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SearChart · 5 October 2019, 03:22 PM

Hi TRF,

I'm currently servicing a 116509 and would like to take you along with some pictures

This is just a regular service, no out of the ordinary parts needed replacing. The seconds gear and chronograph wheel were still of the 'old style' and need to be replaced for the updated version.
The driving wheel for ratchet is worn to shreds... This transfers the energy from the automatic module into the mainspring (casually explained).

SearChart · 5 October 2019, 03:23 PM

More pics to follow soon

Yoda_Eating_Pizza · 8 October 2019, 09:05 AM

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When I see this, I'm thinking, don't sneeze! Don't sneeze!

Thank you for sharing this Bas. This wizardry underscores why I love mechanical watches so much.

Indeed you are powerful, as the emperor has foreseen.

akilis · 9 October 2019, 07:27 PM

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More pics to follow soon

looks no different inside and out than SS model. lol ... just kidding

RJRJRJ · 5 October 2019, 03:46 PM

More!

Fire bloke · 5 October 2019, 03:51 PM

Love these threads

ratty · 5 October 2019, 04:23 PM

I enjoy these threads.

Just had the exact same model serviced in the UK.

GolfPunk · 9 October 2019, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ratty

I enjoy these threads.

Just had the exact same model serviced in the UK.

Mine has just gone in for a service, could you show me a before and after picture please?

ratty · 15 October 2019, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GolfPunk

Mine has just gone in for a service, could you show me a before and after picture please?

I didn’t take any photos.

It had to be serviced because a pusher broke off. The watch was not that worn before hand and it looks like new now. With hindsight, I think I preferred it without the centre links being re polished, I wish I had the nerve to have the bracelet brushed. The centre of the clasp had LOTS of small scratches which dulled it down and I preferred it like that.

ratty · 5 October 2019, 04:26 PM

By the way, is there any chance that you can point out the pin / shaft which the pushers are connected to please? One of these has snapped twice in my watches resulting in a pusher coming off. I’m guessing that they are the short pins in the photo of the pushers in the bezel?

Thanks

SearChart · 5 October 2019, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ratty

By the way, is there any chance that you can point out the pin / shaft which the pushers are connected to please? One of these has snapped twice in my watches resulting in a pusher coming off. I’m guessing that they are the short pins in the photo of the pushers in the bezel?

Thanks

That would be the pusher screw, it happens... Unlucky that it happened twice to you!!

ratty · 6 October 2019, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

That would be the pusher screw, it happens... Unlucky that it happened twice to you!!

Thanks Bas

They both appear to have failed at the base of the threaded section which, looking at the photo, looks like the thinnest point.

Oh well !

ratty · 16 February 2020, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

That would be the pusher screw, it happens... Unlucky that it happened twice to you!!

Hi Bas

I hope you don’t mind another question about this?

Are pusher screws in gold watches made of the same material as those in steel watches? I’m thinking about the relationship of these pins to different crown materials. Are SS pins used with SS crowns and gold pins used with gold crowns?

Thanks again

SearChart · 16 February 2020, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ratty

Hi Bas

I hope you don’t mind another question about this?

Are pusher screws in gold watches made of the same material as those in steel watches? I’m thinking about the relationship of these pins to different crown materials. Are SS pins used with SS crowns and gold pins used with gold crowns?

Thanks again

Yes, stainless pushers with stainless screws, gold with gold.
Platinum watch uses gold screws as well. (Bracelet screws & tubes are wg on the platona as well)

ratty · 16 February 2020, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

Yes, stainless pushers with stainless screws, gold with gold.
Platinum watch uses gold screws as well. (Bracelet screws & tubes are wg on the platona as well)

Thanks very much for this.

This might explain why the pushers have come off two gold watches but not off any steel ones. The SS screws can probably take more of an impact than the gold ones. Thanks for the information.

Yet another question if I may?

Is there really any mechanical problem with letting the chrono mechanism on a Daytona run all of the time, and if so, are there any differences as far as this is concerned between a 16520 movement and a 116520 movement?

Thanks again.

kieselguhr · 5 October 2019, 04:26 PM

Thanks for sharing Bas! Great pictures!
Would you happen to know the history behind the watch such as last service history, was it a daily wear or part of a collection, etc.

Rolex Essex · 5 October 2019, 04:36 PM

Bas
Is the case going to be polished?
If so I’m want to see how you do the bezel without removing the tachymeter off.

swatty · 5 October 2019, 05:24 PM

Thanks for sharing Bas

Love these threads

SearChart · 5 October 2019, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kieselguhr

Thanks for sharing Bas! Great pictures!
Would you happen to know the history behind the watch such as last service history, was it a daily wear or part of a collection, etc.

No idea about the history. I could see some screws that were slightly damaged, so it's been serviced before.

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Bas
Is the case going to be polished?
If so I’m want to see how you do the bezel without removing the tachymeter off.

Yes it'll be polished, but the bezel only lightly on the lapping machine.

returntorolex · 5 October 2019, 06:40 PM

Looks like fun! Thank you for sharing

Golf&Watches · 5 October 2019, 05:33 PM

Thank you for documenting this, truly appreciated.

jimcameron · 5 October 2019, 06:45 PM

As always, fantastic contribution to TRF, thanks Bas

Swaye · 5 October 2019, 08:49 PM

Love these threads! They always remind me why service is so expensive.

joli160 · 5 October 2019, 08:52 PM

Nice thread, thanks for sharing your expertise

SearChart · 5 October 2019, 09:09 PM

'Playless' gears, Rolex top notch engineering at its finest.

(Please ignore the small dust spec in the second picture, it didn't make it into the movement, I promise

)

tadbart · 5 October 2019, 09:47 PM

Which part holds the magic smoke? It's them little purple dots, isn't it?

rod727 · 5 October 2019, 09:52 PM

I always find myself mesmerized when I see these threads. It’s amazing the amount of skill required and as always I’m in awe......thanks for posting

ap1 · 5 October 2019, 09:54 PM

Love it

Trailboss516 · 5 October 2019, 10:20 PM

Thank you for sharing these great picture

nick c · 5 October 2019, 10:21 PM

Very nice 👍

5 October 2019, 04:26 PM	#10
ratty "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Graham Location: UK Watch: Daytonas and Subs Posts: 2,810	By the way, is there any chance that you can point out the pin / shaft which the pushers are connected to please? One of these has snapped twice in my watches resulting in a pusher coming off. I’m guessing that they are the short pins in the photo of the pushers in the bezel? Thanks Last edited by ratty; 5 October 2019 at 04:29 PM.. Reason: Spellling

5 October 2019, 08:49 PM	#23
Swaye "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: USA Watch: What I am wearing. Posts: 1,879	Love these threads! They always remind me why service is so expensive. __________________ Rolex │ H. Moser │ F.P. Journe │ Audemars Piquet │ Patek Philippe _______________________________ "I'm not playing hard to get, I'm playing hard to want."

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5 October 2019, 03:51 PM	#6
Fire bloke Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 329	Love these threads

5 October 2019, 04:23 PM	#7
ratty "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Graham Location: UK Watch: Daytonas and Subs Posts: 2,810	I enjoy these threads. Just had the exact same model serviced in the UK.

5 October 2019, 04:26 PM	#16
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,623	Thanks for sharing Bas! Great pictures! Would you happen to know the history behind the watch such as last service history, was it a daily wear or part of a collection, etc.

5 October 2019, 04:36 PM	#17
Rolex Essex "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Colchester, UK Watch: Daytona, DJ & Sub Posts: 1,612	Bas Is the case going to be polished? If so I’m want to see how you do the bezel without removing the tachymeter off.

5 October 2019, 05:24 PM	#18
swatty 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,415	Thanks for sharing Bas Love these threads

5 October 2019, 06:40 PM	#20
returntorolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: Atlanta Watch: Jackie Stewart DD Posts: 5,661	Looks like fun! Thank you for sharing

5 October 2019, 05:33 PM	#21
Golf&Watches "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Global Watch: 116719 Posts: 482	Thank you for documenting this, truly appreciated.

5 October 2019, 06:45 PM	#22
jimcameron "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ByDawns Earlylite Watch: 16800 Posts: 3,580	As always, fantastic contribution to TRF, thanks Bas

5 October 2019, 09:47 PM	#26
tadbart "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Real Name: Ken Location: Snowbirdville Watch: 14060 Posts: 301	Which part holds the magic smoke? It's them little purple dots, isn't it?

5 October 2019, 09:52 PM	#27
rod727 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: U.S Watch: Submariner 116610 Posts: 659	I always find myself mesmerized when I see these threads. It’s amazing the amount of skill required and as always I’m in awe......thanks for posting

5 October 2019, 09:54 PM	#28
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,536	Love it

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Trailboss516 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: In denial Watch: It's complicated Posts: 1,620	Thank you for sharing these great picture

5 October 2019, 10:21 PM	#30
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Very nice 👍

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