I think I was scammed

[Bethesda13]

I have been searching for my dream watch the Rolex Sub No date, saw a post by “Skydwella” and contacted him at his email. His name is reportedly Francis Osuna. We talked over everything and he even sent me some references where he had good feedback. I paid $8k by wire (sent to someone’s account named Maria Osuna located in Pomona, California) and we agreed to Fedex overnight delivery. He was not the quickest to respond but he eventually told me he sent it by some no name courier called Next Global Delivery. Going to their website looks like it is not very legit. That was over 24 hrs ago and I still have not received the watch. He is also not responding to my texts or phone call.

Any suggestions on what I should do next? I am so angry right now.

[Tools]

If you believe that you have been the victim of a crime, you need to report it to the proper authorities.

You should contact your bank and attempt to retrieve your funds.

[GGGMT]

1. Contact bank ASAP
2. Call police and report it.
3. Buy from an AD (or a trusted seller here)


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[henrylee]

8k for a sky dweller? I think you have been scammed

[Bethesda13]

It was $8k for a Sub no date

[Bethesda13]

“Skydwella” post ad is still up as a reference

[freefly]

Sorry to hear that OP. If only you would've done a quick search here first (hindsight being 20/20):

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=700260

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by freefly

Sorry to hear that OP. If only you would've done a quick search here first (hindsight being 20/20):

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=700260

Man, this scammer is doing great!


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[Bethesda13]

I don’t understand why he hasn’t been banned here yet.

[interestedwatcher]

This is crap - I'm sorry to hear.

[77T]

Sad thing, and a repeat performance for the Osana jackwagons.

Hope your quest results in an arrest and refund.


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[freefly]

Originally Posted by Bethesda13

I don’t understand why he hasn’t been banned here yet.

He was/is.

[Where]

Originally Posted by freefly

He was/is.

Sale was posted April 6

[Bethesda13]

An update, I have filed a Police report, filed a report with the FBI IC3 Center and contacted my bank to request a wire transfer recall. Thanks for your help guys.

[Tools]

Hope it works out for you. Frequently we can't find these guys until we have a back-story to cross reference with.

[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by freefly

Sorry to hear that OP. If only you would've done a quick search here first (hindsight being 20/20):

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=700260

Yeah, I thought the name sounded awfully familiar and same location. Sad but people need to do a LOT more background legwork before forking over unsecured funds.

OP I would be on the phone tout suite to the fraud depts of both banks in the hope you can freeze the transfer.

Check if the details are the same. Wells Fargo have failed if these scammers are still active

Maria Osuna
in Pomona, CA (California)
Age 43


Current Address

2579 Valley Blvd
Pomona, CA 91768-2715

(909) 595-3987 - landline

(909) 272-7543 - wireless

(909) 578-3116 - wireless

(909) 869-5127 - landline

(909) 595-8732 - landline

[Bethesda13]

Yep those are the same details. I did not due my diligent legwork prior due to my naivete and excitement to get the watch. Unfortunately this will probably be my last time trying to purchase from a forum and will stick to AD’s and the grey market.

[barneb10]

OP, I'm sorry to hear this. I hope it works out. As others have mentioned: contact your bank, and contact law enforcement.

Good luck.

[briboxer]

go to www.ic3.gov.
File a complaint. It is considered a federal offense. Secret Service territory. Wire fraud.
best of luck.

[Humble michael]

So sorry the most important thing you could have done was use AMX or another card for payt. Before I get a deluge of posts telling me “as a seller I only accept wires” simple I am not a buyer for you. You must protect yourself, of course research the seller but still NO WIRE Transfers. Hope someone who reads this will take heed.

[214270Explorer]

For the best safety, wire transfer should only be used for a purchase via a WELL-KNOWN, LONG-ESTABLISHED brick and mortar business. Such as DAVIDSW, TAKUYA, etc.

Anything else is "likely" going to go badly for you.

I would not even do a wire transfer with a TRF-established seller, BUT that is just my personal decision about making payments. If they cannot take a card or a check and hold the watch until the payment clears and deposits into their account, then I have no use to do business with them.

Payment safety is a really huge issue in today's world.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by freefly

Sorry to hear that OP. If only you would've done a quick search here first (hindsight being 20/20):

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=700260

Yep
Its still for sale here:
https://www.mywatchmart.com/users/Skydwella/

[CorradoBrit]

Banned 'Skydwella'. Classic sleeper account posting history. Dormant for 18 months and then a flurry of bs posts to boost post count in 2020

[freefly]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Yep
Its still for sale here:
https://www.mywatchmart.com/users/Skydwella/

Just to clarify, Mywatchmart is just an aggregator site (that listing just reverts back to the original scammer listing here on TRF, which has been removed).

However, if the OP wants to save/access the original ad info/verbiage/pics, they do have it still accessible/cached here:

https://www.mywatchmart.com/listing/...ent-condition/

Also, it looks like the original scam listing used stolen pictures from an older TRF listing here:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=709255

[dummykid]

I almost bought that watch from the seller before local AD contacted me for stock availability. It looks like "Skydwella" sold another watch here could be a fake feedback.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by freefly

Also, it looks like the original scam listing used stolen pictures from an older TRF listing here:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=709255

Impressive great research. (bow)

I tried reverse search but did not find that - KUDOS to you

[Nunez. Jacob]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Yeah, I thought the name sounded awfully familiar and same location. Sad but people need to do a LOT more background legwork before forking over unsecured funds.

OP I would be on the phone tout suite to the fraud depts of both banks in the hope you can freeze the transfer.

Check if the details are the same. Wells Fargo have failed if these scammers are still active

Maria Osuna
in Pomona, CA (California)
Age 43


Current Address

2579 Valley Blvd
Pomona, CA 91768-2715

(909) 595-3987 - landline

(909) 272-7543 - wireless

(909) 578-3116 - wireless

(909) 869-5127 - landline

(909) 595-8732 - landline

im ten minutes away from that place

[Guinsburg]

Wells Fargo Online® Services Fraud
Suspicious or unauthorized activity with a Wells Fargo service:

Bill Pay, Zelle®, Online Transfers, Online Profile Changes, and Online Wires

1-866-867-5568

[vinlesposito]

OP I’m currentlY dealing with a similar situation. I was able to open a case with my bank (BoA) to investigate the wire, unfortunately it was outside of the window of time to recall. Checking in today the recipients bank has opened a case and are trying to obtain the funds. A lot of times these scammers receive the wire and either withdraw or transfer to another account that they have. My bank is currently working to try to recover the funds from one of the linked accounts as the scammers bank recognized the fraudulent activity.

I also filed an IC3 claim but never heard from anyone.

[jeffrx]

That really sucks. Did you manage to get anywhere with this?