You are comparing a secondary market price Daytona (way overpriced) to an AP which has a retail price north of the one you found (and incredibly hard to find). That said, price he is quoting you is high. I would recommend contacting DavidSW or Takuya (where photo is linked from) and see if they can source you one. You should be paying 15-16K for that watch in same condition and full set. That one I grabbed from his old stock was listed at $13,725.

Tony8959 · 27 November 2018, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by V25V

You are comparing a secondary market price Daytona (way overpriced) to an AP which has a retail price north of the one you found (and incredibly hard to find). That said, price he is quoting you is high. I would recommend contacting DavidSW or Takuya (where photo is linked from) and see if they can source you one. You should be paying 15-16K for that watch in same condition and full set. That one I grabbed from his old stock was listed at $13,725.

You’re right.. I actually reached out to them both already as I saw they both had that watch in stock recently. Wow that was a great grab ! What was this watch listed as new ? It seems that possibly the Daytona would hold better value if purchased at retail.

V25V · 27 November 2018, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony8959

You’re right.. I actually reached out to them both already as I saw they both had that watch in stock recently. Wow that was a great grab ! What was this watch listed as new ? It seems that possibly the Daytona would hold better value if purchased at retail.

New was $22,800.

Sure, the Daytona will hold its value better if bought from an AD and if that's what you are after, go for it and good luck. But the Daytona is not worth ~$20K and the AP is 100% worth all of ~$15K and should always be worth about that if you take care of it. Are you buying this watch as an "investment" or to enjoy/appreciate it? If the latter, AP all the way if its one or the other. Can always get the AP now and stay waiting for a Daytona at MSRP.....

Burlington · 27 November 2018, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by V25V

New was $22,800.

Sure, the Daytona will hold its value better if bought from an AD and if that's what you are after, go for it and good luck. But the Daytona is not worth ~$20K and the AP is 100% worth all of ~$15K and should always be worth about that if you take care of it. Are you buying this watch as an "investment" or to enjoy/appreciate it? If the latter, AP all the way if its one or the other. Can always get the AP now and stay waiting for a Daytona at MSRP.....

Sound advice...you cant compare vs. the inflated secondary price of a Daytona.

Tony8959 · 27 November 2018, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Burlington

Sound advice...you cant compare vs. the inflated secondary price of a Daytona.

Yes this is true .. I have to see if prices will stabilize back out.

Vipes · 27 November 2018, 08:13 AM

I had one and really liked it. It is one of the best looking AP chronos, IMO. As with any pre-owned AP, ask if it has been polished and by whom.

Tony8959 · 27 November 2018, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vipes

I had one and really liked it. It is one of the best looking AP chronos, IMO. As with any pre-owned AP, ask if it has been polished and by whom.

Why did you get rid of it ? I asked and said it’s pristine and didn’t get polished. On the other hand the Daytona I was looking at apparently did get a “professional” polish though which I don’t know i should avoid.

Vipes · 27 November 2018, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony8959

Why did you get rid of it ? I asked and said it’s pristine and didn’t get polished. On the other hand the Daytona I was looking at apparently did get a “professional” polish though which I don’t know i should avoid.

I got rid of it because I needed the funds for the Datograph. It’s definitely better looking than the Daytona but the Daytona is less of a worry since it has the ceramic bezel. Daytona also wears smaller so better for smaller wrists.

srvrf · 27 November 2018, 12:51 PM

I've owned two Daytonas and currently have a 25860. To me, the 39mm AP is perfect for my 6.5" wrist. I found it way more legible than both Daytonas [which is partly why I flipped them]. The only downsides to the AP for me is that it is only 50m WR and there are definitely higher service costs. To me the "scratchability" of the brushed AP is similar to the PCLs of the Daytonas. That panda dial is awesome.

Tony8959 · 27 November 2018, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by srvrf

I've owned two Daytonas and currently have a 25860. To me, the 39mm AP is perfect for my 6.5" wrist. I found it way more legible than both Daytonas [which is partly why I flipped them]. The only downsides to the AP for me is that it is only 50m WR and there are definitely higher service costs. To me the "scratchability" of the brushed AP is similar to the PCLs of the Daytonas. That panda dial is awesome.

It’s definitely a unique look and an awesome dial overall. Combined with one of the best bracelets around makes for a tremendous watch. I was told though that the clasp is big underneath and may extend over my wrist.

Sulituan · 27 March 2019, 02:30 PM

OP, have you taken a look at the 38mm ROC? There is no Panda dial though, yet, wanted to give you a heads up.

Tony8959 · 27 March 2019, 02:50 PM

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OP, have you taken a look at the 38mm ROC? There is no Panda dial though, yet, wanted to give you a heads up.

I haven’t seen it in person but the 38mm chronos are great looking in pictures .. especially the white with blue subs. Back in December though I ended up making the move for the Daytona as I kept coming back to it. Also, didn’t want to end up getting a 6-7 year old AP. With my wrist size, it’s been a challenge finding sports watches that fit well. Think the Daytona checked that box as well. Been really enjoying it so far, but I’m still tempted by the ROC and panda Daytona as well. We’ll see what happens down the road lol.

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Sulituan · 27 March 2019, 04:13 PM

That 116500 BD is awesome of course!

Tony8959 · 29 March 2019, 10:29 AM

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That 116500 BD is awesome of course!

Thank you sir !

Roy7 · 11 April 2019, 10:28 PM

I sold mine then rebought it (broke even).

Love it. Prefer it to the new 41 mm panda.

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Jorssen · 11 April 2019, 10:55 PM

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I sold mine then rebought it (broke even).

Love it. Prefer it to the new 41 mm panda.

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I had one and sold it as well, regretted it after 2y and been looking to buy it again as well. Great watch for sure and imo the best ROC that AP ever produced.

Tony8959 · 12 April 2019, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy7

I sold mine then rebought it (broke even).

Love it. Prefer it to the new 41 mm panda.

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Such a great looking watch !!

Razorsedge1 · 12 April 2019, 05:22 AM

[QUOTE=Tony8959;9120313]It’s definjtely a hard choice.. how would you say the 39mm AP sits on the wrist compared to Daytona ? 19.8k I was quoted is a little pricey but in new Daytona ballpark , difference being service costs[/QUOTE

I consider AP to be dressier and wear mine on special occasions. Daytona is less fragile and gets more wrist time. That being said if I could only keep one it would AP. Good luck.

wisguy · 12 April 2019, 05:55 AM

I had a blue dial years ago, great everyday watch.

25 November 2018, 03:24 PM	#1
Tony8959 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 454	AP 39mm Chrono Panda Dial As I was looking into alternatives for the Daytona. I ran across the now out of production 39mm panda dial chrono. I love the new models but 41mm will not fit my small wrist. Does anyone have the 39mm panda? I’m torn if the chrono takes away that classic AP royal oak look. But it’s a beautiful watch. I would love to hear some feedback and see some wrist shots !

26 November 2018, 01:42 PM	#4
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	I've owned 41mm and 39mm Royal Oaks, like the 39mm proportions much better. The chrono is great, I owned a 26300 blue dial. A great alternative to a Daytona for roughly the same money depending on model and condition. __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

12 April 2019, 05:55 AM	#30
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	I had a blue dial years ago, great everyday watch. __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

26 November 2018, 01:21 PM	#2
Stonedcl "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Nj Watch: 116200, 116610 Posts: 1,191	This was my dream watch at one point. Ari Gold wore it in the final season on enterage. I ended up getting a Patek 5167 instead and from a value perspective I am glad I did..

26 November 2018, 06:15 PM	#7
SC11 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Watch: AP ☠️ Posts: 6,151	They didn’t do a 39mm panda in stainless steel The early 26300ST had a couple of dial options with slightly contrasting sub dials but no true panda dial (from memory)

27 November 2018, 01:41 AM	#9
V25V 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA Posts: 4,406	Love the 26300 Panda. You mean this one below? If so, YES! No brainer against the Daytona for me.

27 November 2018, 01:55 AM	#11
Razorsedge1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Miami Beach Posts: 448	White chrono looks great! Go for it.

27 November 2018, 08:13 AM	#17
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,913	I had one and really liked it. It is one of the best looking AP chronos, IMO. As with any pre-owned AP, ask if it has been polished and by whom.

27 November 2018, 12:51 PM	#20
srvrf 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Steve Location: Indiana Watch: PP/AP/VC Posts: 2,158	I've owned two Daytonas and currently have a 25860. To me, the 39mm AP is perfect for my 6.5" wrist. I found it way more legible than both Daytonas [which is partly why I flipped them]. The only downsides to the AP for me is that it is only 50m WR and there are definitely higher service costs. To me the "scratchability" of the brushed AP is similar to the PCLs of the Daytonas. That panda dial is awesome.

27 March 2019, 02:30 PM	#22
Sulituan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Clould 9 Posts: 122	OP, have you taken a look at the 38mm ROC? There is no Panda dial though, yet, wanted to give you a heads up.

27 March 2019, 04:13 PM	#24
Sulituan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Clould 9 Posts: 122	That 116500 BD is awesome of course!

11 April 2019, 10:28 PM	#26
Roy7 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Maryland Watch: 16613, 16570 Posts: 622	I sold mine then rebought it (broke even). Love it. Prefer it to the new 41 mm panda. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 April 2019, 05:22 AM	#29
Razorsedge1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Miami Beach Posts: 448	[QUOTE=Tony8959;9120313]It’s definjtely a hard choice.. how would you say the 39mm AP sits on the wrist compared to Daytona ? 19.8k I was quoted is a little pricey but in new Daytona ballpark , difference being service costs[/QUOTE I consider AP to be dressier and wear mine on special occasions. Daytona is less fragile and gets more wrist time. That being said if I could only keep one it would AP. Good luck.

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