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Dabbadon8 · 11 February 2019, 07:31 AM

I'm not taking a position, but I'm interested in hearing the opinions here on the following point (playing devil's advocate): Why hunt for and pay more for a Sub when you can get a DJ easily, in light of:

- Both Sub and DJ available on an oyster bracelet. (These are more or less the same besides from the clasp).

- Both Sub (date) and DJ have the same movement (3135).

- Both are water resistant to a point where there is no functional difference for most owners. Sub (300m) v. DJ (100m).

- SS DJ costs $6,600 retail v. SS Sub date $8,550

Is the approx. $2,000 USD and extra effort worth it for a rotating bezel and mostly unused depth resistance? Is it simply the look that makes the difference? Interested in the thoughts of the WIS here.

My DJ for reference:

Daveclock · 11 February 2019, 07:35 AM

I personally prefer the sporty look of the "sport range" and think the DJ's are old mens watches.
(that is only my opinion) but it is what I "think" and why I would choose Sport/Professional.

It also helps these watches don't tank in resale value too! (not meant as a flipper remark)

Montremoi · 11 February 2019, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Daveclock

I personally prefer the sporty look of the "sport range" and think the DJ's are old mens watches.

Yeah, this. Look is very important when it comes to appeal. If I don't like the look of a watch I won't even care about its specs nor its price.

The Sub and DJ have very different looks, so comparing them is akin to comparing apples to oranges.

Horses for courses, etc.

mk2jag · 12 February 2019, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Daveclock

I personally prefer the sporty look of the "sport range" and think the DJ's are old mens watches.
(that is only my opinion) but it is what I "think" and why I would choose Sport/Professional.

It also helps these watches don't tank in resale value too! (not meant as a flipper remark)

im an old man, maybe thats why im starting to gravitate to DJ's.

GMTmatt · 11 February 2019, 07:36 AM

James Bond does not wear a DJ.

pandrew · 11 February 2019, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GMTmatt

James Bond does not wear a DJ.

Neither does Thomas Magnum.

mangoseed · 12 February 2019, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMTmatt

James Bond does not wear a DJ.

James Bond doesn't wear anything because he doesn't exist.

reeko · 3 April 2019, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mangoseed

James Bond doesn't wear anything because he doesn't exist.

This! And I agree with everything late has responded with. I haven't seen any anyone wear a sub where I am, just DJs and one milgauss.

Either way, both watches are great and iconic and sought after buy the normal population.

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Dsmith1974 · 2 April 2019, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GMTmatt

James Bond does not wear a DJ.

He wears dinner jackets.

dannyp · 3 April 2019, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMTmatt

James Bond does not wear a DJ.

The Sub-wearing Bond also wouldn’t last a day in the MeToo era, but that’s beside the point... ;)

Finslayer83 · 3 April 2019, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GMTmatt

James Bond does not wear a DJ.

Started with an explorer.

lguevara91 · 4 April 2019, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMTmatt

James Bond does not wear a DJ.

yes.. he wears an omega!

oldman2005 · 4 April 2019, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lguevara91

yes.. he wears an omega!

According to this article, he wore lots of Seiko too:

https://www.watchtime.com/featured/watches-james-bond/

I never knew he wore a Seiko Golden Tuna Professional, it's such a cool watch!

Innocenti · 18 August 2019, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GMTmatt

James Bond does not wear a DJ.

He wears omega 😆

Dsmith1974 · 19 August 2019, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMTmatt

James Bond does not wear a DJ.

He wears a Tux..

SLSteve · 20 August 2019, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GMTmatt

James Bond does not wear a DJ.

Winston Churchill did. And he was real. And funnier. And this is coming from a long-time James Boond enthousiast!

Dean88 · 11 February 2019, 07:39 AM

I personally see DJs as quite dressy, I don't dress up all that often so I prefer the sporty aspect of a submariner.

kirksingleton · 11 February 2019, 07:40 AM

If you would rather wear the Dj, then save your money! Me, I have 4 subs and just sold my only Dj.

DramaTurtle · 11 February 2019, 07:45 AM

Rolex is only as good as its sports range.

Tools · 11 February 2019, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dabbadon8

I'm not taking a position, but I'm interested in hearing the opinions here on the following point (playing devil's advocate): Why hunt for and pay more for a Sub when you can get a DJ easily, in light of:

. . .

Because I don't want a DJ?

watchwatcher · 11 February 2019, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Because I don't want a DJ?

Boom.

rlx123 · 3 July 2019, 05:18 PM

I have a Datejust, a hulk and bluesy. I always like to put on my Datejust even when i am in jeans and t shirts. So comfortable and just beautiful. Get more looks than the subs , but I don’t really care. I love it and i am going to wear it

Jamie1111 · 3 July 2019, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryantto

I have a Datejust, a hulk and bluesy. I always like to put on my Datejust even when i am in jeans and t shirts. So comfortable and just beautiful. Get more looks than the subs , but I don’t really care. I love it and i am going to wear it

Snap, I forgot that, gotta admit dj 41 feels like you’re not wearing a watch. Where the sub is 2nd to that (extremely comfortable)

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mountainjogger · 3 January 2020, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Because I don't want a DJ?

Bingo.

Brew · 11 February 2019, 07:49 AM

Some folks prefer the aesthetics of the sub. Perhaps its heritage. Fits their image of themselves a bit closer. etc.

There's no accounting for taste.

Burlington · 11 February 2019, 07:51 AM

Totally different looks and functionality. Really cannot compare the two aside from they both keep hours, minutes, seconds and date.

H25B · 11 February 2019, 07:53 AM

Because, personally, I think the Datejust is ugly...

Remember, you asked...

Likestheshiny · 11 February 2019, 07:55 AM

Making a comparison based on functionality when we're talking about jewelry seems a little silly. Style and appearance is at least part of the decision about what watch to buy.

You might as well ask why Rolex bothers to make the submariner at all, when obviously it's the same as a datejust.

burnthesehills · 11 February 2019, 08:08 AM

First off, the $6,600 DJ you are comparing is the 36mm version so it’s not quite an apples to apples comparison to the 40mm Submariner. A more accurate comparison would be the DJ41 which starts at $7,350.

Aside from the “dive features” - better water resistance and elapsed time bezel,

-The Submariner Date is a sports versus dress watch
-It’s more iconic
-Some people do not want polished center links and case as they scratch easier
-Glidelock clasp on the Sub is considered by many to be superior

Having said this, the DJ41 is a fine watch (as is the DJ36) and a worthy consideration for anyone looking for a Rolex. I would personally go with an OP39 which is cheaper than all of them if I was in the market for a dress watch.

huncho · 11 February 2019, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burnthesehills

First off, the $6,600 DJ you are comparing is the 36mm version so it’s not quite an apples to apples comparison to the 40mm Submariner. A more accurate comparison would be the DJ41 which starts at $7,350.

Aside from the “dive features” - better water resistance and elapsed time bezel,

-The Submariner Date is a sports versus dress watch
-It’s more iconic
-Some people do not want polished center links and case as they scratch easier
-Glidelock clasp on the Sub is considered by many to be superior

Having said this, the DJ41 is a fine watch (as is the DJ36) and a worthy consideration for anyone looking for a Rolex. I would personally go with an OP39 which is cheaper than all of them if I was in the market for a dress watch.

sub being more iconic than a dj is debatable

11 February 2019, 07:31 AM	#1
Dabbadon8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Miami USA Posts: 343	Why go through trouble and expense of getting Sub (v. DJ)? I'm not taking a position, but I'm interested in hearing the opinions here on the following point (playing devil's advocate): Why hunt for and pay more for a Sub when you can get a DJ easily, in light of: - Both Sub and DJ available on an oyster bracelet. (These are more or less the same besides from the clasp). - Both Sub (date) and DJ have the same movement (3135). - Both are water resistant to a point where there is no functional difference for most owners. Sub (300m) v. DJ (100m). - SS DJ costs $6,600 retail v. SS Sub date $8,550 Is the approx. $2,000 USD and extra effort worth it for a rotating bezel and mostly unused depth resistance? Is it simply the look that makes the difference? Interested in the thoughts of the WIS here. My DJ for reference:

11 February 2019, 07:36 AM	#5
GMTmatt "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Matt Location: USA Watch: 16710 Pepsi Posts: 190	James Bond does not wear a DJ. __________________ Cash is king, cash flow is queen

11 February 2019, 07:51 AM	#26
Burlington "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 5,643	Totally different looks and functionality. Really cannot compare the two aside from they both keep hours, minutes, seconds and date. __________________ “My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” ― Winston S. Churchill

11 February 2019, 07:35 AM	#2
Daveclock "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Real Name: Dave Location: UK Watch: ing and waiting! Posts: 864	I personally prefer the sporty look of the "sport range" and think the DJ's are old mens watches. (that is only my opinion) but it is what I "think" and why I would choose Sport/Professional. It also helps these watches don't tank in resale value too! (not meant as a flipper remark)

11 February 2019, 07:39 AM	#17
Dean88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: London Posts: 67	I personally see DJs as quite dressy, I don't dress up all that often so I prefer the sporty aspect of a submariner.

11 February 2019, 07:40 AM	#18
kirksingleton "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,759	If you would rather wear the Dj, then save your money! Me, I have 4 subs and just sold my only Dj.

3 July 2019, 05:18 PM	#22
rlx123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: USA Posts: 747	I have a Datejust, a hulk and bluesy. I always like to put on my Datejust even when i am in jeans and t shirts. So comfortable and just beautiful. Get more looks than the subs , but I don’t really care. I love it and i am going to wear it

11 February 2019, 07:49 AM	#25
Brew "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Larry Location: Finger Lakes Posts: 6,007	Some folks prefer the aesthetics of the sub. Perhaps its heritage. Fits their image of themselves a bit closer. etc. There's no accounting for taste.

11 February 2019, 07:53 AM	#27
H25B "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Midwest Watch: BLNR, SD43, OP31 Posts: 425	Because, personally, I think the Datejust is ugly... Remember, you asked...

11 February 2019, 07:55 AM	#28
Likestheshiny "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: _ Posts: 1,877	Making a comparison based on functionality when we're talking about jewelry seems a little silly. Style and appearance is at least part of the decision about what watch to buy. You might as well ask why Rolex bothers to make the submariner at all, when obviously it's the same as a datejust.

11 February 2019, 08:08 AM	#29
burnthesehills "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: Joe Location: Western MA Posts: 1,211	First off, the $6,600 DJ you are comparing is the 36mm version so it’s not quite an apples to apples comparison to the 40mm Submariner. A more accurate comparison would be the DJ41 which starts at $7,350. Aside from the “dive features” - better water resistance and elapsed time bezel, -The Submariner Date is a sports versus dress watch -It’s more iconic -Some people do not want polished center links and case as they scratch easier -Glidelock clasp on the Sub is considered by many to be superior Having said this, the DJ41 is a fine watch (as is the DJ36) and a worthy consideration for anyone looking for a Rolex. I would personally go with an OP39 which is cheaper than all of them if I was in the market for a dress watch.

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