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Old 19 June 2019, 10:51 AM   #1
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When AD looses Status

When any of you have seen a local AD loose status... (I’d imagine there is no announcement) but do they discount any prices? Return their inventory, or continue to sell until all are gone?

Our local ad’s in Nashville are loosing their AD status and have called some customers to notify them of such. Not sure if it’s worth going into see what’s left or just let it be.







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Old 19 June 2019, 10:54 AM   #2
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They pay for the watches up front. So they’re theirs to gray.
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Old 19 June 2019, 10:57 AM   #3
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I say go, and then report back to us! I’m curious to know if discounts will be had as well.
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Old 19 June 2019, 10:58 AM   #4
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My local AD here in Connecticut lost their status and said they just received a three line letter form Rolex saying that the relationship was ending, full stop. Left the AD with a bit of a mess returning deposits, etc. Sad to see...
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Old 19 June 2019, 10:59 AM   #5
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They pay for the watches up front. So they’re theirs to gray.
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Old 19 June 2019, 11:03 AM   #6
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Just means they can't order any new watches. The ones they have in stock will sell as usual.
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Old 19 June 2019, 11:04 AM   #7
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My local AD here in Connecticut lost their status and said they just received a three line letter form Rolex saying that the relationship was ending, full stop. Left the AD with a bit of a mess returning deposits, etc. Sad to see...

Saw a similar thing play out here in Maryland. Brief letter, followed by relatively quick removal of signage, and the rest of it. I got some notice and an (unnecessary) apology about their inability to execute a promise on a DaytonaC (following on the 116520, which was my first of several purchases from them).

I like dealing with those guys and if they pick up Omega or something else interesting, I’ll still be their customer.
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Old 19 June 2019, 11:19 AM   #8
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Our local AD lost their status back in 2011. At the time, Rolex was just beginning to require AD’s to invest more heavily in revamping their stores to showcase the product line ... almost boutique like settings. My AD was an older gentleman and couldn’t see himself investing in the store remake so it was sort of a mutual parting of the ways.

He simply sold off his inventory at a discount. I bought my first ceramic gmt from him for list less 20%. Those were the days.
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Old 19 June 2019, 11:24 AM   #9
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Not like it matters these days, the expensive displays are almost always empty.
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Old 19 June 2019, 11:33 AM   #10
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When AD looses Status

I seen some lose status they get a notice, in the past had a chance to try and fill any last orders,
we’re still on the directory for maybe a month before they were dropped off
Then had to remove signage.
My former ad One had a watchmaker onsite was still able to order service parts for a period of time after bit that ended too.
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Old 19 June 2019, 11:50 AM   #11
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Not like it matters these days, the expensive displays are almost always empty.

Case in point, an AD I stopped in this afternoon had THIS to show me...




...or not show me, as things turned out.
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Old 19 June 2019, 12:03 PM   #12
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Everything else is in the back waiting for the "right" customer.
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Old 19 June 2019, 12:23 PM   #13
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A local AD lost status without notice. I had purchased something from them around the 5th of that month. I found out they lost AD because by around the 12th of that month most of their stuff was sitting at the jewelry exchange where my buddy has a store.


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Old 19 June 2019, 01:41 PM   #14
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A couple of years ago a longtime dealer around here was closing for good, the owner retiring and his family not interested in continuing the business. I didn’t find out until they were almost out of watches (they also sold Breitling, Bell and Ross, TAG, and a few others). There was one small case of Rolex left, nothing but jewel encrusted twotones and PM’s. There was no sign up like on the other watches and jewelry but the clerk told me price was negotiable.
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Old 19 June 2019, 02:44 PM   #15
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No personal experience with this regarding Rolex, but bought my Lange Saxonia in a similar situation where a jewelry store was giving up its status (due to the opening of a Lange boutique in the area). Was essentially told they were very flexible on price -- they could either sell the watch (obviously above their cost basis) or return it to Lange as new inventory at cost. It was a great opportunity to get a brand new watch at a price essentially near the AD's cost.

I don't see how well that would play out with Rolex, especially in demand models. You could probably get a discount on a slow-moving piece, but I wouldn't expect any deals on SS professional line models (if they even have any left to sell)!
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Old 20 June 2019, 02:32 AM   #16
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A Rolex used dealer in the UK told me some time ago when an AD near them lost their status "quite spectacularly" - he said Rolex turned up, removed signage and paid for unsold stock to deprive them of ever selling it. Choose to believe or not as I can't remember the full details (and I know how this goes on forum....!) Lol.
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Old 20 June 2019, 02:43 AM   #17
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A Rolex used dealer in the UK told me some time ago when an AD near them lost their status "quite spectacularly" - he said Rolex turned up, removed signage and paid for unsold stock to deprive them of ever selling it. Choose to believe or not as I can't remember the full details (and I know how this goes on forum....!) Lol.
Interesting...could have been due to unAD like conduct
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Old 20 June 2019, 02:47 AM   #18
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My AD lost status and then had a big Rolex sale (before the dark times lol)

It was a nightmare for me as they were awesome with me and I’ve never found another AD like them and lost all my history so to speak :(
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Old 20 June 2019, 02:47 AM   #19
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How is Rolex not starting to be embarrassed by this nonsense.

I'd rather they show something in the case, then say you cant have it versus nothing in the case.

At least you could try it on then.

Poor customer service imho.

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Old 20 June 2019, 02:57 AM   #20
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I have never seen an AD loose status. I have seen a guy in the dessert trying to find water, however.
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Old 20 June 2019, 03:14 AM   #21
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A Rolex used dealer in the UK told me some time ago when an AD near them lost their status "quite spectacularly" - he said Rolex turned up, removed signage and paid for unsold stock to deprive them of ever selling it. Choose to believe or not as I can't remember the full details (and I know how this goes on forum....!) Lol.
You do know that under UK Law Rolex couldn’t just turn up and do that?

The worst they could do is obtain a a Court order compelling the AD to remove the signage by a date and possibly require the return of stock for cost

I’m in the non believer camp on that one
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Old 20 June 2019, 03:15 AM   #22
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A Rolex used dealer in the UK told me some time ago when an AD near them lost their status "quite spectacularly" - he said Rolex turned up, removed signage and paid for unsold stock to deprive them of ever selling it. Choose to believe or not as I can't remember the full details (and I know how this goes on forum....!) Lol.
Yeah in a few years your story might get repeated by many and morph into something Tom Clancy-like:

"on that fateful day, two dozens of Rolex black ops operators rappelled from 4 black helicopters hovering overhead and quickly surrounded the tiny shop. Dressed in full tactical gear and black balaclava, the operators gained entry into the shop, secured the shop personnel, and proceeded to dismantle and confiscate all things Rolex related in the shop; signage, paraphernalia, and Rolex watches.

Once the operators completed the operation they evacuated the premises, leaving only a brown paper pouch on the counter. Inside the pouch, the shop owner found cash in an equivalent amount of the MSRP for all the Rolex watches being confiscated, and a note. The note says: 'If you go public with this, we will be back.'"
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Old 20 June 2019, 03:15 AM   #23
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Interesting...could have been due to unAD like conduct
Also quite impossible
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Old 20 June 2019, 03:25 AM   #24
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How is Rolex not starting to be embarrassed by this nonsense.

I'd rather they show something in the case, then say you cant have it versus nothing in the case.

At least you could try it on then.

Poor customer service imho.

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Old 20 June 2019, 03:39 AM   #25
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As far as I recall from discussions in the past with colleagues that run ADs, the distribution contract between an AD and Rolex includes a clause detailing the return of stock at cost price in the event the contract is terminated.
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Old 20 June 2019, 04:00 AM   #26
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As far as I recall from discussions in the past with colleagues that run ADs, the distribution contract between an AD and Rolex includes a clause detailing the return of stock at cost price in the event the contract is terminated.
Thanks for that!
I will get a name from him next time I see him, but would not post it here anyway.
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Old 20 June 2019, 04:12 AM   #27
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As far as I recall from discussions in the past with colleagues that run ADs, the distribution contract between an AD and Rolex includes a clause detailing the return of stock at cost price in the event the contract is terminated.
My local AD lost status a few months ago. They had a clearance sale. All Rolex watches were 25% off. Of course, all they had were datejusts and one 116619LB.
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Old 20 June 2019, 04:13 AM   #28
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You do know that under UK Law Rolex couldn’t just turn up and do that?

The worst they could do is obtain a a Court order compelling the AD to remove the signage by a date and possibly require the return of stock for cost

I’m in the non believer camp on that one
Good for you, honestly I don't post Sh*t posts/comments and do state what I know or firmly believe to be the truth, but really I it seems almost better to say nothing on here.
The contract they entered into with the jolly green giant probably has some pretty well thought out clauses and agreements.
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Old 20 June 2019, 04:20 AM   #29
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My local AD lost status a few months ago. They had a clearance sale. All Rolex watches were 25% off. Of course, all they had were datejusts and one 116619LB.
116619LB at 25% aint too bad!
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Old 20 June 2019, 04:56 AM   #30
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Think I know which shop you're talking about in Nashville... I've noticed their Rolex section is mostly empty... AP is doing the same thing with their AD's around the world... it's unfortunate.
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