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nc42acc · 23 January 2009, 10:34 PM

I think this is an appropriate question for this section. I contacted a well advertised internet grey dealer about a GMT II via numerous emails and phone conversation. I asked in both my emails and in the conversation for them to send me actual pictures of the watch in question since the web site pictures were stock photos. All I received was a pushy sales tactic about the purchase could be made via credit card and that would protect me. The guy said I had a three day inspection period to verify the watch. What is more strange is this person stated he had both a M and Z serial but kept trying to sell me a M series he "just got in" that had no papers. I hate to say but this company has been mentioned on this forum and the mention that is made to me sounds like someone from the company praising themselves. I would rather not name names but if anyone would like to discuss this with me via PM I would be glad to elaborate. Is this typical of grey market dealers?

TimeToGo · 24 January 2009, 12:02 AM

Pushy sales tactics.

Three day inspection period to verify the watch. Once they have your money - ADIOS

Rather not name names.

Typical of grey dealers - sounds more like typical of scammers!

sirjohnbrian · 24 January 2009, 01:22 AM

Being advertised on the internet doesn't mean having a good reputation. I can think of at least 3 or 4 shady companies that I know of that at first glance would seem like proper businesses but are total shams.

nc42acc · 24 January 2009, 01:27 AM

I guess where I was going with this is they have been mentioned on TRF in a favorable light. I didn't get a good feeling from my dealings and wanted to voice my findings. I would rather not mention any names as they may be perfectly legit.

onkyo · 24 January 2009, 03:19 AM

I would be careful, but you do have significant protection with a credit card. My cc company has ALWAYS backed me with any problems.

Not getting papers is a deal killer for me.

I bought from Jomashop twice (a well known grey dealer in NYC) and never had a problem. They were actually great.

Sometimes grey dealers don't want to give out the certificate because they don't want you to know where the watch originated (often abroad).

Good luck!

Terry Newton · 24 January 2009, 03:07 PM

No Links Listed for this sale.

Terry Newton

eshoper · 25 January 2009, 01:07 AM

post up sum links

23 January 2009, 10:34 PM	#1
nc42acc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Marty Location: North Carolina Watch: out!!!!! Posts: 502	Internet Sales I think this is an appropriate question for this section. I contacted a well advertised internet grey dealer about a GMT II via numerous emails and phone conversation. I asked in both my emails and in the conversation for them to send me actual pictures of the watch in question since the web site pictures were stock photos. All I received was a pushy sales tactic about the purchase could be made via credit card and that would protect me. The guy said I had a three day inspection period to verify the watch. What is more strange is this person stated he had both a M and Z serial but kept trying to sell me a M series he "just got in" that had no papers. I hate to say but this company has been mentioned on this forum and the mention that is made to me sounds like someone from the company praising themselves. I would rather not name names but if anyone would like to discuss this with me via PM I would be glad to elaborate. Is this typical of grey market dealers?

24 January 2009, 01:22 AM	#3
sirjohnbrian "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PA Watch: 'chu lookin' at??? Posts: 964	Being advertised on the internet doesn't mean having a good reputation. I can think of at least 3 or 4 shady companies that I know of that at first glance would seem like proper businesses but are total shams. __________________ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." Mark Twain "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." Homer Simpson SS Midsize DJ 68274 "L" TT Jubilee DJ 116233 "Z" Sea Dweller DS 116660 "V" SS White Dial Daytona "V"

24 January 2009, 03:07 PM	#6
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	No Links Listed for this sale. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

24 January 2009, 12:02 AM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Pushy sales tactics. Three day inspection period to verify the watch. Once they have your money - ADIOS Rather not name names. Typical of grey dealers - sounds more like typical of scammers!

24 January 2009, 01:27 AM	#4
nc42acc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Marty Location: North Carolina Watch: out!!!!! Posts: 502	I guess where I was going with this is they have been mentioned on TRF in a favorable light. I didn't get a good feeling from my dealings and wanted to voice my findings. I would rather not mention any names as they may be perfectly legit.

24 January 2009, 03:19 AM	#5
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	I would be careful, but you do have significant protection with a credit card. My cc company has ALWAYS backed me with any problems. Not getting papers is a deal killer for me. I bought from Jomashop twice (a well known grey dealer in NYC) and never had a problem. They were actually great. Sometimes grey dealers don't want to give out the certificate because they don't want you to know where the watch originated (often abroad). Good luck!

25 January 2009, 01:07 AM	#7
eshoper "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ptown Posts: 8	post up sum links

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