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Old 29 March 2019, 09:19 AM   #1
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Old 29 March 2019, 09:26 AM   #2
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Not an expert but gonna say fake
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Old 29 March 2019, 09:30 AM   #3
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Old 29 March 2019, 09:40 AM   #4
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Purchased from very good reputation seller on TRF
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Old 29 March 2019, 10:08 AM   #5
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Old 29 March 2019, 10:27 AM   #6
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The date is very much left justified, interesting.


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Old 29 March 2019, 11:27 AM   #7
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Old 29 March 2019, 01:41 PM   #8
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Old 29 March 2019, 02:26 PM   #9
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Not an expert but gonna say fake
Extremely helpful insight.

Any chance of you doing authentication consulting?
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Old 29 March 2019, 05:45 PM   #10
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The date is very much left justified, interesting.


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That appears to be the angle of the pic...
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Old 29 March 2019, 11:53 PM   #11
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No red flags.
Can not authenticate or claim from those photos
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Looks good and trusted TRF seller all positive - did he not post more/better photos.
I checked serial number 8780D4P1 and that does not list as FAKE
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Old 30 March 2019, 01:47 AM   #12
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Old 30 March 2019, 02:16 AM   #13
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The serial number 8790D4P1. Again thank you very much for your inputs
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Old 30 March 2019, 02:35 AM   #14
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The serial number 8790D4P1. Again thank you very much for your inputs
Serial number is clean - not reported as fake
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Old 30 March 2019, 05:12 AM   #15
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Looks good from here!
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Old 30 March 2019, 07:47 AM   #16
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Old 30 March 2019, 08:46 AM   #17
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It looks good to me, too.
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Old 30 March 2019, 09:33 AM   #18
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Nice watch!
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Old 30 March 2019, 07:17 PM   #19
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I checked serial number 8780D4P1 and that does not list as FAKE
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Agree watch is all good, but the days of fakes all sharing the same serial number are long gone. The fakes now use sequential and random serials.
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Old 31 March 2019, 02:26 AM   #20
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Agree watch is all good, but the days of fakes all sharing the same serial number are long gone. The fakes now use sequential and random serials.
Not quite. They do use random serial numbers, but they are not sequential - indeed not even Rolex use sequential numbering since 2010.

The fake have a number of random serial numbers, but in time most get recorded. not every fake has a completely different number. In fact we see the same number over a range of models (usually if same case size)
I never said its foolproof, just another item to take care and try
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Old 31 March 2019, 07:01 PM   #21
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Not quite. They do use random serial numbers, but they are not sequential - indeed not even Rolex use sequential numbering since 2010.

The fake have a number of random serial numbers, but in time most get recorded. not every fake has a completely different number. In fact we see the same number over a range of models (usually if same case size)
I never said its foolproof, just another item to take care and try
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I’m well aware of Rolex’s serial number system, I buy and sell watches for a living and have done for the last 15 years.

That may be true for the cheap market style fakes. The ‘higher quality’ fakes certainly use sequential serials prior to a G serial and random serials on the later cases. Recording them would be impossible, the big counterfeit factory’s are pumping out tens of thousands of these things year.
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Old 1 April 2019, 02:21 AM   #22
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That may be true for the cheap market style fakes. The ‘higher quality’ fakes certainly use sequential serials prior to a G serial and random serials on the later cases. .
Well we can agree to disagree, but in my experience even the top counterfeit manufacturers do not do random serial numbers for EVERY watch!

If they did, why do we find same serial number multiple times and more importantly the same serial number spread over different models?

Anyway - its fine to disagree - regards
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Old 13 May 2019, 03:24 AM   #24
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Is there a website then to check serial numbers if fake or real?
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Old 13 May 2019, 06:12 AM   #25
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Is there a website then to check serial numbers if fake or real?
THERE is a company called CSA (Watch Certification Services of America).
You have to pay for it which my company does - its not bullet proof, but seems to catch a lot!
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