Buying an undeclared watch off of Kijiji, how to show proof of purchase?

[Rolexallday]

If I buy a watch that seller didn't declare when they got from say USA or Caribbean how do I avoid any issues if I travel with it on? I have no receipt just box and papers that show its not from Canada? I bought both in Canada from these sellers that got them overseas and wore home, thanks!

[boogiebot]

Don’t travel with it would be my suggestion. And hopefully you have someone, preferably a watch maker throughly check and verify this watch for you.


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[Tools]

Nobody has ever asked me about a watch that I was wearing while traveling; why would they?

[Rolexallday]

Originally Posted by boogiebot

Don’t travel with it would be my suggestion. And hopefully you have someone, preferably a watch maker throughly check and verify this watch for you.


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Why can't I travel with ti? And it's authenticate I know forsure

[AshCashEmAll]

Originally Posted by boogiebot

Don’t travel with it would be my suggestion. And hopefully you have someone, preferably a watch maker throughly check and verify this watch for you.


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There are ADs in the carribeans and other countries I dont think OP was asking about authenticity....

[AshCashEmAll]

If the watch is worn and you arent traveling with a brand new Rolex box then there is no reason for anyone to question you. Realistically, a picture of you with the watch prior to traveling should be enough if it still isnt take a picture of the warranty card and that should work also.

[Rolexallday]

Ok but if they determine the original buyer didn't pay duties (not sure how they would know) then could they try to make me pay or try to track down guy I bought it off?

[bezler]

Originally Posted by Tools

Nobody has ever asked me about a watch that I was wearing while traveling; why would they?

Sometimes they will ask if it looks brand new. Congrats on never having experienced an issue.

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[exador]

You're overthinking this. If the watch looks brand new and you happened to be asked by Customs (unlikely) just show them a statement that proves you purchased the watch prior to travelling.

[Rolexallday]

Originally Posted by exador

You're overthinking this. If the watch looks brand new and you happened to be asked by Customs (unlikely) just show them a statement that proves you purchased the watch prior to travelling.

And the proof would be ?

[scombs263]

Get insurance, wear it, no one will ask you where you got it from, dont travel with box and accessories. Should be fine.

[Alcan]

Let me see if I have this straight. You purchased an item which was not obtained legally (taxes and duty were circumvented) and you want to know whether you can tempt fate bringing it into Canada a second time.

Is that about it?

[NachoNeal]

Originally Posted by exador

You're overthinking this. If the watch looks brand new and you happened to be asked by Customs (unlikely) just show them a statement that proves you purchased the watch prior to travelling.

correct.

[exador]

Originally Posted by Rolexallday

And the proof would be ?

Receipt from seller, bank/PayPal statement, Kijiji ad etc.

Or did you pay cash?

[ArtNouveau]

Canada must me the worst place in the world to re-enter as a citizen from all the threads we have here about it. I have never come into the US with a new watch or been questioned about one I’m wearing. I have bought and had shipped in 10 or so new watches from overseas. All arrived with the proper declarations and only one time was I charged duties.

[FHFinster]

I’m so confused. Unsubscribe.


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[Rolexallday]

Originally Posted by Alcan

Let me see if I have this straight. You purchased an item which was not obtained legally (taxes and duty were circumvented) and you want to know whether you can tempt fate bringing it into Canada a second time.

Is that about it?

Ya and your point is? I didn't do anything wrong so why would I care lol

[exador]

Originally Posted by Rolexallday

I didn't do anything wrong so why would I care lol

You seem to care enough to post a message on an Internet forum.

Mods, please close this pointless thread

[tng11]

Originally Posted by Tools

Nobody has ever asked me about a watch that I was wearing while traveling; why would they?

Canada Customs can be a pain about this. Plenty of people I know have been pulled aside and questioned about high value items (e.g. electronics, watches, jewellery) and if you can't prove you had it before you left the country, or if taxes were paid, they'll seize it, fine you and then search you every time you re-enter the country. Making sure residents have paid their taxes apparently is a very high priority.

[mandm2525]

I can't help you, unless your government has a similar form from Customs. In the USA we can take our valuables to a custom office and declare they are ours before traveling. I have used these forms for firearms but also for binoculars, so I know they would be ok for watches, jewelry etc.

The form is CBP form 4457. CBP stands for Custom and Border Protection. Hope your country has similar

[cuibono]

Originally Posted by Rolexallday

If I buy a watch that seller didn't declare when they got from say USA or Caribbean how do I avoid any issues if I travel with it on? I have no receipt just box and papers that show its not from Canada? I bought both in Canada from these sellers that got them overseas and wore home, thanks!

Get CBSA to document its existence in Canada prior to leaving.


"A border services officer will examine and identify the goods prior to exportation. The articles will be documented on a wallet-sized card called Form BSF407 (formerly Y38), Identification of Articles for Temporary Exportation. The individual will then be asked to sign the declaration on the front of Form BSF407, certifying that the goods listed were, to the best of his or her knowledge, either produced in Canada or lawfully imported into Canada. Individuals are not required to produce sales receipts or other proof of lawful purchase or importation when issuing Form BSF407."


Source: https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publicat...2-6-5-eng.html

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[Brny11]

Originally Posted by Rolexallday

Ok but if they determine the original buyer didn't pay duties (not sure how they would know) then could they try to make me pay or try to track down guy I bought it off?

They won’t dig that deep... 99% not claiming a watch works out. If it’s yours, no boxin your bag, and it’s on your wrist your good. I never take proof of purchase when I travel international.

[Roli4life]

All I know is if they are that anal, I would move to a less oppressive environment. Your a citizen not a cash cow.

[Chiboy]

After reading some threads here, I have a few pictures on my phone of my watch warranty card as well as pics of the watch on my wrist in a few different locations. But I’ve never been asked about it.

[77T]

I have never been asked back and forth to/from Canada, Mexico, Caribbean...don’t think you will either.

Now if you travel with multiple watches you might be improving your chance of being asked a question or two as you cross any customs portal.

Just imagine the number of ways you might have been given gifts and then have to explain it to customs. For example, bracelets, rings, necklaces and such.


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[Hogtown Fatty]

sorry to hijack, but on the subject of high-end kijiji watch sales, i've always wondered how high a success rate there is selling on there and how the transactions are actually made (where to meet, how to get paid, etc.). i've thought about listing watches on there before, but there's just always that wild west/shady aspect, never know what can go down- have read a couple horror stories on this very forum on this. do folks actually sell rolexes on there or are they just a bunch of wtb ads from oliver jewellers?

[Rolexallday]

Originally Posted by 77T

I have never been asked back and forth to/from Canada, Mexico, Caribbean...don’t think you will either.

Now if you travel with multiple watches you might be improving your chance of being asked a question or two as you cross any customs portal.

Just imagine the number of ways you might have been given gifts and then have to explain it to customs. For example, bracelets, rings, necklaces and such.

Ya makes sense thanks! I think declaring before going is probably best or a picture of an appraisal I would get before

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Ya makes sense thanks! I think declaring before going is probably best or a picture of an appraisal I would get before

[Rolexallday]

Originally Posted by Hogtown Fatty

sorry to hijack, but on the subject of high-end kijiji watch sales, i've always wondered how high a success rate there is selling on there and how the transactions are actually made (where to meet, how to get paid, etc.). i've thought about listing watches on there before, but there's just always that wild west/shady aspect, never know what can go down- have read a couple horror stories on this very forum on this. do folks actually sell rolexes on there or are they just a bunch of wtb ads from oliver jewellers?

I think a lot of people do it with success? I bought 3 in total off Kijiji all were good interactions, we met at AD first time and they authenticated on the spot,,,,this was 8 years ago they no longer offer this on spot you have to send it in,,,,the last 2 I got this week and went to a reseller who authenticated them both, also gotta see if seller looks shady both I dealt with were upfront and open etc

[diharv]

Originally Posted by Rolexallday

Ok but if they determine the original buyer didn't pay duties (not sure how they would know) then could they try to make me pay or try to track down guy I bought it off?

Geez, you bought the thing in Canada, end of story. What the previous owner did or did not do is not your problem. Wear long sleeves or a jacket and act normal. "And where did the guy you bought it off of get it ?" asked no border agent ever.

[danyvw]

Originally Posted by Chiboy

After reading some threads here, I have a few pictures on my phone of my watch warranty card as well as pics of the watch on my wrist in a few different locations. But I’ve never been asked about it.

That's not a bad idea.

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