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Dlong · 30 December 2018, 02:30 AM

Can someone tell me what this means. If I have a newer sub with date and ceramic dial , what is it? 6 digit because its new??

acfcheung · 30 December 2018, 02:31 AM

reference number

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Chilly Coconut · 30 December 2018, 02:35 AM

Look at the reference number of your watch, and then count the digits. Make sense?

fleabag · 30 December 2018, 02:39 AM

These are examples of 5 Digits

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Dlong · 30 December 2018, 02:42 AM

116610LN, 6 DIGITS. I'm guessing the newer models are 6 digits with the .ceramic bezel

rolexpatek363 · 30 December 2018, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fleabag

These are examples of 5 Digits

Fours..

The lower the number of digits, the better-looking they get.

fleabag · 30 December 2018, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexpatek363

Fours..

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4’s on fire

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rolexpatek363 · 30 December 2018, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by fleabag

4’s on fire

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Thanks. I love the 4s and 5s.

6s, not so much.

fleabag · 30 December 2018, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexpatek363

Thanks. I love the 4s and 5s.

6s, not so much.

I’ll agree with you on that one

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thesharkfactor · 30 December 2018, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dlong

Can someone tell me what this means. If I have a newer sub with date and ceramic dial , what is it? 6 digit because its new??

6 digit watches started around 2006. It refers to the serial numbers.. a Submariner date used to be a 16610, now it's a 116610.

padi56 · 30 December 2018, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dlong

Can someone tell me what this means. If I have a newer sub with date and ceramic dial , what is it? 6 digit because its new??

Take the 5 digit sub date reference 16610 first introduced in 1988 now we have the the 6 digit 116610 ceramic.Same movement slightly different case, ceramic insert plus a few cosmetic changes and thats about it..

Dlong · 30 December 2018, 02:55 AM

Gotcha. Thanks. Some people dont like the ceramic bezel, so I guess they would have to hunt for a used model 5 digit,right?

Pureform · 30 December 2018, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Take the 5 digit sub date reference 16610 first introduced in 1988 now we have the the 6 digit 116610 ceramic.Same movement slightly different case, ceramic insert plus a few cosmetic changes and thats about it..

Don't forget the actual first 5 digits introduced in 1984 reference 16800... Thank you

thesharkfactor · 30 December 2018, 02:57 AM

Trouble I find when looking is trying to find a 5 digit in good condition (with nice shoulders and tight bracelet), because they are getting on a bit now! There are many tired looking watches for sale for top money.

rolexpatek363 · 30 December 2018, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

Trouble I find when looking is trying to find a 5 digit in good condition (with nice shoulders and tight bracelet), because they are getting on a bit now! There are many tired looking watches for sale for top money.

Here's my 16610 (2001). Still in great shape.

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Dlong · 30 December 2018, 03:01 AM

My buddies sub that got stolen at a very high end hotel in south beach looked like the one in the pic above with the orange submariner lettering. Could have sworn his second hand was orange as well. maybe it was just the lettering. He swears to this day he would never get one with the ceramic bezel.

I remember his wife bought it for him for his 40th bday 18 years ago. She paid $4000 for it with a discount. It killed her because she is a VP for Movado.

fleabag · 30 December 2018, 03:10 AM

2003,LV

MK1

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rolexpatek363 · 30 December 2018, 03:11 AM

The lettering is red. The disappearance of lugholes was the beginning of the end!

zengineer · 30 December 2018, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

6 digit watches started around 2006. It refers to the serial numbers.. a Submariner date used to be a 16610, now it's a 116610.

You mean referance numbers (basically model numbers), not serial numbers.

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Chilly Coconut · 30 December 2018, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

6 digit watches started around 2006. It refers to the serial numbers.. a Submariner date used to be a 16610, now it's a 116610.

Not serial numbers. Reference numbers.

JP. · 30 December 2018, 06:15 AM

This picture by John Holbrook sums it up, pretty much.

JP. · 30 December 2018, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexpatek363

Fours..

The lower the number of digits, the better-looking they get.

Not a huge fan of six-digits, either.

But I prefer the newer post 2000-> 5-digits over the older ones because I love the white gold surroundings and I've never been a fan of those tritium markers that get yellow.

Just a personal preference.

That being said, your 4-digits are amazing.

The Libertine · 30 December 2018, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexpatek363

Thanks. I love the 4s and 5s.

6s, not so much.

I’ll agree!

Beowulf · 30 December 2018, 07:07 AM

In these fields, people always prefer the old, that is not available.

5 digits are nice, but 6 digits offered great technological improvements (ceramics 8x stronger than steel, better movements, Glidelock comfort, solid links, etc).

Speed · 30 December 2018, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dlong

Can someone tell me what this means. If I have a newer sub with date and ceramic dial , what is it? 6 digit because its new??

Did you count your digits?

Pureform · 30 December 2018, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JP.

Not a huge fan of six-digits, either.

But I prefer the newer post 2000-> 5-digits over the older ones because I love the white gold surroundings and I've never been a fan of those tritium markers that get yellow.

Just a personal preference.

That being said, your 4-digits are amazing.

1984 reference 16800 is the first introduction of the white gold surrounds...

mikeyatc · 30 December 2018, 10:39 AM

I'll take a 5 digit thanks...

Patton250 · 30 December 2018, 10:56 AM

Both are awesome. The 6 digits look better though.

s.m.b. · 30 December 2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dlong

Gotcha. Thanks. Some people dont like the ceramic bezel, so I guess they would have to hunt for a used model 5 digit,right?

Not much of a hunt, as there are plenty out there. Can't go wrong with 4, 5, or 6. If I were interested in purchasing a used/vintage Rolex Submariner or Submariner Date, I'd get a 4 digit reference, for sure.

ColtAuto7 · 30 December 2018, 11:37 AM

Thank you for the picture, JP. Very helpful in discerning the fine points of the size difference.

30 December 2018, 02:30 AM	#1
Dlong Banned Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Nj Watch: Black sub Date Posts: 456	5 and 6 digit Can someone tell me what this means. If I have a newer sub with date and ceramic dial , what is it? 6 digit because its new??

30 December 2018, 03:10 AM	#17
fleabag "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,212	2003,LVMK1 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 December 2018, 06:15 AM	#21
JP. "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Juho Location: Finland Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 1,914	This picture by John Holbrook sums it up, pretty much. __________________ My Luxury Watch Reviews Blog

30 December 2018, 10:39 AM	#27
mikeyatc "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: conus Watch: 16610 Posts: 222	I'll take a 5 digit thanks... Attached Images

30 December 2018, 10:56 AM	#28
Patton250 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Brett Location: Florida Watch: 5205R Posts: 5,160	Both are awesome. The 6 digits look better though. __________________ Morality does not derive from consensus. It only comes from one place. Pride goes before destruction, and haughtiness before a fall. Often times unbelief is disguised as wisdom Instagram - patton250

30 December 2018, 02:31 AM	#2
acfcheung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: AC Location: Hong Kong Watch: SD4K for now Posts: 422	reference number Sent from my LYA-L29 using Tapatalk

30 December 2018, 02:35 AM	#3
Chilly Coconut Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: South Posts: 558	Look at the reference number of your watch, and then count the digits. Make sense?

30 December 2018, 02:39 AM	#4
fleabag "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,212	These are examples of 5 Digits Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 December 2018, 02:42 AM	#5
Dlong Banned Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Nj Watch: Black sub Date Posts: 456	116610LN, 6 DIGITS. I'm guessing the newer models are 6 digits with the .ceramic bezel

30 December 2018, 02:55 AM	#12
Dlong Banned Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Nj Watch: Black sub Date Posts: 456	Gotcha. Thanks. Some people dont like the ceramic bezel, so I guess they would have to hunt for a used model 5 digit,right?

30 December 2018, 02:57 AM	#14
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,643	Trouble I find when looking is trying to find a 5 digit in good condition (with nice shoulders and tight bracelet), because they are getting on a bit now! There are many tired looking watches for sale for top money.

30 December 2018, 03:01 AM	#16
Dlong Banned Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Nj Watch: Black sub Date Posts: 456	My buddies sub that got stolen at a very high end hotel in south beach looked like the one in the pic above with the orange submariner lettering. Could have sworn his second hand was orange as well. maybe it was just the lettering. He swears to this day he would never get one with the ceramic bezel. I remember his wife bought it for him for his 40th bday 18 years ago. She paid $4000 for it with a discount. It killed her because she is a VP for Movado.

30 December 2018, 03:11 AM	#18
rolexpatek363 Banned Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: up a hill Posts: 1,979	The lettering is red. The disappearance of lugholes was the beginning of the end!

30 December 2018, 07:07 AM	#24
Beowulf "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: European Union Posts: 244	In these fields, people always prefer the old, that is not available. 5 digits are nice, but 6 digits offered great technological improvements (ceramics 8x stronger than steel, better movements, Glidelock comfort, solid links, etc).

30 December 2018, 11:37 AM	#30
ColtAuto7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Real Name: Robert Location: S. California Watch: A 16613 "Blue Boy" Posts: 164	Thank you for the picture, JP. Very helpful in discerning the fine points of the size difference.

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