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Pollybampton · 26 August 2019, 09:19 PM

Hi Folks,
My first post. I just joined this morning. Thanks for having me.
I've had this watch from new. Got it from a dealership around 1999/2000.
I thought it had a champagne dial, but as time has passed, I've found out it was a silver dial originally and apparently it's rust!
I always liked watches but could never justify the expense. This piece came as payment for a promo shoot undertaken for the dealer.
Recently, I figured I'd buy a couple of watches I could leave for my sons. Had no idea about waiting lists etc, and I refuse to pay double for 2nd hand pieces. Nothing against those that do, it's your money so be my guest.
Anyways, my dealer has a Sub Date for me if I want it so, do I trade it, do I keep it, do folk like this kind of thing or is it a rusty watch in need of a new face?
I also have a white gold cellini that I love, but it's just too small for me. I think it will suit my wife, who gave it to me on my 50th, so won't be trading that.
Thanks for advice in advance.
Pollybampton

padi56 · 26 August 2019, 10:31 PM

Brass cannot rust and thats what the dial is made from, the paint on the dial could have water damage or just a paint pigment problem.

SearChart · 26 August 2019, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Brass cannot rust and thats what the dial is made from, the paint on the dial could have water damage or just a paint pigment problem.

Correct, this isn't rust it is just patina of the dial paint from moisture inside the case.
I think it actually looks pretty nice

Nikrnic · 26 August 2019, 11:01 PM

It's got character. I like it.

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bondtoys · 26 August 2019, 11:03 PM

I wonder how the movement looks like....

Pollybampton · 26 August 2019, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bondtoys

I wonder how the movement looks like....

I think the movement should be fine, as the watch has been serviced and had the glass replaced well after the face changed colour.

Pollybampton · 26 August 2019, 11:52 PM

Thanks for the info folks, and also the compliments.
64,000 dollar question though. Will it affect the value, compared to a watch with a perfect face?
Asking so that I’m not taken in by a salesman trying to pay as little as possible for it.

zewill · 26 August 2019, 11:54 PM

Wow, that 'dealer' was very nice to 'pay' you with a model that had an issue...

Still, doesn't look bad! Maybe bring it in for a service? After 20 years it could be worth it, and indeed, I would also like a picture of the movement...

finestdealer · 26 August 2019, 11:57 PM

Wow looks good

Zakalwe · 27 August 2019, 12:02 AM

Am I the only one who thinks the OP missed a trick with the thread title?

Daterust, surely?

Pollybampton · 27 August 2019, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Zakalwe

Am I the only one who thinks the OP missed a trick with the thread title?

Daterust, surely?

First post. Wasn’t sure if it would go down well. Played it straight.

Pollybampton · 27 August 2019, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by zewill

Wow, that 'dealer' was very nice to 'pay' you with a model that had an issue...

Still, doesn't look bad! Maybe bring it in for a service? After 20 years it could be worth it, and indeed, I would also like a picture of the movement...

Well, it had no issue when it was received...
It happened gradually over time, and when it went for it’s first service, the discolouration was so slight, i thought that was the colour of it, and called it champagne. Years later when it went in for a second service, i was informed that it wasn’t champagne, and the discolouration was slightly more pronounced. The glass had a tiny chip on the surface so that may have been the cause. Got a new glass. Pretty sure if anything else was wrong, Rolex would have metioned it. They wouldn’t service it without me agreeing to replace the glass.

GradyPhilpott · 27 August 2019, 01:58 AM

Keep the watch and leave it as is at least until the next service.

Some people will kill for a watch with patina of most any kind and certain kinds of patina will increase the value exponentially.

Check out the Explorer II watches with the cream dials. Those started out as white dials and turned color over time. They're a very sought after variety of an otherwise under-appreciated reference.

abozz · 27 August 2019, 02:14 AM

Patina... only check the seals are ok and keep your beautiful DJ is my opinion.

Enviado desde mi SM-G975F mediante Tapatalk

locutus49 · 27 August 2019, 02:19 AM

I think it looks cools. Will it affect the value? Who knows - some will like it some won't. But if it runs fine you should be OK.

csaltphoto · 27 August 2019, 02:46 AM

I think it adds character. Love those machine turned bezels too. Rolex doesn't do them anymore.

Mr.Rolex1 · 27 August 2019, 04:31 AM

I like it

Pollybampton · 27 August 2019, 04:47 AM

Thanks folks for the help and nice comments about the patina. You’ve made me think twice about trading.

26 August 2019, 09:19 PM	#1
Pollybampton "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: UK Posts: 8	Datejust rust? Hi Folks, My first post. I just joined this morning. Thanks for having me. I've had this watch from new. Got it from a dealership around 1999/2000. I thought it had a champagne dial, but as time has passed, I've found out it was a silver dial originally and apparently it's rust! I always liked watches but could never justify the expense. This piece came as payment for a promo shoot undertaken for the dealer. Recently, I figured I'd buy a couple of watches I could leave for my sons. Had no idea about waiting lists etc, and I refuse to pay double for 2nd hand pieces. Nothing against those that do, it's your money so be my guest. Anyways, my dealer has a Sub Date for me if I want it so, do I trade it, do I keep it, do folk like this kind of thing or is it a rusty watch in need of a new face? I also have a white gold cellini that I love, but it's just too small for me. I think it will suit my wife, who gave it to me on my 50th, so won't be trading that. Thanks for advice in advance. Pollybampton Attached Images

26 August 2019, 10:31 PM	#2
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27 August 2019, 12:02 AM	#10
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27 August 2019, 01:58 AM	#13
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,460	Keep the watch and leave it as is at least until the next service. Some people will kill for a watch with patina of most any kind and certain kinds of patina will increase the value exponentially. Check out the Explorer II watches with the cream dials. Those started out as white dials and turned color over time. They're a very sought after variety of an otherwise under-appreciated reference. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

26 August 2019, 11:01 PM	#4
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	It's got character. I like it. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

26 August 2019, 11:03 PM	#5
bondtoys "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: World Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,733	I wonder how the movement looks like....

26 August 2019, 11:52 PM	#7
Pollybampton "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: UK Posts: 8	Thanks for the info folks, and also the compliments. 64,000 dollar question though. Will it affect the value, compared to a watch with a perfect face? Asking so that I’m not taken in by a salesman trying to pay as little as possible for it.

26 August 2019, 11:54 PM	#8
zewill "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montréal Posts: 540	Wow, that 'dealer' was very nice to 'pay' you with a model that had an issue... Still, doesn't look bad! Maybe bring it in for a service? After 20 years it could be worth it, and indeed, I would also like a picture of the movement...

26 August 2019, 11:57 PM	#9
finestdealer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Arizona Posts: 89	Wow looks good

27 August 2019, 02:14 AM	#14
abozz "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In my home. Watch: 116660, 126600 Posts: 2,905	Patina... only check the seals are ok and keep your beautiful DJ is my opinion. Enviado desde mi SM-G975F mediante Tapatalk

27 August 2019, 02:19 AM	#15
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	I think it looks cools. Will it affect the value? Who knows - some will like it some won't. But if it runs fine you should be OK.

27 August 2019, 02:46 AM	#16
csaltphoto "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: US Watch: sub Posts: 2,429	I think it adds character. Love those machine turned bezels too. Rolex doesn't do them anymore.

27 August 2019, 04:31 AM	#17
Mr.Rolex1 Banned Join Date: Apr 2019 Real Name: Mike Location: San Diego, CA Watch: Submariner Posts: 1,197	I like it

27 August 2019, 04:47 AM	#18
Pollybampton "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: UK Posts: 8	Thanks folks for the help and nice comments about the patina. You’ve made me think twice about trading.

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