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Old 18 December 2019, 03:35 AM   #1
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Icon5 How Many Have been disapointed with OysterFlex?

I'm debating going from a Bracelet Model PM Rolex to a Oysterflex and curious about other members experiences...
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Old 18 December 2019, 03:36 AM   #2
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That yacht master is nice but its too many $ for what it is imo. The oysterflex rubber is quite nice. It depends on if you will miss the bracelet or not. Only you can decide if you will...you will lose a lot of heft subtracting a PM bracelet. It will be light.
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Old 18 December 2019, 03:43 AM   #3
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Old 18 December 2019, 03:48 AM   #4
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I am very happy with my Oysterflex Daytona . Absolutely LOVE IT !
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Old 18 December 2019, 03:49 AM   #5
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Oysterflex makes PM easy to wear since the clasp is all that gets scuffed/scratched. It's very comfortable once sized correctly. Weight distribution is great since the clasp generally balances out the head of the watch.

I've had times when the bellows bother me but that's typically in the winter when my wrist shrinks a bit. Most of the time it's a non-issue and feels great.

I'd recommend it.

And don't listen to the naysayers who say a PM watch has to be on a full PM bracelet. AP, PP and RM all make watches on rubber and no one complains.
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Old 18 December 2019, 03:56 AM   #6
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my pm daytona on OF is top class, comfortable , versatile and amazing.

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Old 18 December 2019, 04:06 AM   #7
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I have and love both. I wear the OF when dressing business casual or doing activity etc. I do also love a full metal bracelet but tend to only wear them when out on town or in a suit. I do love the heft of a full metal bracelet but I find I wear the OF more often FWIW
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Old 18 December 2019, 04:07 AM   #8
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Love my OF Daytona. People can’t seem to fathom a PM on rubber, but if it’s PP or AP, it’s ok?
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Old 18 December 2019, 04:13 AM   #9
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Love my OF Daytona. People can’t seem to fathom a PM on rubber, but if it’s PP or AP, it’s ok?
The most aggressive PM/Rubber naysayers usually aren't in the market for a PM watch anyway. Nothing wrong with any PM on bracelet or on rubber IMO. They both have a place in my collection.
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Old 18 December 2019, 04:14 AM   #10
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Like OF. Fins are weird but not dealbreaker
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Old 18 December 2019, 04:18 AM   #11
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Love my OF Daytona. People can’t seem to fathom a PM on rubber, but if it’s PP or AP, it’s ok?

This is primarily a new Rolex demographic hangup from being treated like a child the last decade from the freedom to modify their own Rolex watch with different straps. Rolex absolute control keeps their customers under their thumb more than any other luxury brand.
Other brands like Panerai, AP celebrate the freedom of customizing their straps to make their watch more personal.
I still struggle over the ideology of the modern Rolex tyrannical control against my own freedom belief system. I love the Rolex watch but dislike the Rolex company.

I sooo wish Rolex would offer these rubber straps to everyone and AD's carried them in stock.
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Old 18 December 2019, 04:26 AM   #12
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Old 18 December 2019, 04:45 AM   #13
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I love rubber straps, love the rubber+PM combo, but I don't like the Oysterflex for several reasons. It can't be sized, so you need the correct length pieces. It's too stiff with the metal inserts. The fins are just annoying and push the strap off the wrist, making it look more bulky than it should. The ends of the OF aren't curved to fit the case. On the YM especially the OF pieces get rubbed by the bezel when I take the watch off, and they show scuff marks.

I had the 40mm YM on OF, and I loved the watch itself, but the Oysterflex is just needlessly overdesigned, and the result is worse than a simple rubber strap like on the Omega Seamaster, Planet Ocean, or AP ROO.
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Old 18 December 2019, 05:46 AM   #14
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With two full gold bracelets, I find the OF a welcomed change in the world of PM.
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Old 18 December 2019, 05:52 AM   #15
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With two full gold bracelets, I find the OF a welcomed change in the world of PM.
Now that is a great 3-pack!
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Old 18 December 2019, 06:01 AM   #16
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I have a 116519LN and I love it. It’s my summer watch; it’s just perfect. No disappointment by me. I have a 116619LN and it’s nice to have a option of a non gold bracelet. It’s my favorite version of the Daytona.
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Old 18 December 2019, 06:01 AM   #17
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I still struggle over the ideology of the modern Rolex tyrannical control against my own freedom belief system. I love the Rolex watch but dislike the Rolex company.
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Old 18 December 2019, 07:02 AM   #18
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Rubber is that, rubber: less durable and luxury than steel or PM. It is nice to have a rubber / leather as an alternative to a regular steel / PM band to change a watch look but in my mind the steel / PM would be preferrable


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Old 18 December 2019, 07:50 AM   #19
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How Many Have been disapointed with OysterFlex?

Rolex is very smart with their offerings and pricing. If you objectively look at the gold content of the watch and the inherent value of gold, it’s crazy to even consider an Oysterflex piece.

Combining the full gold bezel and the bracelet center links, I estimate that a TT Daytona has about the same gold content as the OF Daytona (with it’s full gold case and clasp). Price difference between FG Daytona (~$34.5k) and a TT is ~$18k; the difference between FG and OF is only $10.5k. It’s also not possible to get a ceramic bezel Daytona on full bracelet (same story on the YM).

That $7.5k delta (or one No Date Submariner) between the TT and OF is the price of cool. I love the look of the Oysterflex, but I just can’t stomach the “premium” for rubber. I also didn’t find the OF to be as comfortable on my wrist as I hoped when I tried it on (all wrists are different though). The 6 o’clock side wanted to keep itself straight, rather than curve around the wrist, which became uncomfortable after just a few minutes of having it on in the AD. And finally, the rubber can scuff and will ultimately show unsightly marks over time, which is incongruous with a fully polished head. Give me an OF on an SS Sub any day though.

I’m certainly reading way too much into this, and I know logic rarely applies when discussing luxury goods, but for me, the right price for the OF pieces would have been $19-22k. For now I’ll stick with my TT and patiently wait for the SS to arrive.


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Old 18 December 2019, 08:21 AM   #20
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Rolex is very smart with their offerings and pricing. If you objectively look at the gold content of the watch and the inherent value of gold, it’s crazy to even consider an Oysterflex piece.

Combining the full gold bezel and the bracelet center links, I estimate that a TT Daytona has about the same gold content as the OF Daytona (with it’s full gold case and clasp). Price difference between FG Daytona (~$34.5k) and a TT is ~$18k; the difference between FG and OF is only $10.5k. It’s also not possible to get a ceramic bezel Daytona on full bracelet (same story on the YM).

That $7.5k delta (or one No Date Submariner) between the TT and OF is the price of cool. I love the look of the Oysterflex, but I just can’t stomach the “premium” for rubber. I also didn’t find the OF to be as comfortable on my wrist as I hoped when I tried it on (all wrists are different though). The 6 o’clock side wanted to keep itself straight, rather than curve around the wrist, which became uncomfortable after just a few minutes of having it on in the AD. And finally, the rubber can scuff and will ultimately show unsightly marks over time, which is incongruous with a fully polished head. Give me an OF on an SS Sub any day though.

I’m certainly reading way too much into this, and I know logic rarely applies when discussing luxury goods, but for me, the right price for the OF pieces would have been $19-22k. For now I’ll stick with my TT and patiently wait for the SS to arrive.


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Beautiful TT you have there!

I believe you'll find the heavier gold case, caseback, bezel and deployment clasp exceed the TT weight on at least most Rolex offerings if not all of them. There is not more gold on your TT than a gold Daytona on oysterflex.
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Old 18 December 2019, 08:23 AM   #21
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I believe you'll find the heavier gold case, caseback, bezel and deployment clasp exceed the TT weight on at least most Rolex offerings if not all of them.


Probably true. It’d be interesting if someone were to deconstruct a couple Rolexes to do the official weight comparison.
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Old 18 December 2019, 08:27 AM   #22
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Old 18 December 2019, 08:31 AM   #23
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Probably true. It’d be interesting if someone were to deconstruct a couple Rolexes to do the official weight comparison.
Someone did not too long ago. I don't remember what model. You can probably find the post with a forum search.
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Old 18 December 2019, 08:46 AM   #24
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I put the Oysterflex on 116710LN. It looked great (with the Smarty End Links). I wore it for a few months, but eventually went back to the bracelet, and will most likely stay with the bracelet. I might never again use the Oysterflex.
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Old 18 December 2019, 09:33 AM   #25
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Probably true. It’d be interesting if someone were to deconstruct a couple Rolexes to do the official weight comparison.
My 116621 weighs about 10 grams less than my 116655. There’s no way the rubber weighs more than steel so the gold content is significantly more
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Old 18 December 2019, 09:38 AM   #26
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I have a 116519LN and believe it’s the best looking Daytona by miles. I bought it as I gave up waiting for a white SS version and have no regrets. The oysterflex is comfortable and compliments the look of the watch.
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Old 18 December 2019, 09:44 AM   #27
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1. Saying fear of the OF because it's not metal is like saying no carbon fiber on a car because it's not metal. It's a feat of engineering and a functional marvel in summer heat vs any other strap or bracelet.

2. The look itself is great because it helps make the ceramic bezels pop.

3. The price delta of 18 months ago has disspeared. It used to be maybe a 116509 used could be found for 30k and a new 116519 would set you back 27-28k, but now if it's 36k no discount vs 28k no discount, the 8k is enough to differenate price wise to not get hung up over less PM.

Pound for pound, I'm willing to save WG OF is better than Platinum as an owner of both. Better weight distribution, sits on the wrist better (assuming you fit at the wright size since it can be a quarter link off..). It is more durable in the long run due to the OF being more resistant to scratches and therefore looking "new".
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Old 18 December 2019, 09:57 AM   #28
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Love mine. But I also have other pm bracelets
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Old 18 December 2019, 10:01 AM   #29
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That yacht master is nice but its too many $ for what it is imo. The oysterflex rubber is quite nice. It depends on if you will miss the bracelet or not. Only you can decide if you will...you will lose a lot of heft subtracting a PM bracelet. It will be light.
Do you feel the Daytona is that superior complicationwise to the Yacht Master? Really? I don't see a difference.

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